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Post by trustmeimdoctor on Nov 13, 2016 11:57:56 GMT -5
I just had played 3 games in what I believe was low silver (no rhinos). I purchased my 5th slot and added a 5/7 Carnage to go with my three 5/7 Galahads and one 6/6 Rogatka. The next two matches I played were both in what I believe to be low gold (4+ Rhinos in each).
This just had me wondering if maybe adding my 5th slot could have done that. Sometimes matchmaking will throw me wherever it wants so I really don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 12:03:57 GMT -5
I can promise you the carnage had more of an effect than your 5th slot.
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Post by trustmeimdoctor on Nov 13, 2016 12:16:50 GMT -5
Hmm.. I guess I didn't think the Carnage would be rated higher than my Galahads.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 12:30:31 GMT -5
I don't believe it's rated higher exactly, just that a wsp bot always has an effect no matter what else is in your hangar. Especially for a carnage for some reason. I've used carnage extensively and this seems consistent.
I've had my 5th slot for maybe 6 months and there doesn't seem to be a MM penalty for number of slots. Many players better and more experienced than I can corroborate this.
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Post by blognio on Nov 13, 2016 13:23:37 GMT -5
Lol why would adding a fifth slot bump you up?
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Post by Curry Pot on Nov 13, 2016 14:00:07 GMT -5
It's also a matter of luck. Oftentimes I will face opponents who have no idea what they are doing and ended up past low silver by following recommended upgrades, and the next match I will run into a maxed out clan that murders everyone on my team in less than three minutes. The carnage should not have affected your hangar rating, but sometimes MM gets chaotic when you make changes to your hangar.
My own fifth slot does not seem to have any bearing on matchmaking. I get matched up with players with crappy bots and three slots almost as often as I get matched up with maxed out five slot hangars, and a lot of MM just depends on who is online at the same moment.
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Post by trustmeimdoctor on Nov 13, 2016 14:02:07 GMT -5
Lol why would adding a fifth slot bump you up? I'm not offering any theories here. I was just asking a question. Would you like to participate in the discussion or be a troll? |
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Post by trustmeimdoctor on Nov 13, 2016 14:09:04 GMT -5
It's also a matter of luck. Oftentimes I will face opponents who have no idea what they are doing and ended up past low silver by following recommended upgrades, and the next match I will run into a maxed out clan that murders everyone on my team in less than three minutes. The carnage should not have affected your hangar rating, but sometimes MM gets chaotic when you make changes to your hangar. My own fifth slot does not seem to have any bearing on matchmaking. I get matched up with players with crappy bots and three slots almost as often as I get matched up with maxed out five slot hangars, and a lot of MM just depends on who is online at the same moment. Thanks. From what I had read I didn't think Carnage would change much either. I'll try it out some more and see what's going on. |
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Post by trustmeimdoctor on Nov 13, 2016 15:16:32 GMT -5
The last 5 or so games have been back to silver. I just had a couple games where I got pushed higher I guess.
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Post by blognio on Nov 13, 2016 18:38:01 GMT -5
Lol why would adding a fifth slot bump you up? I'm not offering any theories here. I was just asking a question. Would you like to participate in the discussion or be a troll? Sorry! didn't mean to be mean If you want my thoughts, i would say that you might've been to good for your old tier. THat may impact you |
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Post by moody on Nov 13, 2016 23:04:24 GMT -5
Personal opinion, the 5th slot should have some effect on MM. It's a bit annoying that it doesn't.
I know that not everyone always needs it, but it most games I have I reach my 5th bot by the end.
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Post by Zhøu™ on Nov 13, 2016 23:07:24 GMT -5
Personal opinion, the 5th slot should have some effect on MM. It's a bit annoying that it doesn't. I know that not everyone always needs it, but it most games I have I reach my 5th bot by the end. If it does, more people wouldn't want to get the 5th slot, which is so essentially in high level matches. |
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Post by boomsplat on Nov 13, 2016 23:25:36 GMT -5
At a minimum, the 5th slot has an indirect impact on MM....with that 5th bot, your win % should go up all things being equal (ie, you don't buy a higher tier bot to fill that 5th slot). Win % has an impact on MM with every 10 points above 50% being a factor in moving you up tiers. A 5th slot directly impacting MM is not something I've heard mentioned in discussions on how MM works.
''Tis a mystery!"
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Post by moody on Nov 13, 2016 23:44:35 GMT -5
A fifth slot would have to have a pretty minimal impact if it did effect Matchmaker though. Each slot would be logarithmicaly (sp?) less effective. Say 60% for the second slot, 40% for the third 20% for the fourth and 10% for the fifth.
That would mean that a 4 slot hanger could have 10% better bots, and a 3 slot could have 30% better bots. But it gets ridiculous when you have a one slot hanger with 130% better bot.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 14, 2016 0:20:30 GMT -5
A fifth slot would have to have a pretty minimal impact if it did effect Matchmaker though. Each slot would be logarithmicaly (sp?) less effective. Say 60% for the second slot, 40% for the third 20% for the fourth and 10% for the fifth. That would mean that a 4 slot hanger could have 10% better bots, and a 3 slot could have 30% better bots. But it gets ridiculous when you have a one slot hanger with 130% better bot. Slots have zero effect on mm. |
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Post by moody on Nov 14, 2016 0:40:59 GMT -5
A fifth slot would have to have a pretty minimal impact if it did effect Matchmaker though. Each slot would be logarithmicaly (sp?) less effective. Say 60% for the second slot, 40% for the third 20% for the fourth and 10% for the fifth. That would mean that a 4 slot hanger could have 10% better bots, and a 3 slot could have 30% better bots. But it gets ridiculous when you have a one slot hanger with 130% better bot. Slots have zero effect on mm. I know. I was being theoretical |
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Post by josette2 on Nov 14, 2016 0:41:05 GMT -5
I just had played 3 games in what I believe was low silver (no rhinos). I purchased my 5th slot and added a 5/7 Carnage to go with my three 5/7 Galahads and one 6/6 Rogatka. The next two matches I played were both in what I believe to be low gold (4+ Rhinos in each). This just had me wondering if maybe adding my 5th slot could have done that. Sometimes matchmaking will throw me wherever it wants so I really don't know. Your galahads dont belong in silver I assure you. |
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Nov 14, 2016 2:10:14 GMT -5
I was recently running a 4/6-7, med bot hanger. (5 slot). Fairly consistent MM, the occasional gep/mag death squads w would appear - but you get used that. Do you time & move the hell up in tier!
I added Galahad & MM went off on a bipolar tirade for a while. With my play I can say I can see averages:
* 10 day medal count runs 800-1200 consistently
* 1800 victories
Just as strange, I added my new Rhino & it seemed to have a lvling effect (bought on same day). Grinded alot during pumpkin season & just kept saving hoping for a magic pumpkin - never happened. I am now consistently in low gold. Bot levels are Rhino 4 & Galahad going to 6, Rest of hvys are all 6, almost all weapons are 7.
I am told I will stay in low gold moving weapons up to lvl 9 (hope so). Plan is:
High Silver @ 4/9
Low gold @ 6/9
-that will be some time down the road cause I dont have great capper yet (Galahad lvl 5) and still learning to pilot a Rhino
Just gotta add -
**If I could hang license plate on the Rhino it would read
'NORVERS'
'N2DEEP'
'GOESS8'
'IDNTTRN'
'DNTFLNKME' 2 many spaces but
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Post by 《₩hirl》 on Nov 14, 2016 5:46:54 GMT -5
I'm thinking your 5th slot has indirectly affected your MM, that extra bot makes a world of difference to play be it 3rd 4th and/or 5th.
MM may not weigh slots, but extra slots bring more playtime by being on the field longer, more diverse and strategic playtime when on the field, which adds up to a higher winrate. Also extra field time equals higher damage count. The jury seems to still be out on that one but I thought it was worth a mention.
Theres my theory, will happily supply the grains of salt.
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Post by couchtrader on Nov 14, 2016 6:47:35 GMT -5
Slots does not affect MM. Replace your Carnage with something else and you'll see a change in gameplay. I have tested all sorts of combination on a Carnage and have never been in a match lower than gold. From experience, I start getting its' values worth with a 7-9 setup.
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Post by trustmeimdoctor on Nov 14, 2016 21:48:50 GMT -5
I just had played 3 games in what I believe was low silver (no rhinos). I purchased my 5th slot and added a 5/7 Carnage to go with my three 5/7 Galahads and one 6/6 Rogatka. The next two matches I played were both in what I believe to be low gold (4+ Rhinos in each). This just had me wondering if maybe adding my 5th slot could have done that. Sometimes matchmaking will throw me wherever it wants so I really don't know. Your galahads dont belong in silver I assure you. My Galahads do wonderfully in silver, but I do have plans to exit. I just want to get the right setup before I begin that journey. |
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Post by trustmeimdoctor on Nov 14, 2016 21:50:19 GMT -5
Slots does not affect MM. Replace your Carnage with something else and you'll see a change in gameplay. I have tested all sorts of combination on a Carnage and have never been in a match lower than gold. From experience, I start getting its' values worth with a 7-9 setup. MM just went wonky on me for a few games. I'm back to silver now. My bad for prematurely thinking something was off. |
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