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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 21, 2020 12:31:57 GMT -5
So... I received a giftcard for 50$ for the Apple store. Yes, I had that 'buy it for 49.99' deal and did it... Got the Carb 8 set  I def think they are worth it. But they are not OP if your enemies are leveled. You have to play it smart. They are nasty against early Tourney opponents, though. Low leveled Jugs literally deflate like a balloon if you are within optimal range (which is pretty short). Anyway, I want to say one thing about getting them with Real Money... I don't regret it in the least since I didn't really have that money to begin with, but after War Robots I am soured on spending big bucks on any other mobile f2p game, personally, so I wouldn't have done it without the giftcard. I no longer have the time to spend on games in order to make expensive purchases cost effective... but if I did, my tune might be different. I will add play style and tactics and stuff to the tactic thread, but so far, I would def save up the A Coins for them after using them for a couple of games. They are NOT gamebreaking and I still get more kills from MR8 KS and SB16+TL4 Panther due to the range increase of both weapons, and possibly my familiarity with them. That said, I am still trying out different bots and will try some mixed weapon setups, later. I moved the MRs to the Ares and put the Carbs on the KS for now. I think I like this build... but have only tried then on a Guardian, else-wise. Anyway, just wanted to share since I was NOT expecting that card (random job reward for my department... didn't even know we were in the running for it!) and let y'all know that they are good. I don't consider them OP against CPC opponents that are my level as they can absolutely be countered by playing smart, but at the same time, yes, they do a lot of damage in a short time... perfect for killing/maiming Tanks. Shadows in stealth can be a bear to aim at though... Keep your shotties away from me!  |
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Post by Deadeye on Oct 21, 2020 12:40:05 GMT -5
So... I received a giftcard for 50$ for the Apple store. Yes, I had that 'buy it for 49.99' deal and did it... Got the Carb 8 set I def think they are worth it. But they are not OP if your enemies are leveled. You have to play it smart. They are nasty against early Tourney opponents, though. Low leveled Jugs literally deflate like a balloon if you are within optimal range (which is pretty short). Anyway, I want to say one thing about getting them with Real Money... I don't regret it in the least since I didn't really have that money to begin with, but after War Robots I am soured on spending big bucks on any other mobile f2p game, personally, so I wouldn't have done it without the giftcard. I no longer have the time to spend on games in order to make expensive purchases cost effective... but if I did, my tune might be different. I will add play style and tactics and stuff to the tactic thread, but so far, I would def save up the A Coins for them after using them for a couple of games. They are NOT gamebreaking and I still get more kills from MR8 KS and SB16+TL4 Panther due to the range increase of both weapons, and possibly my familiarity with them. That said, I am still trying out different bots and will try some mixed weapon setups, later. I moved the MRs to the Ares and put the Carbs on the KS for now. I think I like this build... but have only tried then on a Guardian, else-wise. Anyway, just wanted to share since I was NOT expecting that card (random job reward for my department... didn't even know we were in the running for it!) and let y'all know that they are good. I don't consider them OP against CPC opponents that are my level as they can absolutely be countered by playing smart, but at the same time, yes, they do a lot of damage in a short time... perfect for killing/maiming Tanks. Shadows in stealth can be a bear to aim at though... Keep your shotties away from me! This is great! I am so close (I can taste it!) that I almost ponied up $10 to finish the deal and get them before today's heat. The map is difficult to deal with for MRs in certain situations because of the long reload. In the end though, I figured I could wait a day or 2 longer and just continue the path. I will ask this as I am lazy and don't want to go looking for it. What is the benefit increase at rank up to R6? Is it improved damage?  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 21, 2020 12:45:42 GMT -5
Apparently, the Rank up gets you a general stat increase... but I don't know what stats.
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Post by Deadeye on Oct 21, 2020 12:59:54 GMT -5
I'll take it! I've got 8 or 9 cards, so I'll probably level them a bit and see where it goes. Thanks friend!
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Post by Redfiend on Oct 21, 2020 13:04:49 GMT -5
Deadeye there's no non-damage benefit to ranking the Carbine 8 to 6. It's just access to the last stretch of upgrades and the damage that comes with that. I'd consider putting off R6 on them because the coins are better spent on 10 en+ weapons and bots, for the benefit of a second copy. ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 just damage. The other paired weapons all start at lower ranks, and therefore have a unique bonus attached to them that stays the same from R5 to R6. Outside of weapons and mechs that grant a second copy on R6, it's just the last stack of damage numbers from 5:7 to 6:7
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 28, 2020 13:55:42 GMT -5
Well I’m about 1/3 of the way there. You guys that have been running carbs for awhile now, what are your thoughts? Do I continue to herniate myself not spending a-coins on rank-ups and keep saving for a pair? Are they worth it?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 28, 2020 14:01:59 GMT -5
Well I’m about 1/3 of the way there. You guys that have been running carbs for awhile now, what are your thoughts? Do I continue to herniate myself not spending a-coins on rank-ups and keep saving for a pair? Are they worth it? To me they are... think of them as a little bit closer ranged, HIGH accuracy (like matrix bending the bullet path to hit high accuracy), fast firing, version of the Pulse Cannon. Mechs that do well with the PCs will do well with the Carbs. They aren't always going to kill a high leveled mech with one mag though... so don't treat them like OP weapons. In low level tourneys, sure, OP as hell. Once R4s and R5s are involved, though, they pull their weight but don't overwhelm most builds, so you still have to be smart.
I like mine on the Ares, right now.
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Post by Deadeye on Oct 28, 2020 16:19:44 GMT -5
Well I’m about 1/3 of the way there. You guys that have been running carbs for awhile now, what are your thoughts? Do I continue to herniate myself not spending a-coins on rank-ups and keep saving for a pair? Are they worth it? Totally worth it. Everything ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 said is true. I've had outstanding success on today's Fortune Towers map with them on my Guardian. They are excellent for finishing off nearly dead mechs that are hiding. Excellent kill stealing weapon. I was on the top level in one match near the end and there were 4 mechs below me at various levels of partial health. Full clips, I dropped down, used the Guardian ability and took out 3 of them before dying. It was the end of the match, so I didn't really care, but it worked like a dream. I almost certainly wouldn't have been able to do that with MR8s because they weren't grouped close enough together. I had to finish them one at a time. Ultimately, I think they'll be best on a Zephyr, but they're outstanding. They work very well at range because of the accuracy, however, they reach their full potential at brawling range because their "ideal range" is under 30 meters so the multipliers start adding up. Throw in attacks from the side and back, and that's why I think the Zephyr will be so deadly with them. You can freeze unknowing souls before you they know you're there and raise their shield or turn towards you. All the multipliers! Mwahahaha! BTW, I like them so much, I'm now saving for the Carb12 to pair on my Guardian.  |
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Post by Redfiend on Oct 28, 2020 20:04:15 GMT -5
DeadeyeRemember, you only get 1 carb 12. Your guardian probably isn't max rank anyway, but throwing it on with a Missile rack is effective for the burst/cleanup.
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Post by Deadeye on Oct 29, 2020 9:51:56 GMT -5
Deadeye Remember, you only get 1 carb 12. Your guardian probably isn't max rank anyway, but throwing it on with a Missile rack is effective for the burst/cleanup. I'll run the Carb8/12 combo on the Guardian and start saving for the Carb 10 while I rank up the Ares or Zephyr to 5. Then I can run all the Carbs simultaneously until I get the second copies of the 12 and 10. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Oct 30, 2020 10:20:22 GMT -5
Anybody running carbs on a Panther? Juggy? Just curious. I’ve got a few EN16 options when the time comes, and those are two that are ready for them right now. Ares is on the doorstep at 3.7, but I need to get the carbs first before that gets bumped up.
Also wondering if it’s worth skipping right to a carb 10 or 12 first instead of the pair of 8’s ... a single 10 I could slap on the little ball of hate Lancer right away, then use it later with a 12 on whatever gets ranked up enough for it. But then that would mean having to save up another 7500 a-coins, and I don’t know if I (or this forum) would survive that. I’m leaning heavily toward getting the 8’s now (now being whenever I’ve hoarded enough a-coins), but I haven’t completely ruled out the other options yet.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 30, 2020 11:12:29 GMT -5
Anybody running carbs on a Panther? Juggy? Just curious. I’ve got a few EN16 options when the time comes, and those are two that are ready for them right now. Ares is on the doorstep at 3.7, but I need to get the carbs first before that gets bumped up. Also wondering if it’s worth skipping right to a carb 10 or 12 first instead of the pair of 8’s ... a single 10 I could slap on the little ball of hate Lancer right away, then use it later with a 12 on whatever gets ranked up enough for it. But then that would mean having to save up another 7500 a-coins, and I don’t know if I (or this forum) would survive that. I’m leaning heavily toward getting the 8’s now (now being whenever I’ve hoarded enough a-coins), but I haven’t completely ruled out the other options yet. EDIT... I have ran them on both the Panther and the Juggs... and they worked well for both. Like I said somewhere else (maybe this thread?), if the bot is good with PC8s then Carbs should be a natural fit.
As far as getting the other Carbs... IDK... that's a preference issue, I think.
I want both a 10 and a 12, to go along with my 8s, in the long run. I def think a Carb 10 Lancer would be fun though... Personally, I can't really tell what would be the best to go with... since I only have the 8s... beyond going with what would be the most enjoyable for you, that is. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Oct 30, 2020 14:15:16 GMT -5
Just used 'em on a Panther again... and I will double down on them being fine on this bot.
On today's Tourney map... though... I will say that they are NOT the best weapon choice. I played some with Ares and some with Panther. All of those chokepoints might be sorta good... but it works for both the Reds and the Blues. As a result... Blues blocked SO many of my shots... 
Had to basically hug the elevated side lanes to get good angles... which opens you up to a lot of fire. For the Ares, that was fine... for the Panther... was a little bit more complicated. Still worked though.
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Post by balrog89 on Oct 30, 2020 16:50:24 GMT -5
I am close to getting enough A-Coins for Carbine 8s. I will be skipping over Missile Racks if I do it though. Really just saved for them so it didn't hang over my head forever. And it gave me a good sense of my A-Coin earning rate (8+9k a month) which is more than I'd thought it was. It recently occurred to me though that I could just do the 9K coin for 1M credit deal instead, get the MR8s, level up a bunch of my weapons (most are around 3.1 now) try out a few new ones (Thermals, Shotguns, MD) and then stockpile the rest of my credits. Need to crunch the numbers to see just what it'll yield. I'm not in a rush to level my hangar so the idea of investing in variety while all those options are still relevant has appeal. Still, I think I'll probably just get the Carbines. Mainly because I started this project and I don't like switching horses midstream. And while I don't want the Carbs pushing the rest of my hangar too far up, I don't have to play them much. Figure I can hold them mostly in reserve, using them in the later matches in a tourney heat when the going gets tougher. Seems like it should work well economically. Anyway, mainly just thinking out loud. Efficiency vs variety... Choices, choices... Do not, I repeat, do not skip the MR8s. PC8s outperform the CB8 and MR8s are way beyond both. |
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Post by S1E1 on Oct 30, 2020 20:42:27 GMT -5
I am close to getting enough A-Coins for Carbine 8s. I will be skipping over Missile Racks if I do it though. Really just saved for them so it didn't hang over my head forever. And it gave me a good sense of my A-Coin earning rate (8+9k a month) which is more than I'd thought it was. It recently occurred to me though that I could just do the 9K coin for 1M credit deal instead, get the MR8s, level up a bunch of my weapons (most are around 3.1 now) try out a few new ones (Thermals, Shotguns, MD) and then stockpile the rest of my credits. Need to crunch the numbers to see just what it'll yield. I'm not in a rush to level my hangar so the idea of investing in variety while all those options are still relevant has appeal. Still, I think I'll probably just get the Carbines. Mainly because I started this project and I don't like switching horses midstream. And while I don't want the Carbs pushing the rest of my hangar too far up, I don't have to play them much. Figure I can hold them mostly in reserve, using them in the later matches in a tourney heat when the going gets tougher. Seems like it should work well economically. Anyway, mainly just thinking out loud. Efficiency vs variety... Choices, choices... Do not, I repeat, do not skip the MR8s. PC8s outperform the CB8 and MR8s are way beyond both. I ended up getting both. Used the A-Coins for the C8s and did the $15.99 deal for MR8s. Haven't real liked PC8s tbh, but I haven't levelled mine at all. Plan on taking them to 3.7 and seeing if how they perform then, but in the meantime I'm really liking the Carbines. They've got some shortcomings but in a balanced way - overall they're a good weapon. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 1, 2020 12:18:32 GMT -5
Do not, I repeat, do not skip the MR8s. PC8s outperform the CB8 and MR8s are way beyond both. I ended up getting both. Used the A-Coins for the C8s and did the $15.99 deal for MR8s. Haven't real liked PC8s tbh, but I haven't levelled mine at all. Plan on taking them to 3.7 and seeing if how they perform then, but in the meantime I'm really liking the Carbines. They've got some shortcomings but in a balanced way - overall they're a good weapon. PC8s came alive for me at R4. Getting that extra accuracy helps. 3.7 won't be the best deciding level IMO. They are worth the rank up, IMO. |
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Post by Redfiend on Nov 1, 2020 13:28:02 GMT -5
At R5 pulses are a hose like Auto Cannons. Still have the shortest reload in the game too.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Nov 3, 2020 7:46:26 GMT -5
This is my last chance to change my mind. After this morning’s 250 a-coin gift from the devs, I’m exactly 70 away from a pair of carbine 8’s. Is it really worth the investment? I have a couple of mechs and a couple of weapons that could be ranked up to R4 with all that wealth, including PC8’s. The problem with ranking up the mechs is, I have no weapons on hand to take advantage of the increased energy levels, so either way, it’s gonna be awhile before I reap those rewards anyway, where I can use the carbs on a number of mechs right now.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 3, 2020 9:03:56 GMT -5
This is my last chance to change my mind. After this morning’s 250 a-coin gift from the devs, I’m exactly 70 away from a pair of carbine 8’s. Is it really worth the investment? I have a couple of mechs and a couple of weapons that could be ranked up to R4 with all that wealth, including PC8’s. The problem with ranking up the mechs is, I have no weapons on hand to take advantage of the increased energy levels, so either way, it’s gonna be awhile before I reap those rewards anyway, where I can use the carbs on a number of mechs right now. To me, it comes down to "are you going to get them eventually?" If so, get them now, while you have the A Coins. It's easier to save for those upgrades that are 1.5k or 2k, than it is to save the cost for Carbs. I think they are worth it. Not OP... but still very good right out of the box. They take a little getting used to, but I haven't taken them out of my hangar since getting them. They sit on my Ares for now, and easily fill the role that the PC8s filled, previously. Carbs are more "bursty."
Remember... they have a shorter optimal range... but can still pick off lamed mechs at decent distances. They may go well on a Guardian if you are committed to ambush tactics.
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Post by Koalabear on Nov 3, 2020 9:52:50 GMT -5
If I had the A-coins saved up, I probably would get the Carbine 8s. How long did you save for it?
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Post by punishingcossack on Nov 3, 2020 13:06:31 GMT -5
This is my last chance to change my mind. After this morning’s 250 a-coin gift from the devs, I’m exactly 70 away from a pair of carbine 8’s. Is it really worth the investment? I have a couple of mechs and a couple of weapons that could be ranked up to R4 with all that wealth, including PC8’s. The problem with ranking up the mechs is, I have no weapons on hand to take advantage of the increased energy levels, so either way, it’s gonna be awhile before I reap those rewards anyway, where I can use the carbs on a number of mechs right now. To me, it comes down to "are you going to get them eventually?" If so, get them now, while you have the A Coins. It's easier to save for those upgrades that are 1.5k or 2k, than it is to save the cost for Carbs. I think they are worth it. Not OP... but still very good right out of the box. They take a little getting used to, but I haven't taken them out of my hangar since getting them. They sit on my Ares for now, and easily fill the role that the PC8s filled, previously. Carbs are more "bursty."
Remember... they have a shorter optimal range... but can still pick off lamed mechs at decent distances. They may go well on a Guardian if you are committed to ambush tactics.
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Post by balrog89 on Nov 3, 2020 13:49:33 GMT -5
Do not, I repeat, do not skip the MR8s. PC8s outperform the CB8 and MR8s are way beyond both. I ended up getting both. Used the A-Coins for the C8s and did the $15.99 deal for MR8s. Haven't real liked PC8s tbh, but I haven't levelled mine at all. Plan on taking them to 3.7 and seeing if how they perform then, but in the meantime I'm really liking the Carbines. They've got some shortcomings but in a balanced way - overall they're a good weapon. Back in the War Robots days, I never thought I would say this to you but......you are a whale to me  |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 3, 2020 14:24:52 GMT -5
I ended up getting both. Used the A-Coins for the C8s and did the $15.99 deal for MR8s. Haven't real liked PC8s tbh, but I haven't levelled mine at all. Plan on taking them to 3.7 and seeing if how they perform then, but in the meantime I'm really liking the Carbines. They've got some shortcomings but in a balanced way - overall they're a good weapon. Back in the War Robots days, I never thought I would say this to you but......you are a whale to me Hell... that makes me a freaking Blue Whale then!
Their deals aren't bad... especially for folk like me who don't get to grind very often. I don't get the "upgrade _ weapon" deals though, and besides a gift card purchase for the C8s, I won't spend on anything big. I'm content with what I have atm.
I do still buy the 4.99 500 Acoins + Prodigy Crate when I notice it, though... as a means to support the devs and make up for my minimal play time. It's my version of paying for premium in War Robots. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Nov 3, 2020 14:27:55 GMT -5
If I had the A-coins saved up, I probably would get the Carbine 8s. How long did you save for it? It’s been a little over 2 weeks since I decided to not up-rank anything and squirrel them away for this. I confess, I’ve also grabbed a few $4.99 prodigy crates along the way, and had a couple of marathon tournaments to stay on top of my bracket for some big payouts, neither of which I plan on repeating again any time soon. But this was a big chunk, and I treated myself a little for my birthday. So I think one more good tournament finish tomorrow oughtta push me over the top. And then all hell will be breaking loose. |
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Post by mechtout on Nov 3, 2020 14:47:05 GMT -5
i literally stopped upgrading anything and now have 500K credits and almost 4K A coins. Have a couple of things over rank 4 but most are 3. Come on carbines and Zephyr baby!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 3, 2020 14:50:49 GMT -5
To me, it comes down to "are you going to get them eventually?" If so, get them now, while you have the A Coins. It's easier to save for those upgrades that are 1.5k or 2k, than it is to save the cost for Carbs. I think they are worth it. Not OP... but still very good right out of the box. They take a little getting used to, but I haven't taken them out of my hangar since getting them. They sit on my Ares for now, and easily fill the role that the PC8s filled, previously. Carbs are more "bursty."
Remember... they have a shorter optimal range... but can still pick off lamed mechs at decent distances. They may go well on a Guardian if you are committed to ambush tactics.
a lot of top players run hybrid carb 8 + pulse 8 builds on KS. Both weapons are endgame viable. Haven't tried that yet, but it's on my to-do list.  |
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Post by Munki on Nov 3, 2020 16:36:09 GMT -5
If I had the A-coins saved up, I probably would get the Carbine 8s. How long did you save for it? It’s been a little over 2 weeks since I decided to not up-rank anything and squirrel them away for this. I confess, I’ve also grabbed a few $4.99 prodigy crates along the way, and had a couple of marathon tournaments to stay on top of my bracket for some big payouts, neither of which I plan on repeating again any time soon. But this was a big chunk, and I treated myself a little for my birthday. So I think one more good tournament finish tomorrow oughtta push me over the top. And then all hell will be breaking loose. Happy belated Birthday, Danny! |
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Post by Munki on Nov 3, 2020 16:40:09 GMT -5
i literally stopped upgrading anything and now have 500K credits and almost 4K A coins. Have a couple of things over rank 4 but most are 3. Come on carbines and Zephyr baby! I have up until now resisted upgrading or purchasing any mech or equipment beyond 3.7. Got nearly everything that I have unlocked to the 3.7 limit. Did make one splurge purchase of $100 worth of A-Coins and used 9000 of them to get 1 million credits. Hated having the blueprints but not the credits to upgrade. I note that Rank 4 upgrades will eat credits and am following Redfiend advice about crossing rank thresholds before having all used equipment ready for rank up. |
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Post by S1E1 on Nov 3, 2020 17:25:15 GMT -5
I ended up getting both. Used the A-Coins for the C8s and did the $15.99 deal for MR8s. Haven't real liked PC8s tbh, but I haven't levelled mine at all. Plan on taking them to 3.7 and seeing if how they perform then, but in the meantime I'm really liking the Carbines. They've got some shortcomings but in a balanced way - overall they're a good weapon. Back in the War Robots days, I never thought I would say this to you but......you are a whale to me (rofl)   |
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Post by Redfiend on Nov 3, 2020 18:39:38 GMT -5
i literally stopped upgrading anything and now have 500K credits and almost 4K A coins. Have a couple of things over rank 4 but most are 3. Come on carbines and Zephyr baby! I have up until now resisted upgrading or purchasing any mech or equipment beyond 3.7. Got nearly everything that I have unlocked to the 3.7 limit. Did make one splurge purchase of $100 worth of A-Coins and used 9000 of them to get 1 million credits. Hated having the blueprints but not the credits to upgrade. I note that Rank 4 upgrades will eat credits and am following Redfiend advice about crossing rank thresholds before having all used equipment ready for rank up. I own EVERYTHING that starts lower than R4. I'd say bringing mediums to R4 first would be the most immediately beneficial route. Until you can pop off with Carbines, stasis beam and Mortars are pretty much the only 20EN setups a heavy will be able to take advantage of. Light bots are prohibitively expensive to rank up as well. I've started finishing R3 items and bringing them up to R4 in order of cost, because process of elimination>Impulse in my book. 4 cost weapons -> 10 cost weapons ->6/12 cost weapons -> 8 cost weapons -> Heavy bots -> medium bots -> light bots. Very time consuming, and pretty much the opposite of my advice lol |
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