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Post by Deadeye on Jan 7, 2021 12:43:23 GMT -5
Ok, so this is what my hanger looks like now.
5.2 Panther with 5.1 RG/3.7 LA8
4.7 KS with 4.5 PC8s
5.2 Guardian with 5.3 Carb12/5.1 SB12
4.7 Ares with 4.5 MR8s
4.6 Zephyr with 5.6 Carb8s
Plans set in stone
Get Carb10 (it's next and I'm about 2000 a-coins away)
Zephyr to rank up and run Carb 8/10 (Duh, I love this thing, but it could use a shot in the arm with the Carb10)
KS to rank up and run Carb 8/10 (this is longer term as it requires the duplication of Carb10, but somehow I've already got a crap-ton of Carb10 blue prints, soooo....)
The above 2 plans are actually fairly expensive with medium bot rank ups costing over 2800 a-coins each. Ouch. This brings me to my next thoughts and question(s)
The RG/LA Panther is boss, but I don't want another identical set-up of that. I try to keep one sniper build for when it's necessary, but I prefer brawling. Also, the Ares is my favorite tank (I like speed and it's the fastest along with other reasons), but I am LOVING the Guardian and Panther at R5. The abilities of these have always been super useful, but now they can take a punch...well, the Guardian can at least. I plan to double up the Carb12 on it in time. And I'd like to double up and move the SB12s over to another platform to replace the Ares (I know, no tanks...sacrilege!), but I don't know which to choose. The Guardian would be great for this because (when doubled) will have tank-level health and the ability is great for debilitating mechs before freezing them up. However, the synergism between the SB12s and the Panther stasis field makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
What would you do in my place? Please answer the specific question, but feel free to tell me how much of a cotton headed ninny muggins I am for ditching tanks altogether.
Thanks
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Post by punishingcossack on Jan 7, 2021 13:30:43 GMT -5
Ok, so this is what my hanger looks like now. 5.2 Panther with 5.1 RG/3.7 LA8 4.7 KS with 4.5 PC8s 5.2 Guardian with 5.3 Carb12/5.1 SB12 4.7 Ares with 4.5 MR8s 4.6 Zephyr with 5.6 Carb8s Plans set in stone Get Carb10 (it's next and I'm about 2000 a-coins away) Zephyr to rank up and run Carb 8/10 (Duh, I love this thing, but it could use a shot in the arm with the Carb10) KS to rank up and run Carb 8/10 (this is longer term as it requires the duplication of Carb10, but somehow I've already got a crap-ton of Carb10 blue prints, soooo....) The above 2 plans are actually fairly expensive with medium bot rank ups costing over 2800 a-coins each. Ouch. This brings me to my next thoughts and question(s) The RG/LA Panther is boss, but I don't want another identical set-up of that. I try to keep one sniper build for when it's necessary, but I prefer brawling. Also, the Ares is my favorite tank (I like speed and it's the fastest along with other reasons), but I am LOVING the Guardian and Panther at R5. The abilities of these have always been super useful, but now they can take a punch...well, the Guardian can at least. I plan to double up the Carb12 on it in time. And I'd like to double up and move the SB12s over to another platform to replace the Ares (I know, no tanks...sacrilege!), but I don't know which to choose. The Guardian would be great for this because (when doubled) will have tank-level health and the ability is great for debilitating mechs before freezing them up. However, the synergism between the SB12s and the Panther stasis field makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. What would you do in my place? Please answer the specific question, but feel free to tell me how much of a cotton headed ninny muggins I am for ditching tanks altogether. Thanks you're not crazy for not running any tanks. However, when you level up your Guardian, it's a pseudo-tank. if you're playing solo, I prefer guardian 2x carb12. if squad, you could do sb12 + carb12 on either panther or guardian, I personally would do it panther. if you like brawling, you can run the attack-oriented panther build that I have; clearly I like it enough that I'm running two of them. I also have the option of switching MR out for an LA8 in squad  |
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Post by Deadeye on Jan 7, 2021 13:41:29 GMT -5
Ok, so this is what my hanger looks like now. 5.2 Panther with 5.1 RG/3.7 LA8 4.7 KS with 4.5 PC8s 5.2 Guardian with 5.3 Carb12/5.1 SB12 4.7 Ares with 4.5 MR8s 4.6 Zephyr with 5.6 Carb8s Plans set in stone Get Carb10 (it's next and I'm about 2000 a-coins away) Zephyr to rank up and run Carb 8/10 (Duh, I love this thing, but it could use a shot in the arm with the Carb10) KS to rank up and run Carb 8/10 (this is longer term as it requires the duplication of Carb10, but somehow I've already got a crap-ton of Carb10 blue prints, soooo....) The above 2 plans are actually fairly expensive with medium bot rank ups costing over 2800 a-coins each. Ouch. This brings me to my next thoughts and question(s) The RG/LA Panther is boss, but I don't want another identical set-up of that. I try to keep one sniper build for when it's necessary, but I prefer brawling. Also, the Ares is my favorite tank (I like speed and it's the fastest along with other reasons), but I am LOVING the Guardian and Panther at R5. The abilities of these have always been super useful, but now they can take a punch...well, the Guardian can at least. I plan to double up the Carb12 on it in time. And I'd like to double up and move the SB12s over to another platform to replace the Ares (I know, no tanks...sacrilege!), but I don't know which to choose. The Guardian would be great for this because (when doubled) will have tank-level health and the ability is great for debilitating mechs before freezing them up. However, the synergism between the SB12s and the Panther stasis field makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. What would you do in my place? Please answer the specific question, but feel free to tell me how much of a cotton headed ninny muggins I am for ditching tanks altogether. Thanks you're not crazy for not running any tanks. However, when you level up your Guardian, it's a pseudo-tank. if you're playing solo, I prefer guardian 2x carb12. if squad, you could do sb12 + carb12 on either panther or guardian, I personally would do it panther. if you like brawling, you can run the attack-oriented panther build that I have; clearly I like it enough that I'm running two of them. I also have the option of switching MR out for an LA8 in squad I noticed that you had that setup doubled when we ran together the other day. I've tried it, but it didn't make me happy. I'm sure I need both weapons leveled a bit more and some time piloting them. Thanks for weighing in. I did see someone (trying to remember who it was, but they were very high level) that ran a ton of SB stuff. Double SB12 Panther. SB16/MR8 Panther and I think he had another SB16 mech too. I wanted to change his nickname to Mr. Freeze. lol |
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Post by punishingcossack on Jan 7, 2021 13:44:32 GMT -5
you're not crazy for not running any tanks. However, when you level up your Guardian, it's a pseudo-tank. if you're playing solo, I prefer guardian 2x carb12. if squad, you could do sb12 + carb12 on either panther or guardian, I personally would do it panther. if you like brawling, you can run the attack-oriented panther build that I have; clearly I like it enough that I'm running two of them. I also have the option of switching MR out for an LA8 in squad I noticed that you had that setup doubled when we ran together the other day. I've tried it, but it didn't make me happy. I'm sure I need both weapons leveled a bit more and some time piloting them. Thanks for weighing in. I did see someone (trying to remember who it was, but they were very high level) that ran a ton of SB stuff. Double SB12 Panther. SB16/MR8 Panther and I think he had another SB16 mech too. I wanted to change his nickname to Mr. Freeze. lol yea my panther build definitely has a learning curve because of the extremely different firing mechanics, and making quick and correct decisions about whether to fire one or both weapons. Mistakes (and missing RG shots) can be extremely costly b/c of the 10s reload for both weapons. You could also run two LA8 RG panthers, I've seen some high level players do that too. You could also do double LA10 on panther, that build is lethal in some situations (certain tourney maps) |
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 14, 2021 15:03:46 GMT -5
Wow, our hangars couldn't be more different!
I'm running:
Panther with SB12/PC8 with plans on running dual SB12
Killshot with RPG6 with plans of converting to MR8
Shadow with Jav6 with possible plan to convert to RPG6
Zephyr with MR8 with plan to run RG16 (very very close now)
The last slot in my hangar is currently hosting a base level MD. This helps bring down my hangar strength plus I'm getting practice on running a MD until I can start leveling it up. My eventual goal is to run it with RPG6 or Jav6 or maybe even TL6 to turn it into a true team player mech.
Our playstyles are completely different too cause I while I don't mind no tanks, you lack an indirect fire platform, aka no Javelin mechs. You once told me my Jav6 Shadow was a PITA, and you're right. You need a PITA mech too. It's great on open maps in Tournament and it's great early or late game in CPC. Early for capping CPs and knocking out other light mechs, late for grabbing CPs to turn the tide and take out low HP mechs guarding them.
Another possibility would be Jav6 MD so that you get easy gold medals for heals. I just started to run my MD and it's actually pretty fun and takes a completely different mindset. I notice you have a penchant for weapons that are 8EN and up, but don't knock the 6EN weapons as they can be quite useful too.
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Post by Deadeye on Jan 15, 2021 10:03:52 GMT -5
I have and use the Jav6s still on my KS, especially in Tournaments. I agree that PITAs are important, but I am counting on my specialty bots to be my PITAs. Zephyr and Guardian. Indirect fire weapons are good, but are not necessarily as powerful as some of the more direct fire weapons. I'll probably flip the Javs out on the KS when I need them. They're leveled at 4.7 right now and can be ranked up at any time. I think they're worth it, but I prefer the Carbs. We'll see though. It's on the back burner for sure.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 15, 2021 11:50:02 GMT -5
I don't have everything you are asking about... but I definitely swear by the SB 16 builds on the Panther.
I want a 2nd copy of that mech in order to run more aggressive builds on the 2nd one... but as my main defensive build, I LOVE the SB 16 plus Stasis Field options.
The second weapon is only slightly important on that build in regard to its purpose... and can allow you to change up whether you are semi Offensive or full on Defensive as needed. In Squads I like it more Defensive (TL 6 or even standoff weapons like Jav 6 or RM 8 if you like that sort of thing), but in solo, when you can't count on anyone, I like something a bit more deadly and direct (PC8 and MR8 work best for me, but since I've concreted Killy for my MR 8s for now, PC8 is what I use and it works well... adds a nice sustained damage option for either suppressive fire or shield stripping. Carbs go better on Zep and Guardian, like you have already stated, IMO).
That may or may not directly answer your question about that... but all I know is that for now, I love it, even when running with 3000 SP teammates. I can protect them and set up kills for them, as well as single-handedly save beacons in CPC, with little effort. Just a thought!
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Post by Deadeye on Jan 15, 2021 12:37:10 GMT -5
I've decided to replace the Ares with a Panther. I think the cheapest option (based on A-coins) will be to get the SB16 and run it with an MR8, but I still want to try the double SB12. Eventually, I'll be able to try both though.
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 15, 2021 12:58:46 GMT -5
I've decided to replace the Ares with a Panther. I think the cheapest option (based on A-coins) will be to get the SB16 and run it with an MR8, but I still want to try the double SB12. Eventually, I'll be able to try both though. How about SB12/CB12 on the Panther? |
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Post by Deadeye on Jan 15, 2021 13:03:58 GMT -5
I've decided to replace the Ares with a Panther. I think the cheapest option (based on A-coins) will be to get the SB16 and run it with an MR8, but I still want to try the double SB12. Eventually, I'll be able to try both though. How about SB12/CB12 on the Panther? I've run this! It's good, but it's kind of an in-between where it's not ideal at any distance. I started running it like an SB/MR combo. I will freeze someone from a distance, then shoot the Carb so it's more accurate. Lot's of corner shooting with the SB. Edit: I've run this on the Guardian, sorry. The Panther should work the same though mostly, just less need for cover. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 15, 2021 14:56:17 GMT -5
How about SB12/CB12 on the Panther? I've run this! It's good, but it's kind of an in-between where it's not ideal at any distance. I started running it like an SB/MR combo. I will freeze someone from a distance, then shoot the Carb so it's more accurate. Lot's of corner shooting with the SB. Edit: I've run this on the Guardian, sorry. The Panther should work the same though mostly, just less need for cover. The CB12 is in the Shop today. But, it's a whopping $74. Ouch...too rich for my blood. If it had come out on Dec 26, I probably would have picked it up... I'm doing SB12/PC8 and it's not bad. It's a fairly decent brawler but I still get creamed by Killshots. |
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Post by Deadeye on Jan 15, 2021 15:09:35 GMT -5
I've run this! It's good, but it's kind of an in-between where it's not ideal at any distance. I started running it like an SB/MR combo. I will freeze someone from a distance, then shoot the Carb so it's more accurate. Lot's of corner shooting with the SB. Edit: I've run this on the Guardian, sorry. The Panther should work the same though mostly, just less need for cover. The CB12 is in the Shop today. But, it's a whopping $74. Ouch...too rich for my blood. If it had come out on Dec 26, I probably would have picked it up... I'm doing SB12/PC8 and it's not bad. It's a fairly decent brawler but I still get creamed by Killshots. Panther will always get creamed by KS inside 40m, no matter the levels. The Panther is so low on HP and the KS dash is super powerful. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Jan 15, 2021 15:34:17 GMT -5
I've run this! It's good, but it's kind of an in-between where it's not ideal at any distance. I started running it like an SB/MR combo. I will freeze someone from a distance, then shoot the Carb so it's more accurate. Lot's of corner shooting with the SB. Edit: I've run this on the Guardian, sorry. The Panther should work the same though mostly, just less need for cover. The CB12 is in the Shop today. But, it's a whopping $74. Ouch...too rich for my blood. If it had come out on Dec 26, I probably would have picked it up... I'm doing SB12/PC8 and it's not bad. It's a fairly decent brawler but I still get creamed by Killshots. This is what I’m running on my Panther now, too, and I agree, it’s not bad. Not great, but not bad. It’s ready to get ranked up to R5 once I gather another 700 a-coins, and then I’m gonna try SB16 with the PC8 and see how that goes. PCs are only R4, so they could use a bit of a kick in the pants, like almost everything else in the garage. Even so, I still kinda like the PCs better than the carbs. Very disappointed in those carbs, for all the a-coins they cost me. I get it and I appreciate that these higher-end weapons don’t break the game; but then, it shouldn’t cost so damn much for something that basically just looks and sounds a little different. |
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 15, 2021 15:41:45 GMT -5
I think that while the damage between the CB8 and the PC8 is similar, the CB8 has the edge in DPS in that it unloads faster while the PC8 has the edge on maximum range. Plus, the PC series ends at 8 while the CBs go to 12.
But yeah...that is one gripe I have about the game in that the Prototype class of weapons are so freaking expensive. I don't regret the RG though. It's fun and challenging and it actually opens up some range options for my Zephyr. Plus, if/when I rank up my Zephyr, I may throw a low end weapon on the other arm so that I still have something to shoot with. Like maybe a SG2 or something that has potential for some close range damage or maybe the TL2 to give my RG more oomph.
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Post by mechtout on Jan 15, 2021 17:54:18 GMT -5
I've decided to replace the Ares with a Panther. I think the cheapest option (based on A-coins) will be to get the SB16 and run it with an MR8, but I still want to try the double SB12. Eventually, I'll be able to try both though. when you get the SB16, try it with the TL6, really liking that set up right now. Acrux is running it too which is why i like squading with him, we be roasting lol |
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Post by mechtout on Jan 15, 2021 17:57:25 GMT -5
I've run this! It's good, but it's kind of an in-between where it's not ideal at any distance. I started running it like an SB/MR combo. I will freeze someone from a distance, then shoot the Carb so it's more accurate. Lot's of corner shooting with the SB. Edit: I've run this on the Guardian, sorry. The Panther should work the same though mostly, just less need for cover. The CB12 is in the Shop today. But, it's a whopping $74. Ouch...too rich for my blood. If it had come out on Dec 26, I probably would have picked it up... I'm doing SB12/PC8 and it's not bad. It's a fairly decent brawler but I still get creamed by Killshots. if you run the SB on the Panther, you can increase you chances of getting away from a KS, roast them with the SB to slow them down so you can stay outside of 30M, then throw the stasis shield and continue to roast them when you are a safe distance away. they will be in stasis so long they might eject the bots lol |
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Post by chedro on Jan 15, 2021 19:54:04 GMT -5
Finding panther with sb16 and la8 is dope. Insane at 5.1. Tournaments with long maps, it kills.
I don’t have the rg16 yet. Almost there.
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Post by Deadeye on Jan 18, 2021 8:43:19 GMT -5
Finding panther with sb16 and la8 is dope. Insane at 5.1. Tournaments with long maps, it kills. I don’t have the rg16 yet. Almost there.  |
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 18, 2021 9:22:28 GMT -5
The CB12 is in the Shop today. But, it's a whopping $74. Ouch...too rich for my blood. If it had come out on Dec 26, I probably would have picked it up... I'm doing SB12/PC8 and it's not bad. It's a fairly decent brawler but I still get creamed by Killshots. if you run the SB on the Panther, you can increase you chances of getting away from a KS, roast them with the SB to slow them down so you can stay outside of 30M, then throw the stasis shield and continue to roast them when you are a safe distance away. they will be in stasis so long they might eject the bots lol Good point. I can keep Killshots away beyond the 40m range and at that range, my SB does maximum damage. If they get tin 40m range, they can still activate their ability so it's a fair fight. |
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Post by punishingcossack on Jan 18, 2021 13:20:13 GMT -5
if you run the SB on the Panther, you can increase you chances of getting away from a KS, roast them with the SB to slow them down so you can stay outside of 30M, then throw the stasis shield and continue to roast them when you are a safe distance away. they will be in stasis so long they might eject the bots lol Good point. I can keep Killshots away beyond the 40m range and at that range, my SB does maximum damage. If they get tin 40m range, they can still activate their ability so it's a fair fight. if they're frozen and they dash and hit you (and you survive), you can flank them so they can't keep shooting you |
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