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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 13:29:01 GMT -5
So, classical question. Here comes my current hangar: I'm not a big fan of the Rhino, and I (almost) have the gold for a Lancelot, so, which one of these would serve me better: - Plasma ancilot (ancile + 2 tarans). I see it works quite well, but I'm not attracted by its slowness. It would also replace the Rhino in the only thing I find the Rhino does well for me: pushing to contested center beacons (and die there, for the most part). - A second Galahad, either plasma, or rockets (taran+2xmagnum, orkan+2xpiñata, orkan+2xmagnum). The easy choice, I have one, I love it, I already mostly know how to use it. - A full-Punishers Galahad: something I'm tempted by, but I don't know if Punishers are improved enough to make it a good idea. But I do miss the sound and the look of the Punishers :-)... plus a shieldbot is the only platform I'm tempted to try them on. Thanks for all ideas!
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Post by pj on Mar 30, 2017 13:43:18 GMT -5
Personally, if you enjoy the Galahad than go for the 2nd one. You could convert your DB griff to Plasma and use your 2nd Galahad in a rocket config with the Orc and Aphids or a hybrid with the orc and mags from the Rhino. If you choose the hybrid, than convert your Griff into a hybrid as well by moving your existing Tarans to it.
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Mar 30, 2017 14:07:41 GMT -5
I would never go for 2 Galahads in the same hangar. It will make you lack firepower and not a big long term investment. The best option IMO for your hangar is 2 zeus and 2 more orkans, thats 5400. Lancelot only works once its leveled enough, you can wait a little to see if the newer bots get released or play at your own risk. In short, you can go for: 1 - 2 Zeus (For Carnage) + 2 Orkans (For your RDB Griffin) 2 - Ancilot (Use him once he is leveled to 9 at least) 3 - Wait for new stuff
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Post by wannabetoughguy on Mar 30, 2017 14:18:54 GMT -5
I'd either build a splash galahad or a splash Lancelot (initially). Pick your poison.
You can go plasma Ancilot in the future, but when you really think about it a Lancelot gives you MORE options rather than a second Galahad.
I had a rhino and couldn't operate it well. A taran Ancilot will do what your rhino does, but better. Thunder/Orkan Lancelots are offensive machines (defensive too with the shield and constant movement). You also have level 9 Tulumbas... When the buff comes and they operate like orkans do that Lancelot will be a beast. Ultimately, you have more options with a Lancelot, not an additional Galahad. Galahads are great, but you will have to play flawless and have great defense if you choose to run two...
It's not like you can put an ancile on either Galahad lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 14:30:48 GMT -5
I think your hangar looks pretty good. Have you tried swapping your Tarans off the Rhino with the Orkans on your Aphid Griff? Taran/Aphid Griff works well, and Orkans on Rhino make it handle very differently. Just a thought that costs no AU.
Lance is a good addition though. I would not add a second Galahad.
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Post by drjackal on Mar 30, 2017 14:46:03 GMT -5
I am running 2 Plasmahads in my hanger and I must say that I love them. They are always the first to come out and only when they are gone I bring out my TT Carny. I got my 5000AU and saving a little more for a ancile so I can start with an Ancilot to replace my Rhino.
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Post by petevb on Mar 30, 2017 15:18:30 GMT -5
You need to get an Ancilot in. Top tier many of us are running two at this point- not huge fun to play but extremely strong when played correctly with the team.
The RDB will get very marginal as you move up. Too many Ancilots. The Rhino is borderline as well, but it can be used in the right role.
I would personally try: PDB Galahad / Stuka Griffin / PDB Griffin / Thunder Carnage / Taran Ancilot However you might find it either too fragile or lacking splash, in which case PDB Galahad / Stuka Griffin / DB Griffin / Zeus Carnage / Taran Ancilot Would be a stronger option.
2x Galahad are strong especially in the anti-Ancilot and anti-Griffin role, but these days I topically choose a 2nd Ancilot before a 2nd Galahad because of the advantages team tactics.
For reference my typical hanger today is often: PDB Galahad / DB Griffin / Taran Ancilot / Taran Ancilot / TT Fury (sometimes Zeus), or PDB Galahad / PDB Galahad / DB Griffin / Taran Ancilot / Taran Ancilot
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 30, 2017 15:50:16 GMT -5
Like OP have said. An Ancilot is a good subtitue for that Rhino. On top of that you can just use the Tarans from that Rhino on the Ancilot. I love mine it makes me feel "well endowed" when I'm in my Lance .
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Mar 30, 2017 16:22:27 GMT -5
When I saved up my $5k Au 2x ago, my ? was Lancelot or Fury.
I had the same Exact hanger as you!
I went with the Lancelot, every TT hanger runs them. For brawling in whatever form they do the work! A 2nd Galahad would only come after getting ALL the main bots - Lancelot & Fury.
Do you have any Tridents or Zeus to swap on your Carnage?
I liked the options and variety I had with the Carnage & Griffin - both able to play close or mid-range roles! If you do not have mid-range for your Carnage I would put that high on the list! *The extra 100m can make a big difference on the battlefield! I have not run my Tulus/Pin mainly because of effective range - hard to get there on open maps & stay under cover. If they buff the auto load, will have to look at again.
*I like sounds of a chain-gun no doubt!, but reviewing the feedback - I won't change weapons based on a better sound - definitely not worth loving the soundtrack as I die prematurely trying to finish unloading the clip!
I went with Tridents, I like Rockets & Splash!
Just got my Fury 3 days ago and trying to move through Diamond I. I am about 1 level above you in bots / weapons.
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Post by rustedscrap on Mar 30, 2017 16:30:18 GMT -5
Buy the Lance man for sure. You'll need to level it up to 9-10 though. If you run it at 1-8 you'll be dissapointed. I was but stuck with it and liked it so much I run 2 now. One tarAncilot (see what I did there?) And an ork thunder. It's the most meta bot right now. Lots of options for weapons. I sometimes run tulu/Zeus when im in the mood.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 30, 2017 17:05:27 GMT -5
Buy the Lance man for sure. You'll need to level it up to 9-10 though. If you run it at 1-8 you'll be dissapointed. I was but stuck with it and liked it so much I run 2 now. One tarAncilot (see what I did there?) And an ork thunder. It's the most meta bot right now. Lots of options for weapons. I sometimes run tulu/Zeus when im in the mood. Try a Thunder with Tulus with that Lance. The Thunder can wreck Anciles as far as 500 which is consequently the range of the Tulus.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 17:57:27 GMT -5
I've been playing 6 months, and I'm always a bit behind the curve when chasing the TT meta. I bought Aphids but they nerfed it, I have a Fury but now it's down to .5 a Fury if you look in the top 50 Legends league, Lancelots and Ancilots are in vogue, plus Zeus seems to be the weapon of choice. It's impossible to predict where it's gonna go, so just enjoy the now and don't worry if you're wearing last season's uncool clothes.
My bots are one level higher than yours, 9/10, so I've gone with my own hanger and replaced all my heavies. I'm running 2 light bots (Stalkers), and have done pretty good in Expert 2. I still pull my weight in damage, but I frequently have a lot of beacons and therefore my winning percentage has gone up. I still run my hanger with heavies, but I know if I play for an hour that my points will be about the same.
With that said, if you want to go for a conventional hanger, I'd pick the Lancelot since you don't have one, and it changes what you can do. Ancilot is good at going for contested beacons and breaking a logjam. Lancelots are weak to flanking attacks, so that's why they work best in groups. Number of Fury Tridents is way down on the field, but there's still enough rockets and DBs to present a danger so Ancilot's role is justified in a hanger. If you doubt whether that is more useful than a 2nd Galahad, then take note that the Galahad is still a great bot but it cannot be used to capture the center beacon of say Shenzhen or Yamantau when it's guarded by RDB Griffins and Tridents.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 18:08:46 GMT -5
I'd get an Ancile Lancelot. Those things are key to a top tier hangar.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 12:07:33 GMT -5
I really like the Galahad. I ahve two of them. However, over time I've found that I really only want one in my hangar, as a runner. I wouldn't recommend a second at this point, because I feel it'll end up collecting dust in time, just like mine.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 16:00:50 GMT -5
Hi all, thanks for all the ideas!! Ancilot it seems it will be then :-) I'm 3400-something gold, should be there in a few weeks I guess. Time to upgrade the Ancile in background. By then all the bots should be at level 9, so I guess I can assume to begin using the Ancilot when it gets to 9 as well, as suggested. All in all, probably more than a month from now. But the current hangar serves me well for the time being so there is no rush. To answer some of the other questions / suggestions:
- Mid-range Carnage: I have one leveled up Trident, I can buy and level another in time. Zeus I have none, so it would take much longer. I'm not sure if I want to replace the RDB griffin as my midrange though. I'm very comfortable with it, and a trident carnage hits for sure farther away, but has a significantly lower DPS, and can't jump. Here of course there is the upcoming reload-while-firing change to look at, but anyway, with still a good deal of upgrade to do to bring all to 9, plus the ancilot to acquire and bring up to level, I guess we will have time to see how it develops.
- Tarans on griff: I have run a PDB griff for a long time, I'm liking the Orkan Stuka better frankly. Something about the way I play, probably because I have a habit to jump-rocket attacks which I use often with the RDB as well. Actually, I have the stuka only since a while and I'm liking it even more than I imagined. The issue with the taran on the Griffin is that it makes it weak against shieldbots, you meet a Galahad, unless you have the jump ready, you are dead. Since I find that one of the big advantages of the stuka is that you fire the aphids while jumping, it is a setup that tends to jump to attack, not to retreat, so Orkans seem to work better. Just my impression though.
Besides: is the damage-not-registering bug in the Zeus still there?
Thanks to you all for the help!!!
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