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Post by K A Z on Mar 30, 2017 7:11:59 GMT -5
I'm a bit bored with current hangar and annoyed with MR flood spread by our cherished mm crap, so I'm looking for a change or two in my hangar I've got: Some Ag 2,1k Au 38k WSP (I stopped production atm) Hangar atm: 1 Plasmahad (usually good performer) 2 Aphid Taran Griff (overall good, but short lifespan) 3 Thunder Carny (between love and hate) 4 DB Griff (so-so all the way to hell yeah) 5 Trident Molot Natasha (almost always works) Bot stock: some more griffs, leos, geps, boas, cossacks, etc. Weapon stock: aphid, some magnums, tarans and every possible combination of Ag stuff Now I'm upgrading it and thinking of possible changes to the above lineup. Sometimes I change ADB/DB with Molot or RDB Griffs, sometimes ADB is switched to Aphid gep. I feel shortage of MR and/or I would like to try out something new. I consider either: - getting Zeuses for Carny (or 2nd carny to carry them), but I'm still 900 Au short - changing the Thunders to Tridents (would need to buy 2 Tridents); had it before and I was rather not impressed, but thunders are roulette, while Tridents always score. - Getting Hydra Fujin (yeah, eat my homing spam) - waiting and collecting Au for Fury or other possible new Au bots (dash / wild bunch) Any of above seems reasonable? Never had a single sniper bot, but I'm not saying "no" either. Other ideas? Any and all are welcome!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 30, 2017 8:16:46 GMT -5
If you want moar MR, my advice and recommendation:
Zeus Carny.
A change I think you would benefit from:
2 Moar Orks to replace Tarans on that Aphid Griff.
Haven't grown to like any sniper build, the only one I will worry about when I get done with the weapons for my KFs and MR is a Treb Fury or Treb Natty. I have 2 Trebs at 8 and have used them on the Natty, but I was underwhelmed. I want to level them to see if I like them better, but it will be a while. I have a pair of Nashorns at 8, too, but haven't used them lately.
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Post by NokiaSåmsung on Mar 30, 2017 8:34:09 GMT -5
If you just want different for the sake of different, why not try pin Gep I'm in diamond 2 (IOS) and using my 7/8, still has its use. In fact intending to make it 9/9
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Post by K A Z on Mar 30, 2017 8:59:06 GMT -5
If you want moar MR, my advice and recommendation: Zeus Carny. A change I think you would benefit from: 2 Moar Orks to replace Tarans on that Aphid Griff. Haven't grown to like any sniper build, the only one I will worry about when I get done with the weapons for my KFs and MR is a Treb Fury or Treb Natty. I have 2 Trebs at 8 and have used them on the Natty, but I was underwhelmed. I want to level them to see if I like them better, but it will be a while. I have a pair of Nashorns at 8, too, but haven't used them lately. My original plan for Au was actually those 2 orks. It's just now that I started exploring other options
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Post by K A Z on Mar 30, 2017 9:00:53 GMT -5
If you just want different for the sake of different, why not try pin Gep I'm in diamond 2 (IOS) and using my 7/8, still has its use. In fact intending to make it 9/9 Hmmm...maybe an idea, but pins are rather low in dmg output, aren't they? The RDB setup feels a bit flimsy, so 3 Pin do not convince me atm.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 9:07:50 GMT -5
I feel shortage of MR and/or I would like to try out something new. I consider either: - getting Zeuses for Carny (or 2nd carny to carry them), but I'm still 900 Au short Good idea, but I wouldn't recommend it because of the terrible bug with the Zeus. I have one, and seldom use it because of that very reason. - changing the Thunders to Tridents (would need to buy 2 Tridents); had it before and I was rather not impressed, but thunders are roulette, while Tridents always score. Tridents go best with Pins on a Natasha. At least that's my preference. - Getting Hydra Fujin (yeah, eat my homing spam) Nope - waiting and collecting Au for Fury or other possible new Au bots (dash / wild bunch) Dash bots will probably cost event currency, while the wild bunch will not be able to compete with the Fury as midrange. Never had a single sniper bot, but I'm not saying "no" either. The only time when I would use my KWK Molot Natasha / KWK Fury, is during a clan v clan battle as an anti-Fury bot. It's otherwise a detriment to solo play.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 30, 2017 9:11:33 GMT -5
Get an Ancilot. It gets more utility the higher you go and is a TT build. a TT fury is also an option
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Post by K A Z on Mar 30, 2017 9:24:09 GMT -5
@darkangel Zeus - shame..I had hopes that it could be the 1st on the list. How bad is it / how many shots go with no dmg registered? Pins vs Molots. I had Pins before and it was ok, but nowhere as good as with molots now; even despite the Pins having +1 level above molots. Reasons are - more continuous output, higher dpm, extra range, suppression ability and holding the ancile down (at carnages at least). I can only recommend you to try it. Atm tasha is "secure" in my hangar. Fujin hydra - I still hesitate...would wish to troll at least once lol Dash/wild - you may be right, but it can also be taht wild bunch will go on Au while dash ones go under "event hammer". KWK - I was thinking more about trebs... In case I can get my hands on Doc, trebs will have their trial run! gr3ygh05t Nice idea, but I'm still 4600 Au away from that...moreover I busted countless Ancilots, while Garrys sometimes cause more problems... Hmm...Garreth maybe?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 30, 2017 9:37:23 GMT -5
Well, not to start a big debate... but Kaz, I don't have hits not register damage unless they are partially obscured by cover... game after game I have been using these and I am LOVING it. Ask in clan chat, the others that are using it, what they think too... I have enough Tridents to run a Fury, and for a while I ran a Trident Carny along side the Zeus Carny. The Zeus out performed it. Do what you want, but don't let the "glitch" be the deciding factor. LAG may be part of it... I have seen laggy games where they were in my target rectical and locked-on, I fired, and no damage happened... I was sure this was the glitch... then my game caught up and it was obvious that they had been behind cover when I shot.
IMO, YMMV.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2017 10:27:26 GMT -5
You have a 1/3 chance to do damage, 1/3 chance to do partial damage and 1/3 to do no damage with the Zeus Carnage.
I have tried the Molot Trident Natasha and actually preferred Pins > Punishers > Molots.
If the Wild West bots go gold, I still wouldn't get them. They are more fun than they are competitive.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 30, 2017 13:01:25 GMT -5
You have a 1/3 chance to do damage, 1/3 chance to do partial damage and 1/3 to do no damage with the Zeus Carnage. I have tried the Molot Trident Natasha and actually preferred Pins > Punishers > Molots. If the Wild West bots go gold, I still wouldn't get them. They are more fun than they are competitive. maybe for you, but damage always registers for me. any griffin or carnage hitpoints plummet every zap. maybe it is just an ios issue, as i run on android.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Mar 30, 2017 14:20:08 GMT -5
@darkangel Zeus - shame..I had hopes that it could be the 1st on the list. How bad is it / how many shots go with no dmg registered? Pins vs Molots. I had Pins before and it was ok, but nowhere as good as with molots now; even despite the Pins having +1 level above molots. Reasons are - more continuous output, higher dpm, extra range, suppression ability and holding the ancile down (at carnages at least). I can only recommend you to try it. Atm tasha is "secure" in my hangar. Fujin hydra - I still hesitate...would wish to troll at least once lol Dash/wild - you may be right, but it can also be taht wild bunch will go on Au while dash ones go under "event hammer". KWK - I was thinking more about trebs... In case I can get my hands on Doc, trebs will have their trial run! gr3ygh05t Nice idea, but I'm still 4600 Au away from that...moreover I busted countless Ancilots, while Garrys sometimes cause more problems... Hmm...Garreth maybe? Zeus - I have seen many upper level hangers with Zeus Carnys. I went the Tridents route for mid range because of splash & get wasted by the TT Fury. I plan on getting a 2nd Zeus for this build for vaiety. I have seen be very effective on battlefield & I believe less & less that there is glitch vs. Other factors. Puns/Molots - Great they buffed they seem more of a distraction that can be avoided by awareness. Do not see them in Diamond. Fujin - spider bots, not my thing, I like to move around. Dash etc... - Need to be put in store to be viable or just plain lucky. KWk - just purchased my TT Fury - dont see much need to battle past 600. Gareth - I have one, and its a Fast Tough LiL F'er. But.... its a light bot & it doesnt compare on battlefield to my Galahad! Just will not last. My .02
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Post by K A Z on Mar 31, 2017 2:32:23 GMT -5
I guess I'll try zeus option then, with some additional thought to try Gary finally.
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Post by Paps on Mar 31, 2017 2:46:23 GMT -5
Zeus works for me. Quite well, in fact. Have 2 on Carnage and have for a long time. I experience minimal damage registration issues (although it has happened) and it's the only 350+ range setup I use right now. Not to go against the 'zeus sucks' crowd, but it really doesn't. Not for me at least. Born lucky I guess.
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Post by K A Z on Mar 31, 2017 3:12:00 GMT -5
Could it be indeed an iOS issue only?
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Post by Paps on Mar 31, 2017 4:11:29 GMT -5
Nah. I'm Android and zapped some dude in a Griffin standing right in front of me for zero damage. That's just the most obvious example that comes to my mind (could have been lag or whatever, but my game normally runs good). I'm not disagreeing that it happens, just sayin it doesn't make the weapon system useless.
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Post by K A Z on Mar 31, 2017 4:48:08 GMT -5
Ok, seems I'll take the bait and go for zappers first, Gary to follow as I collect more gold. Now the core question - where is my bloody 800 Au missing My hangar atm: Ehhh...I would really use 6th slot (even if I could use only 5 of 6 in the battle)
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Post by Paps on Mar 31, 2017 5:10:07 GMT -5
That would be sweet. Tuck an extra mid/long ranger in there for those maps you need to reach out and inappropriately touch someone.
I'm interested to hear why there was an extra hangar slot on this past test server. Very interested.
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 31, 2017 6:31:30 GMT -5
That would be sweet. Tuck an extra mid/long ranger in there for those maps you need to reach out and inappropriately touch someone. I'm interested to hear why there was an extra hangar slot on this past test server. Very interested. adding a sniper only slot for larger maps would be nice.
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Post by cypho on Mar 31, 2017 6:53:46 GMT -5
For some reason I had a total block on what 'MR' stood for, so I googled it and got the result "Mental Retardation". It amused me when I inserted that into the first couple of posts.
Just thought I'd share...
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Post by K A Z on Mar 31, 2017 6:59:24 GMT -5
For some reason I had a total block on what 'MR' stood for, so I googled it and got the result "Mental ?special?ation". It amused me when I inserted that into the first couple of posts. Just thought I'd share... Seems my hangar is just 20% menatly-challenged lol Time to increase that cut!
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 31, 2017 8:46:00 GMT -5
For some reason I had a total block on what 'MR' stood for, so I googled it and got the result "Mental ?special?ation". It amused me when I inserted that into the first couple of posts. Just thought I'd share... Seems my hangar is just 20% menatly-challenged lol Time to increase that cut! pretty sure it stands for Mid Range...
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