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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 7:05:46 GMT -5
Is it still a thing? Does it become more like War Robots?
My initial playing did not impress compared to War Robots, but it seems to still be around.
So, good.....bad.....ugly.....$$$$$$$....
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Post by BigBear on Mar 20, 2021 8:28:23 GMT -5
I recently returned to the game after a month break (around the time of the tourney A coin nerf), looking at my friends list I had around 62 before the break,I now have 50 and of those 18 have not signed in for over a week,among those were players I know paid into the game with a good chunk of money,if they leave after spending money I see little chance of the game owners enticing them back.
I was hoping a month break from the game would reignite my interest but the grind is still real,I have thousands of blueprints and hundreds of thousands of credits but the issue is my hanger of bots and weapons is stuck on level updating,and that requires A coins and a ton of them at that.
I feel I have spent enough of what I feel happy spending on this game so far,I want to be a F2P for a while but the grind for minute amounts of A coin is depressing me to the point I find it difficult to play more than a couple of games.
I feel the owners made a huge mistake in nerfing A coin rewards (announced in the tourney event but unannounced in the events !!),the mech playing community is burnt out from grinding (not Plariums fault but they should be aware of the player market) and so it remains to be seen if they can regain the fast growing player base they were attracting before they threw it away with apparent greed.
For me and my feelings I can take it or leave it at the moment,not bothered if I miss a day or two of play,If I get a bit of free time I play a few rounds but I'm beyond grinding for that elusive carrot anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 8:44:51 GMT -5
Grinding is the mainstay of every game I’ve ever played with mobile apps.
The grind is designed to make $$$$$$.
I look forward to other opinions and votes. I know Danny was not happy, but see recent posts from him playing MA.
As for War Robots, the grind and fast meta $$$$$$$ changes are still a thing. I do well because I do not chase meta and play for fun. Getting serious with ANY app game with IAP means money shall be spent, but it is never enough $$$$$$$$$$.
I won’t pass judgment on MA yet, but this first post begins to show a pattern of MA being like War Robots overall, just different skin.........
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Post by BigBear on Mar 20, 2021 9:21:17 GMT -5
I understand ALL mobile games are out to make money and I am fine with that,I have invested money in every game that I enjoy playing as I believe in supporting that game.
What I don't enjoy is seeing very little for your money,righ now I could spend £10 on a A coin pack and do nothing with it,it won't raise my A coin sufficiently to do or buy anything with it.
Not sure if that is down to the high in-game currency or the amount your money gets you but the overall outcome is I have little desire to invest if it won't help me here and now.
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Mar 20, 2021 9:36:43 GMT -5
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Post by punishingcossack on Mar 20, 2021 10:32:21 GMT -5
have y'all forgotten that nerf and buff cycles happen every month in War Robots? that 「dookie」 doesn't happen in MA
sure, I hate the rewards nerfs just as much as you, but at least I know my stuff isn't gonna be nerfed into oblivion w/ the next update. Also, Plarium doesn't release OP bots and tthen nerf them to the ground. case in point, Redox is actually worse than Paragon.
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Post by punishingcossack on Mar 20, 2021 10:37:57 GMT -5
I was hoping a month break from the game would reignite my interest but the grind is still real,I have thousands of blueprints and hundreds of thousands of credits but the issue is my hanger of bots and weapons is stuck on level updating,and that requires A coins and a ton of them at that. I definitely do feel you here; I played tourney everyday for like 4 months and forced myself sometimes to play just so I can get those sweet resources, but since they nerfed the rewards, I'm skipped one heat a week every week, simply b/c I didn't feel like playing, or I hated the map for a particular day. though this behavioral change comes w/ the caveat that almost all my stuff is mid-level rank 6, so resources are far less important to me than others. |
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Post by OU812? on Mar 20, 2021 10:50:43 GMT -5
I’m a War Robots refugee that played it diligently from Nov. ‘14 to Aug. 20. So far, MA is not War Robots.
Since I’ve started they’ve only added one bot and openly buffed one weapon. I suspect they’ve quietly nerfed a few things, but it’s seemed so minor. MA isn’t manipulating the meta like Pix does, thankfully. I do think they move the goalposts back in terms of AI as you progress through the bot and weapon upgrades. I’m now facing more meta builds armed with CB8s and 10s, but I’m adapting and still enjoying the game.
My favorite and best build has been a Jav6 Shadow for the longest time. Sure there’s “better” builds out there but I use the Shadows advantages to stay ahead. When I get bored of it I try other bots and weapons out. I appreciate that skill really seems necessary with builds in MA.
I’ve shown MAs developers some love financially. I appreciate what their doing and will give them $5-$15 a month, but i really don’t think it’s necessary to enjoy the game. Interestingly, I haven’t moved on to stasis beams, carbines and other higher meta weapons. As a result I’m amassing quite an cache of resources as my upgrades have plateaued. But I’m still having fun and doing well.
I’m more interested in getting a second Shadow for experimenting with other weapon builds during matches. If I get bored or get a whimsy to try something new, I’ll do it then. Otherwise, it’s nice not to feel like I’m on some hamster wheel Pix has prepared for me.
One other important thought. The MA community is great. I get lots of salutary messages from other gamers and squadding is great fun. Haven’t had anyone give me grief for running what I want, when I want. The only annoyance is the chatty-cathies who want to visit for four minutes between matches.
Hope this gives you some impression of what Mech Arena is like.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 11:28:46 GMT -5
Although you share some good thoughts, remember MA is new....did War Robots do what they do now during years 1-2?
I have read that when Pix bought War Robots, the crap started......and who knows, business wise, what will happen to MA long term.
Happy there is fun to be had in MA, and there is, too, in War Robots-if your willing to stay lower leagues and not chase meta.
If your competitive, join an A or S clan, all that junk.....well, good luck with that!
One thing is for certain....both games are just that...video games, that mean nothing at all.
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Post by BigBear on Mar 20, 2021 12:23:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you class as new but MA launched January 2019,it's been in beta since then.
Progression is important to keep interest in a game,I have to feel I'm moving forward and advancing,I feel stagnant in this game,I don't have resources to upgrade what I have or buy the decent stuff,without paying more money I can't advance any further and play with the same hanger month after month.
I'm a War Robots refugee from back when it was Walking War Robots so I know how bad things can go and yes MA is no where near that bad,but it could be so much better than it is and I'm hoping they can move it in the right direction.
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Post by reconnecting on Mar 20, 2021 12:52:37 GMT -5
War Robots is unrecognizable from when I played in September 2017. It is also a cash hog. So after the drones came I stopped playing and have uninstalled it on two devices. I have thought of trying the old level 6 only league again. That might be fun. I like MA and do well at it, though its hard to level things. I still can try different builds. I also reduced my playing time to 6 or so games daily, just to get Something from the tournament. MA over War Robots for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 13:58:19 GMT -5
War Robots is unrecognizable from when I played in September 2017. It is also a cash hog. So after the drones came I stopped playing and have uninstalled it on two devices. I have thought of trying the old level 6 only league again. That might be fun. I like MA and do well at it, though its hard to level things. I still can try different builds. I also reduced my playing time to 6 or so games daily, just to get Something from the tournament. MA over War Robots for sure. After a 9 month quit of War Robots, I started playing again in Jan. In fact, tomorrow is 2 months.......I was pushed into Champs and was krill, but after remastered and I qualified, I was placed into E1....now mid E2. All the uglies are mid to high Masters and above. At the moment, my only angst in game is Scorpions, truly a coward bot. Those things made me shelve Strider, as I was a snack for any unskilled person that could manage to tap a magic on button. I leveled my SE Blitz, and use jump module-all bots can jump now, it is a blast!-and can deal with Scorps with this build. I also completed some tasks enough to score an Arachnid Invader, never had that bot before....jump module on that, and Falcon-just plain makes me smile! btw, MA starting in 2019 makes it new in my POV, not yet 2 years old......as for hope it gets better, I have read hundreds of War Robots posts saying the exact same thing. Never forget-Business is Business........... |
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Post by reconnecting on Mar 20, 2021 14:23:08 GMT -5
War Robots is unrecognizable from when I played in September 2017. It is also a cash hog. So after the drones came I stopped playing and have uninstalled it on two devices. I have thought of trying the old level 6 only league again. That might be fun. I like MA and do well at it, though its hard to level things. I still can try different builds. I also reduced my playing time to 6 or so games daily, just to get Something from the tournament. MA over War Robots for sure. After a 9 month quit of War Robots, I started playing again in Jan. In fact, tomorrow is 2 months.......I was pushed into Champs and was krill, but after remastered and I qualified, I was placed into E1....now mid E2. All the uglies are mid to high Masters and above. At the moment, my only angst in game is Scorpions, truly a coward bot. Those things made me shelve Strider, as I was a snack for any unskilled person that could manage to tap a magic on button. I leveled my SE Blitz, and use jump module-all bots can jump now, it is a blast!-and can deal with Scorps with this build. I also completed some tasks enough to score an Arachnid Invader, never had that bot before....jump module on that, and Falcon-just plain makes me smile! btw, MA starting in 2019 makes it new in my POV, not yet 2 years old......as for hope it gets better, I have read hundreds of War Robots posts saying the exact same thing. Never forget-Business is Business........... A new bot is always fun. 😊 And jumping with my bots was very fun also. I just wish the lag wasnt so awful. I find War Robots nearly impossible to play these days, and my WiFi router is three steps from me. Also my hangar is like early 2020ish so it gets outclassed by most red hangars. But I may give the 6pack League a try if it still exists. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2021 14:59:45 GMT -5
A new bot is always fun. 😊 And jumping with my bots was very fun also. I just wish the lag wasnt so awful. I find War Robots nearly impossible to play these days, and my WiFi router is three steps from me. Also my hangar is like early 2020ish so it gets outclassed by most red hangars. But I may give the 6pack League a try if it still exists. 6 pack is alive and well..... What league are you in? |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 20, 2021 15:40:36 GMT -5
As much as I piss and moan about certain aspects of the game, most notably the idiotic decisions the devs make re acorns and rewards, MA is still infinitely better than W R. Matchmaking is horrible; AI is blatantly manipulative, especially if you play solo and there are no other human players on your team. And grinding for resources is more of a chore than ever since the a-coin nerf. But get a team together with 2, 3, or 4 decent players, and the game is a blast to play. I’ve got one friend in particular I’ve played over 100 games with and lost only one. The guy just plays game after game teamed up with all good players, and even though my hangar is usually pretty well outmatched, I can mostly hang with them fairly well. None of them consistently dominate the rest - we all have good and bad games, but we almost always win. Those games were virtually nonexistent for me in W R.
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 22, 2021 11:18:58 GMT -5
No, MA is not War Robots, but there's one thing to consider. There are more AI bots in MA, so the "equality or inequality" of the MM is illusory until there more more human vs AI players in the matches.
In terms of mechanics, I liked MA's free look movement so much that it's the primary reason I haven't tried War Robots since Drones. I need to be able to look up and down. If War Robots added that mechanic back in, I might try War Robots again and suck up the losses until I fell down to a league that is more my level.
I've shown my appreciation with my wallet, and I've progressed to a point where I don't really need to spend anymore. The only thing I'm working towards now is a second Panther. The new mech that they released is so UP (under powered) that it's a joke and no one runs it. The way the leveling works in the game is such that you only really need to get new gear if you want to try new things, not because the new gear is more powerful. Case in point, the big thing about the Brickhouse mech used to be it's HP and now it's Overcharge ability. My R5 Juggernaut now has more base HP than the Brickhouse plus a regenerating shield. So, when you think about it, it's all still balanced and the only reason to get the BH is to try out the Overcharge ability with team mates. And boy does it make a difference!
Jury's still out though, IMO, on everything. They haven't gone full release yet, and I'm guessing its probably due to capital as it probably costs a ton to get new servers all over the world. Once they do, the pressure to generate more money will be there and we'll see how the devs react to that pressure. For now though, it's a very enjoyable game and the irony is that I would have NEVER found it if the ad didn't come up in War Robots!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 22, 2021 12:50:38 GMT -5
I'm "all-in" as far as making the switch, if you haven't noticed yet... and I can't compare the two anymore. It is def NOT War Robots rebranded, and I don't even think calling it a clone is apt. It's a mech 5v5, with some Beacon elements, but the similarities really end there. Early game isn't as engaging as late game, and solo play isn't as engaging as squad play. I don't get much game time, so I have spent some to balance that out, much like I did in War Robots... and I have gotten more satisfaction from spending in MA than I ever did in War Robots. I am like Koala that I have found a spot where spending more is not necessary even to keep up, and I by no means bought my way to max. Just got some decent gear with the starter packs, then I support them with 2-3 x a month buying the $4.99 crate + currency packages that pop up once a week. Once or twice, since I started, I have dropped for a big bundle of A-coins (big for me is the $20 and $50 price range... not going higher, personally) but the majority of it was ground out before the reward nerf that they just reversed. TBF, when the change to rewards was made, they openly stated that they were doing it, and said it was testing for full release. I mean, I get that, and they really do need to get economy concreted before releasing globally, as that would be much more difficult to reverse than in the current state of the game. Well... then, lo and behold, they realized it was not working out for the happiness of the community (as probably evidenced by the drop in incoming funds, among other things) and came right out and let us know that the test was complete and we now have A Coin rewards in Tourney again... In War Robots, that level of clarity of communication was unheard of, ever since fail.fu bought War Robots, at least while I was still playing (up until 6.0). So, with all that out of the way, the gameplay is what I really dig:
*Games are shorter, which fits a mobile game, better. Now, I don't have an issue with 10 minute matches... but there is a lot of wasted time in War Robots for various reasons.
*No titans.
*It's simple. And that is a good thing... not having to worry about pilots, drones, mods, etc., leaves the focus on tactics and different combos of the gear you already have, which is more to my liking.
*The game speed, in general, is better. FPS, smoothness, etc. Just nice. Spoiled me enough that I just sorta laugh at War Robots when I played on my Smurf after 6.X fixed some of the performance issues. I don't log into it at all, now. It's just too... IDK... cumbersome. Lots of performance based issues. Throw in the War Robots lag here, for good measure.
*The aiming incorporates the Y axis.
*Nothing is really OP (sure, some things are better than others, but you can still die to an early game weapon if it is leveled up and you don't try to counter it, fairly easily. Skill is very much needed in this game.)
*Reload buttons.
*I like the simplicity of each mech only having two weapon slots. It uses energy cost to determine what your mech can carry; each mech has an energy budget, and each weapon has a cost. You are only limited by that. Every slot can use every weapon that fits within the EN budget of said mech. There are more... but I am at work and need to eat and play a game or two while still on lunch  |
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Post by dukeofadvil on Mar 23, 2021 9:52:52 GMT -5
Haven't gone back to play War Robots in about 6-8 months, but i have definitely slowed down play on Mech Arena. Even after the re-buf of A-coins i just do not get enough tournament play time to score top 3 consistency. My 3 primary bots are sitting at 4-7, and their weapons are a-coin hungry as well. I have been stalled between 1900-2050 for a couple months now, with no end in site unless i open the wallet.
Yellow lights flashing everywhere.
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Post by Redfiend on Mar 23, 2021 23:07:39 GMT -5
Haven't gone back to play War Robots in about 6-8 months, but i have definitely slowed down play on Mech Arena. Even after the re-buf of A-coins i just do not get enough tournament play time to score top 3 consistency. My 3 primary bots are sitting at 4-7, and their weapons are a-coin hungry as well. I have been stalled between 1900-2050 for a couple months now, with no end in site unless i open the wallet. Yellow lights flashing everywhere. Yea, the cast of weapon types and mech abilities encourage players to try everything. The lack of resources demands players pick a handful of things and stick to ONLY those items, else moving up is slower than a glacier. |
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Post by punishingcossack on Mar 24, 2021 2:05:39 GMT -5
Haven't gone back to play War Robots in about 6-8 months, but i have definitely slowed down play on Mech Arena. Even after the re-buf of A-coins i just do not get enough tournament play time to score top 3 consistency. My 3 primary bots are sitting at 4-7, and their weapons are a-coin hungry as well. I have been stalled between 1900-2050 for a couple months now, with no end in site unless i open the wallet. Yellow lights flashing everywhere. Yea, the cast of weapon types and mech abilities encourage players to try everything. The lack of resources demands players pick a handful of things and stick to ONLY those items, else moving up is slower than a glacier. haven't seen you in a while, do u still play |
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Post by dukeofadvil on Mar 24, 2021 7:04:02 GMT -5
Yea, the cast of weapon types and mech abilities encourage players to try everything. The lack of resources demands players pick a handful of things and stick to ONLY those items, else moving up is slower than a glacier. haven't seen you in a while, do u still play yeah, a handful of games a day...my current tag is HTTC_Advil. Negetive Man approached me about joining when i couldn't complete a play with friends challenge. |
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Post by mechtout on Mar 26, 2021 12:36:19 GMT -5
definitely better than war robots, started war robots during the mag gep days and wont be going back to that game. Havent played MA in a while either since i got Valheim on pc, prob be back later though.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 26, 2021 14:11:44 GMT -5
definitely better than war robots, started war robots during the mag gep days and wont be going back to that game. Havent played MA in a while either since i got Valheim on pc, prob be back later though. Wondered why I hadn't seen you around...
V looks like a fun game, for real. One day I will get another PC.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 27, 2021 12:58:08 GMT -5
definitely better than war robots, started war robots during the mag gep days and wont be going back to that game. Havent played MA in a while either since i got Valheim on pc, prob be back later though. Wondered why I hadn't seen you around...
V looks like a fun game, for real. One day I will get another PC.
One. Day. It actually doesn't need much to run V, which is also why i like the game, my old gtx is more than enough. |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Apr 5, 2021 7:58:46 GMT -5
Wonder what these new items will cost... shocktrain scourge hybrid? flashbacks, should be fun  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 5, 2021 8:25:03 GMT -5
Wonder what these new items will cost... shocktrain scourge hybrid? flashbacks, should be fun IDK about costs... but from their description, the "chain" distance should be short and therefore more like a large splash area type effect than the 150m effect we saw in War Robots. But until we see it that is just a guess. I'm reserving judgement so far since most things seem to be in balance in the game. Redox was pleasantly NOT OP, so I hope that continues to be the case with any other newly introduced items. |
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Apr 5, 2021 9:31:50 GMT -5
Wonder what these new items will cost... shocktrain scourge hybrid? flashbacks, should be fun IDK about costs... but from their description, the "chain" distance should be short and therefore more like a large splash area type effect than the 150m effect we saw in War Robots. But until we see it that is just a guess. I'm reserving judgement so far since most things seem to be in balance in the game. Redox was pleasantly NOT OP, so I hope that continues to be the case with any other newly introduced items. I secretly enjoyed ST... not gonna lie.. The Hydra kids can still go to hell though. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 5, 2021 9:48:16 GMT -5
IDK about costs... but from their description, the "chain" distance should be short and therefore more like a large splash area type effect than the 150m effect we saw in War Robots. But until we see it that is just a guess. I'm reserving judgement so far since most things seem to be in balance in the game. Redox was pleasantly NOT OP, so I hope that continues to be the case with any other newly introduced items. I secretly enjoyed ST... not gonna lie.. The Hydra kids can still go to hell though. Agreed on the Hydra, but I straight up LOATHED STs... especially the going through walls BS. Was the first time I put the game down for a while... especially after the Sphincter STs were so prevalent. I would play against and with Hydra bots all day long if it meant no STs, back then. *shudder* |
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Post by reconnecting on Apr 5, 2021 11:12:32 GMT -5
IDK about costs... but from their description, the "chain" distance should be short and therefore more like a large splash area type effect than the 150m effect we saw in War Robots. But until we see it that is just a guess. I'm reserving judgement so far since most things seem to be in balance in the game. Redox was pleasantly NOT OP, so I hope that continues to be the case with any other newly introduced items. I secretly enjoyed ST... not gonna lie.. The Hydra kids can still go to hell though. Hail Hydra! 😂😅 |
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Post by reconnecting on Apr 5, 2021 11:23:13 GMT -5
I really don't like the Zephyr's freeze and just stand there doing nothing ability. Very frustrating. So another mech with that ability is not a good thing imo. Fortunately I prefer fighting at longish range, with the exception of KS. I use KS at mid range with JRs. I like new stuff, but this new mechs ability just makes me give it a huge eyeroll. 🙄
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