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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Jul 16, 2021 8:16:35 GMT -5
I'm feeling that upgrade anxiety again and don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing. For a while now, I've been coasting with decently leveled stuff, my mechs were all at max EN and I was saving credits easily. But, yesterday, I blew it all with the SB16, and one of today's task was to upgrade something 3 times...DOH! Luckily, I still had a bunch of gold crates and I opened them for the credits and upgraded my AC4 3 times. Whew. But, what about tomorrow?? On the other hand, I feel like I have growth potential again. The game hasn't changed drastically for me. My mechs still have the same power as before. I just have room to grow again and I feel that old "twitch" of "when will I be able to run that?" I'm in no rush to level up my Shadow even though it's my fave mech. But, I do want to try dual RG16 and dual SB16. Side note, SB12/SB16 is pretty fun so far. The kill rate is a bit faster than with dual SB12, and the freeze rate is faster too. That means that when I get dual SB16, it'll be a force to be reckoned with. Also, used it to do that Get 10 Assists task in like one game. I'm debating not upgrading anything until day 6/7 on the event in case there are more upgrade X times later. You can complete previous day tasks in later days and as Red said there is a 48hr extension after day 7. but.. yes.. want to buy twitch is real because I also pushed the panther to R6.4 yesterday which I guess should have waited .. but I wanted to hit the button...
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 16, 2021 8:17:22 GMT -5
I only need 2 mechs and I have both MD and Zephyr at R5. MD with 16EN and Zep with 18EN. They are playable and when/if I get the Arachnos, I'll definitely be taking it out for a spin.
I think over all, I don't see this as a bad thing for MA. MA the was it was was getting a bit stagnant. I think I'm starting to see how some folks were feeling in War Robots just before the dash era. They had maxed hangars and nothing else to do with their gear. Plarium can to create room for growth. As long as they stop here in terms of power, they should be fine. There is a ton of room for growth now, especially in the 12EN and 16EN weapons and they should be able to come up with lots of variety.
New players will know to focus on those two weapon EN categories but will still have to get and upgrade the lower end stuff just to get there. Fingers crossed that the game doesn't go downhill from here. And if it does, let it be a slow ride and let there be a new game on the horizon that I can jump to when the end comes!
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Post by OU812? on Jul 16, 2021 8:45:24 GMT -5
I’ve just finished my daily objectives and am wondering how I’m going to finish the weekly? One weekly objective is to finish 30 Daly objectives, but we get 7 a day and there’s two days left. That leaves me two short. Anyone else notice this?
Also, they’ve got to change the voices. Hearing “newb identified” and some of the other new phrases by that frat boy sportscaster is driving me nuts.
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Post by Old-Cat on Jul 16, 2021 8:47:53 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed there seems , at least to me, no way to know how many blue prints we have for weapons and mechs we haven’t purchased now? You're right. That's actually pretty lame. I was using that to gauge what level I could get things up to before I bought them. I may run a test it on a low level weapon. I want to see if we still have them banked so to speak. I sure hope they didn’t remove the one we haven’t used yet.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Jul 16, 2021 9:10:18 GMT -5
Thinking on the tasks for the upgrade X# isnt it overall get so many points to get the mech.. so.. you could really pick and choose which ones to do throughout the days to get X points and skip some you dont want to do...
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 16, 2021 9:21:23 GMT -5
Little spider bot is cute! Where did you get this?
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 16, 2021 9:30:00 GMT -5
You're right. That's actually pretty lame. I was using that to gauge what level I could get things up to before I bought them. I may run a test it on a low level weapon. I want to see if we still have them banked so to speak. I sure hope they didn’t remove the one we haven’t used yet. They're still there. I just bought Pulse 6 and it still had the 390-ish BP it had before the update.
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 16, 2021 9:32:29 GMT -5
Little spider bot is cute! Where did you get this? There was a clip with the patch notes iirc. They just released a video about Arachnos, link ig. Our two new voice actors are having a fake merchandising conversation during the video. Petition to have the guy rerecord his lines. He sounds fine when every word isn't being 「fluffernutter」ingn screamed to the point of being out of breath.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jul 16, 2021 9:32:29 GMT -5
Little spider bot is cute! Where did you get this? It was in the news announcement in game for sure, I saw it last night... but I don't know where they actually host it for a browser to find it.
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 16, 2021 9:47:24 GMT -5
Just curious as to why. Last time I saw, you had a pretty monster hangar. Me, I know my time in this mess is limited ⦠this smurf account is only going to get me so far before it turns into a crap-show. And I have no intentions of reviving my old account, because that one is already a crap-show, and I just donât play enough to get the resources to upgrade anything much further than it already is. At least with my current account, by playing just a few games a day, I can prolong the inevitable while itâs still mostly tolerable. But I know itâs only a matter of time. This game turned into a p2w 「dookie」show overnight. Not even greedy 「wee-wee」sonic managed to do that w/ War Robots, so I gotta tip my cap to plarium. Real 「fluffernutter」ing good job. Ever since I hit ~3200 SP or so (pre-update), I've been able to go up against the Mayer's and Manish's of this game (100% fully maxed out players), and play them to a ~50/50 win-loss record, because by then, I had 2nd copies of the core bots and highly levelled core weapons. There wasn't a drastic difference between 6.2/6.3 and 6.7. When my 2nd copies go away, I'm gonna be left w/ three maxed bots, a 5.4 zephyr, and......a bunch of unlevelled stuff. I'm not gonna be able to keep up w/ the maxed players who've been playing way longer than me who can still field five 6.7 bots, AND have the maxed weapons to fill all the EN capacities. Don't forget, going from 6.6 to 6.7 is a massive upgrade. We're talking increased EN capacity and an additional 10k+ HP. Yes, this update means I now have an increased advantage against the players out there who don't have any 6.7 stuff. But this transition to a p2w structure still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and I think I don't wanna be a competitive player if this game is gonna go full-on p2w mode. So where does that leave me? Either I quit, or become a pure casual player. No more playing tourney. Just play a few games everyday for fun. The latter route you mentioned is actually a pretty fun way to go. I am not a competitive player in the sense that I need to have the best. I just like to win. Still, I don't have to. I stopped playing the tournament on "their" terms a while ago and only play when it suits me and I have time. I don't like who I am when I play the tournament competitively. I just have fun and blow stuff up as often as I can. CPC...5v5 deathmatch...doing feats. These are the things I do for the most part. That said, I understand how hard it is to take a step back if you're used to a certain level of competitiveness and you've invested in certain things. I get what you're saying and you are justified in your feelings. I still want to see what their "compensation" is to see how that side of this major change plays out. I hope you don't quit altogether. A bad taste in the mouth sucks, but that just means you need to eat some ice cream to make it go away! (Probably not the best metaphor, but I want ice cream right now...so yeah...)
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 16, 2021 9:58:52 GMT -5
I'm feeling that upgrade anxiety again and don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing. For a while now, I've been coasting with decently leveled stuff, my mechs were all at max EN and I was saving credits easily. But, yesterday, I blew it all with the SB16, and one of today's task was to upgrade something 3 times...DOH! Luckily, I still had a bunch of gold crates and I opened them for the credits and upgraded my AC4 3 times. Whew. But, what about tomorrow?? On the other hand, I feel like I have growth potential again. The game hasn't changed drastically for me. My mechs still have the same power as before. I just have room to grow again and I feel that old "twitch" of "when will I be able to run that?" I'm in no rush to level up my Shadow even though it's my fave mech. But, I do want to try dual RG16 and dual SB16. Side note, SB12/SB16 is pretty fun so far. The kill rate is a bit faster than with dual SB12, and the freeze rate is faster too. That means that when I get dual SB16, it'll be a force to be reckoned with. Also, used it to do that Get 10 Assists task in like one game. I'm debating not upgrading anything until day 6/7 on the event in case there are more upgrade X times later. You can complete previous day tasks in later days and as Red said there is a 48hr extension after day 7. but.. yes.. want to buy twitch is real because I also pushed the panther to R6.4 yesterday which I guess should have waited .. but I wanted to hit the button... I'm going to wait on upgrade tasks too. If the 50 event potential points per day rate holds, then we aren't going to even need all those points to get the Arachnos. 50 points x 7 days is 350 points and only 300 are needed to finish the event. I don't like it (uncertainty makes me anxious), but I'm trying to save credits while I figure out exactly what I want to do for my 5th slot. I'm not sold on anything yet. The other 4 spots are golden, but I don't have resources coming out my wazzoo anymore. I know for a fact I don't have the credits to rush-upgrade 2 separate mechs to R5 like I'd want to do, especially if one of those is a Shadow. I need to be judicious. Side note: my Ares play these last couple days is making me think Ares is a very good 5th slot option. So far it's really good against AI, but I don't want to base my judgement on that alone. It's only R4.7 though and has a lot of room for improvement.
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Post by Deadeye on Jul 16, 2021 10:03:15 GMT -5
I’ve just finished my daily objectives and am wondering how I’m going to finish the weekly? One weekly objective is to finish 30 Daly objectives, but we get 7 a day and there’s two days left. That leaves me two short. Anyone else notice this? Also, they’ve got to change the voices. Hearing “newb identified” and some of the other new phrases by that frat boy sportscaster is driving me nuts. I noticed that too, but I couldn't see anywhere that said we only had until the end of the actual week to finish all 30 weekly tasks. If we only have until Sunday, then I'm going to be peeved. The first week would have been impossible due to poor release timing. If, however, we have until the end of Monday, then it's possible. Are you sure we only have the 2 more days left? I don't see a timer anywhere.
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Post by dukeofadvil on Jul 16, 2021 10:16:09 GMT -5
I’ve just finished my daily objectives and am wondering how I’m going to finish the weekly? One weekly objective is to finish 30 Daly objectives, but we get 7 a day and there’s two days left. That leaves me two short. Anyone else notice this? Also, they’ve got to change the voices. Hearing “newb identified” and some of the other new phrases by that frat boy sportscaster is driving me nuts. I noticed that too, but I couldn't see anywhere that said we only had until the end of the actual week to finish all 30 weekly tasks. If we only have until Sunday, then I'm going to be peeved. The first week would have been impossible due to poor release timing. If, however, we have until the end of Monday, then it's possible. Are you sure we only have the 2 more days left? I don't see a timer anywhere. I just thought it was me trying to math at 6:00 this morning.
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Post by punishingcossack on Jul 16, 2021 10:24:11 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed there seems , at least to me, no way to know how many blue prints we have for weapons and mechs we haven’t purchased now? You're right. That's actually pretty lame. I was using that to gauge what level I could get things up to before I bought them. it's in the top right now. totally unnecessary UX change. its old location worked perfectly fine
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 16, 2021 10:24:19 GMT -5
I’ve just finished my daily objectives and am wondering how I’m going to finish the weekly? One weekly objective is to finish 30 Daly objectives, but we get 7 a day and there’s two days left. That leaves me two short. Anyone else notice this? Also, they’ve got to change the voices. Hearing “newb identified” and some of the other new phrases by that frat boy sportscaster is driving me nuts. I noticed that too, but I couldn't see anywhere that said we only had until the end of the actual week to finish all 30 weekly tasks. If we only have until Sunday, then I'm going to be peeved. The first week would have been impossible due to poor release timing. If, however, we have until the end of Monday, then it's possible. Are you sure we only have the 2 more days left? I don't see a timer anywhere. Weekly tasks have no time limit, and only reset after all 7 tasks have been completed(probably the following day). It was mentioned in the 1.24 preview announcement and release. The minimum time to complete a full set of weekly tasks is 5 days (complete 30 daily missions, 4x7 +2).
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Post by dukeofadvil on Jul 16, 2021 10:27:32 GMT -5
Well Plarium finally admitted they tweaked Juggy shield and Aries on Discord.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 16, 2021 10:51:58 GMT -5
Just curious as to why. Last time I saw, you had a pretty monster hangar. Me, I know my time in this mess is limited ⦠this smurf account is only going to get me so far before it turns into a crap-show. And I have no intentions of reviving my old account, because that one is already a crap-show, and I just donât play enough to get the resources to upgrade anything much further than it already is. At least with my current account, by playing just a few games a day, I can prolong the inevitable while itâs still mostly tolerable. But I know itâs only a matter of time. This game turned into a p2w 「dookie」show overnight. Not even greedy 「wee-wee」sonic managed to do that w/ War Robots, so I gotta tip my cap to plarium. Real 「fluffernutter」ing good job. Ever since I hit ~3200 SP or so (pre-update), I've been able to go up against the Mayer's and Manish's of this game (100% fully maxed out players), and play them to a ~50/50 win-loss record, because by then, I had 2nd copies of the core bots and highly levelled core weapons. There wasn't a drastic difference between 6.2/6.3 and 6.7. When my 2nd copies go away, I'm gonna be left w/ three maxed bots, a 5.4 zephyr, and......a bunch of unlevelled stuff. I'm not gonna be able to keep up w/ the maxed players who've been playing way longer than me who can still field five 6.7 bots, AND have the maxed weapons to fill all the EN capacities. Don't forget, going from 6.6 to 6.7 is a massive upgrade. We're talking increased EN capacity and an additional 10k+ HP. Yes, this update means I now have an increased advantage against the players out there who don't have any 6.7 stuff. But this transition to a p2w structure still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and I think I don't wanna be a competitive player if this game is gonna go full-on p2w mode. So where does that leave me? Either I quit, or become a pure casual player. No more playing tourney. Just play a few games everyday for fun. I get ya. I’m pretty much already that casual player. I have up on trying to be competitive with my last account. I’d pay a little bit for resources to catch up, and they’d just move the goalposts. Paid a little bit more, same thing. That account went bye-bye, along with all the time and money I sunk into it - wasn’t worth the aggravation. Now I’ll play a few tourney games to get my meager few keys, if I feel like it, otherwise it’s just enough CPC to get my dailies. When even that stops being fun, that will be the end of that.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 16, 2021 11:08:22 GMT -5
You're right. That's actually pretty lame. I was using that to gauge what level I could get things up to before I bought them. it's in the top right now. totally unnecessary UX change. its old location worked perfectly fine Top right of what? I’m not seeing it anywhere. Well Plarium finally admitted they tweaked Juggy shield and Aries on Discord. Of course they did. They never nerf anything unannounced. They just never said when they’d actually announce it.
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Post by dukeofadvil on Jul 16, 2021 11:11:40 GMT -5
it's in the top right now. totally unnecessary UX change. its old location worked perfectly fine Top right of what? I’m not seeing it anywhere. Well Plarium finally admitted they tweaked Juggy shield and Aries on Discord. Of course they did. They never nerf anything unannounced. They just never said when they’d actually announce it. Sunday they are planning on telling us they changed the voice prompts.
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Post by OU812? on Jul 16, 2021 11:29:30 GMT -5
I noticed that too, but I couldn't see anywhere that said we only had until the end of the actual week to finish all 30 weekly tasks. If we only have until Sunday, then I'm going to be peeved. The first week would have been impossible due to poor release timing. If, however, we have until the end of Monday, then it's possible. Are you sure we only have the 2 more days left? I don't see a timer anywhere. Weekly tasks have no time limit, and only reset after all 7 tasks have been completed(probably the following day). It was mentioned in the 1.24 preview announcement and release. The minimum time to complete a full set of weekly tasks is 5 days (complete 30 daily missions, 4x7 +2). Ah, thanks for the clarification. Crisis averted.
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Post by punishingcossack on Jul 16, 2021 12:07:00 GMT -5
it's in the top right now. totally unnecessary UX change. its old location worked perfectly fine Top right of what? I’m not seeing it anywhere. Well Plarium finally admitted they tweaked Juggy shield and Aries on Discord. Of course they did. They never nerf anything unannounced. They just never said when they’d actually announce it. go to the regular weapon stats screen. the blueprint count is to the left of your credits balance
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Post by reconnecting on Jul 16, 2021 13:30:04 GMT -5
Ok, I've seen a ton already about the various changes. Some of them feel thought out and some of them feel random and erroneous. Let's list and discuss them here! Weirdest change I've seen so far...the Ares and Jugg shield mechanics have flipped! Ares shield (still a physical external wall shield) now does not expire and must be depleted. While the Jugg shield (still the all encompassing skin shield) expires after time. This one somehow feels like an error. Why would they want to do that? People have made choices on which bots to use because of these mechanics. I've typed out plenty of what I feel the pros and cons to both are because of these things. Now that's a bit flipped. Oh, well. I've been experimenting with my new energy levels too. Apparently, as Redfiend had postulated, there are new intermediate EN levels at R6 before getting to R6.7. My KS has 2 Carb10s on it and my Panther has the RG/Carb12 and the Guardian has the SB16/Carb12. I'm digging both right now, though I may switch the EN16 weapons around. The Panther might do better with the SB. What else you guys have? I have the SB 16 and CB 12 on Panther. Marvelously effective. I ripped through a lot of reds in cpc just now while playing with Advil. Fun build. I gave Ares both MR 8s and he is really good with the non timer shield. He took Juggs place for now. Guardian now has the other CB 12 and an MR 6 until I think of something better, maybe TL 6.
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Post by punishingcossack on Jul 16, 2021 13:43:30 GMT -5
This game turned into a p2w 「dookie」show overnight. Not even greedy 「wee-wee」sonic managed to do that w/ War Robots, so I gotta tip my cap to plarium. Real 「fluffernutter」ing good job. Ever since I hit ~3200 SP or so (pre-update), I've been able to go up against the Mayer's and Manish's of this game (100% fully maxed out players), and play them to a ~50/50 win-loss record, because by then, I had 2nd copies of the core bots and highly levelled core weapons. There wasn't a drastic difference between 6.2/6.3 and 6.7. When my 2nd copies go away, I'm gonna be left w/ three maxed bots, a 5.4 zephyr, and......a bunch of unlevelled stuff. I'm not gonna be able to keep up w/ the maxed players who've been playing way longer than me who can still field five 6.7 bots, AND have the maxed weapons to fill all the EN capacities. Don't forget, going from 6.6 to 6.7 is a massive upgrade. We're talking increased EN capacity and an additional 10k+ HP. Yes, this update means I now have an increased advantage against the players out there who don't have any 6.7 stuff. But this transition to a p2w structure still leaves a bad taste in my mouth, and I think I don't wanna be a competitive player if this game is gonna go full-on p2w mode. So where does that leave me? Either I quit, or become a pure casual player. No more playing tourney. Just play a few games everyday for fun. The latter route you mentioned is actually a pretty fun way to go. I am not a competitive player in the sense that I need to have the best. I just like to win. Still, I don't have to. I stopped playing the tournament on "their" terms a while ago and only play when it suits me and I have time. I don't like who I am when I play the tournament competitively. I just have fun and blow stuff up as often as I can. CPC...5v5 deathmatch...doing feats. These are the things I do for the most part. That said, I understand how hard it is to take a step back if you're used to a certain level of competitiveness and you've invested in certain things. I get what you're saying and you are justified in your feelings. I still want to see what their "compensation" is to see how that side of this major change plays out. I hope you don't quit altogether. A bad taste in the mouth sucks, but that just means you need to eat some ice cream to make it go away! (Probably not the best metaphor, but I want ice cream right now...so yeah...) hahaha yea I've put a lot of playing into this account to get it to where it is (and some money too). I always played tourney last minute religiously everyday for the last 10 months and that's a routine for me, as well as joining for most of the Friday night time drops. It's definitely gonna be hard to step back from a routine like this, but I've done it w/ other games, and so I'll be able to do so here as well. That being said though, I've never played a game as competitively as this one, so I do think it'll be more difficult to step back from MA than War Robots.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 17, 2021 8:21:59 GMT -5
You know what's funny? I just realized that for my Thanos Guardian, instead of LA8, I can now do LA10. My LA8 has higher chance to overheat, but the slight increase of damage from the LA10 (cause I haven't ranked it up) is nice.
Edit...
So, I want to talk about possible builds as I work to rank up my mechs.
Panther is easy. My eventual plan is to run dual SB16, so right now it's running SB12/16 and it's pretty fun. I did try RG16/CB12 and this is a kick 「bum-bum」 build but can be hard to keep your head in a fast and furious brawl. For that reason, I still prefer dual CB12 for my second Panther which I will run until they take it away and compensate me.
Guardian is sporting LA10/RG16 and will eventually move up to dual RG16.
My KS is in a bit of a quandary. I've tried several different builds and keep coming back to dual PC8 for ease of use. RM12/JR16 isn't bad but I like dual JR6 on my Shadow. CB12/TL6 is not bad but keeps falling prey to Zephyrs and is very vulnerable to return fire.
My Shadow is still best with dual JR6 and I think eventually I'll try MR8 on it. But for now, if I take one JR6 off to give to the KS, then I don't really have a good alternative for it. Has anyone thought of putting RMs on the Shadow? I've never leveled my RM8 and haven't picked up the RM10 and if memory serves, it's very hard to land good hard hits with the RM8.
If I level up my MD, it'll likely sport MR8 in the future but for now, I don't know what interim weapons to try on it.
If I put my Zep back into action, I have no idea what would be good. Dual MR8 doesn't cut it for the Zep and hasn't for a long time. I'm thinking if/when I get it to 24EN, dual CB12 will be likely.
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Post by Old-Cat on Jul 17, 2021 10:40:56 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed a change in JR 6s mechanics and damage?
I haven’t run mine for a week or so and could be mistaken but at first glance they appear have have gotten a silent buff.
I put them on my killshot for “behind the back” challenge or whatever its called and was smoking up red left and right w them. They seem to hit very hard now. They also feel like I can target much closer reds, with more more movement in the arc.
Am I crazy ?
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 17, 2021 11:09:41 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed a change in JR 6s mechanics and damage? I haven’t run mine for a week or so and could be mistaken but at first glance they appear have have gotten a silent buff. I put them on my killshot for “behind the back” challenge or whatever its called and was smoking up red left and right w them. They seem to hit very hard now. They also feel like I can target much closer reds, with more more movement in the arc. Am I crazy ? The AI doesn't stare directly at players passed other mechs and full on buildings as much, so you're likely getting more flank hits.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jul 17, 2021 13:57:38 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed a change in JR 6s mechanics and damage? I haven’t run mine for a week or so and could be mistaken but at first glance they appear have have gotten a silent buff. I put them on my killshot for “behind the back” challenge or whatever its called and was smoking up red left and right w them. They seem to hit very hard now. They also feel like I can target much closer reds, with more more movement in the arc. Am I crazy ? Kinda depends. Mine have been hot and cold. They tear up reds really good if they’re getting overheated by a teammate, fair to average on most everything else, though they do seem to be doing slightly more damage, which I though was because I had just upgraded them a little. Except for Areseses … takes me 1 1/2 - 2 jav6 salvos just to take their shields down, then 2 more to kill them. Ares is a REAL pain in the arse to take out now by anything in my meager arsenal. But yes, all that notwithstanding, you’re crazy.
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Post by Koalabear on Jul 18, 2021 8:44:59 GMT -5
The only thing I've noticed is that you can hide behind low cover now to block most if not all of a salvo, and it's now harder to arc the missiles around corners. If anything, feels like a nerf. That's why I've been thinking of maybe leveling up my RM8 for eventual use on the Shadow.
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 18, 2021 16:30:47 GMT -5
The only thing I've noticed is that you can hide behind low cover now to block most if not all of a salvo, and it's now harder to arc the missiles around corners. If anything, feels like a nerf. That's why I've been thinking of maybe leveling up my RM8 for eventual use on the Shadow. RM8 are still kinda bad with their low shell count. Jav6 RM10 is probably the play there.
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Post by Redfiend on Jul 19, 2021 8:18:29 GMT -5
Weekly missions reset immediately after being claimed. Try not to overshoot the "Complete 30 Daily missions" task. 200 guaranteed coins every 5 days.
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