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Post by Happy Fun Ball on Sept 10, 2020 15:46:20 GMT -5
I've occasionally used A-coins to buy blueprints to do an immediate upgrade (select the item to be upgraded and select the "Upgrade" button; not to be confused with buying blueprints from the daily deals in the shop). Today, instead of being able to do so, I'm greeted with a dialog box saying "Not Enough Blueprints." Is there some sort of trigger in the game based upon experience or based upon time playing that is going to make me open tons for crates to get a handful of blueprints? Just curious and thanks.
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Post by Redfiend on Sept 10, 2020 15:48:18 GMT -5
The late game players like KSO(the youtuber with everything) were complaining about it on disco the other day. Might have been disabled with the patch that went live for bug fixes earlier in the day.
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 10, 2020 15:48:31 GMT -5
That happened to me too today!
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Post by Happy Fun Ball on Sept 10, 2020 16:19:11 GMT -5
That sucks. I am blueprint poor and A-coin rich right now. When I open the better crates I just don't get enough blueprints. I guess this is a way to devalue A-coins. Well, less incentive to grind during the tournaments.
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Post by Redfiend on Sept 10, 2020 16:23:27 GMT -5
Think of it more as a reason to diversify. Instead of just hammering on a handful of bots, learn to use them all. There's no rush, and rushing tends to get punished after awhile.
A-coins are better off being spent on gear, credits, and saved for Rank ups than anything. Rank ups get up there in price.
Unlike most other mech games, specializing in one specific thing, and only playing that one specific way the entire time, makes for a bad time.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 10, 2020 17:20:17 GMT -5
Think of it more as a reason to diversify. Instead of just hammering on a handful of bots, learn to use them all. There's no rush, and rushing tends to get punished after awhile. A-coins are better off being spent on gear, credits, and saved for Rank ups than anything. Rank ups get up there in price. Unlike most other mech games, specializing in one specific thing, and only playing that one specific way the entire time, makes for a bad time. In my short time in this game, I’m very much inclined to agree. The challenges kind of force you to use different gear anyway; so from what I can see, that alone makes it worth bringing up everything mostly evenly, though I still like having some say in what I level up. So I’m still not too happy about losing the ability to buy blueprints. It’s not like I live by it, but I like having that option instead of now having to wait until luck hands me upgrades I can actually use, particularly when I get so many for stuff I don’t use or haven’t even acquired. What the hell were those clowns complaining about? Why take away that little bit if flexibility? What, are there a few whales who they’re afraid are buying their want inter top? That’s crap. Sorry, I’m sure I could look for myself, but I just can’t stand Discord, and this kind of crap is a big part of the reason why. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 10, 2020 18:01:56 GMT -5
Think of it more as a reason to diversify. Instead of just hammering on a handful of bots, learn to use them all. There's no rush, and rushing tends to get punished after awhile. A-coins are better off being spent on gear, credits, and saved for Rank ups than anything. Rank ups get up there in price. Unlike most other mech games, specializing in one specific thing, and only playing that one specific way the entire time, makes for a bad time. In my short time in this game, Iâ??m very much inclined to agree. The challenges kind of force you to use different gear anyway; so from what I can see, that alone makes it worth bringing up everything mostly evenly, though I still like having some say in what I level up. So Iâ??m still not too happy about losing the ability to buy blueprints. Itâ??s not like I live by it, but I like having that option instead of now having to wait until luck hands me upgrades I can actually use, particularly when I get so many for stuff I donâ??t use or havenâ??t even acquired. What the hell were those clowns complaining about? Why take away that little bit if flexibility? What, are there a few whales who theyâ??re afraid are buying their want inter top? Thatâ??s crap. Sorry, Iâ??m sure I could look for myself, but I just canâ??t stand Discord, and this kind of crap is a big part of the reason why. ^This
I have used the feature a few times... but we are talking a level or two to get to where I could rank up a particular item so that I could get more enjoyment out of playing... Not maxing ?dookie? out in one go. I am not much of a grinder... time is my enemy... but... I already live by the code of having as much of everything as I can in these type games. I like using everything and trying it out and switching things up.
So, it's not like I am going to laser focus on "SUPERAWESOMEMEGAHPJUG" and nothing else... giving just a little bit of flexibility to how the upgrades are gotten is nice... relying on random drops is one of my Pet Peeves.
Hell... the reason I finally uninstalled War Robots was the Pilot cost increase and the complete FU that that meant for folk like me who like to change ?dookie? up every few days... I would even spend 10$ on Au to refit a few Pilots if needed. Instead, they made it so that you were locked into what you got and either had to spend or rely on chance to change pilots out and get anything worth a damn as far as skill rerolls. That and the lag that came from that update pushed my last button.
Anyway, I digress...
I am very curious to know the "why" behind this... did those "lategamers" just not want people to get gear to compete with them? I mean... I don't want to think of them as petty... but I can't really see the reasoning behind this from their PoV. How could it bother them if someone like me finishes out a level or two to get to the next rank that I will sit at for a while since resources don't come very fast... especially for people like me who can't even guarantee enough games to grind the tourney.
Ah well... Not really upset, like Danny said... just sorta flabbergasted as to what could be wrong with that option, to begin with.
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Post by Redfiend on Sept 10, 2020 18:03:41 GMT -5
Danny Linguini the option didn't exist in alpha. To be kind, they have egos. Remember, their videos are just murder sprees on weaker mechs. It definitely slows down people's ability to catch up to the top, but everything is an eventuality.
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Post by mechtout on Sept 10, 2020 18:08:41 GMT -5
you mean i could have bought blueprints this whole time? man i need to try clicking on more things lol
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 10, 2020 18:47:17 GMT -5
you mean i could have bought blueprints this whole time? man i need to try clicking on more things lol Up until this morning, if your blueprint count was red (indicating that you don’t have enough to upgrade), you could still tap the upgrade button and it would give you the option to buy however many more you need with a-coins. Now it just says you don’t have enough blueprints. If I needed a crapload more, like it would cost over 100 a-coins, I’d pass; but if I was close and only needed to buy a few for something I really want to upgrade, I’d go for it. Kind of like throwing a few Au at an upgrade in War Robots to speed through the last half hour. It was a nice option. Hell, instead of killing it altogether, they could have just put a limit on it, like if you’re within 10 bp’s of what you need, you can buy the difference, but any more than that you have to wait til you acquire more the random way. That’d be a whole ot more palatable than just yanking the feature out of the game. I think I’ll go into Discord and make a stink about it. See what kind of poop I can stir up. Because I hate Discord.  |
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 11, 2020 7:40:59 GMT -5
It's a bit annoying, especially since I really really want to level up my Shadow and now I can't. Blueprints for it are few and far between. Heck, I don't even see the buy Upgrade Pack for it in the store. I'd spend the $12 to get some blueprints and credits easily. Been working from home and went from buying gas for my car once a week to once a month, so I've got a some spare disposable income! lol. I get what Redfiend is saying about diversifying and learning all builds, but I really don't like the tank playstyle (and I can't decide if I like PC6 or RPG6 for the Jug better) and I love fast agile bots like Killshot and Shadow. Now, I'm debating if I should just upgrade my Lancer just for fun. I'm in Division 2, and the Lancers I see on the field now are all pretty strong (can survive a single MR8 salvo) and wonderfully piloted and many have serious teeth. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 11, 2020 10:22:02 GMT -5
Danny Linguini - You got a response... don't know if you saw it... So, HappyFunBall, and everyone else, here is the answer... It was a feature in testing and will come back.  Apparently, you need to chill...  (Pretty sure he's ESL so probably not aware he sounds like an ?bum-bum hole?... but totally a guess... he may just be a ?cotton headed ninny muggins? lol)
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 11, 2020 12:33:27 GMT -5
Danny Linguini - You got a response... don't know if you saw it... So, HappyFunBall, and everyone else, here is the answer... It was a feature in testing and will come back. Apparently, you need to chill... (Pretty sure he's ESL so probably not aware he sounds like an ?bum-bum hole?... but totally a guess... he may just be a ?cotton headed ninny muggins? lol) It’s not the first run-in I’ve had with him. We went a few rounds once before when he tried to convince me that mortar rockets aren’t OP. I guess he’s a Discord equivalent of a mod or something. So, I should be glad that I got a feature to test that SUCKS? Is that what he’s trying to tell me? Or was buying blueprints the feature being tested? Idiot was not quite clear on that point. And if that’s the case that I’m one of the lucky chosen few, why wasn’t I told about it or asked what my opinion is about what I’m supposed to be testing? I need to chill ... ok. I wonder how else he would suggest I let them know when changes like that are clearly not fully thought out and adversely affect both the players and the developers. And that, kids, is why I hate Discord. Edit: I was gonna go slap him around a bit, but why pour more fuel on the fire. Anyway, if this feature was indeed a test that not everybody had access to, I guess that sort of explains why a few princesses had their panties in a twist about it. Still, a YouTube brat who’s already got everything in the game maxed to the hilt really shouldn’t be complaining about something that could eventually benefit all players. Waahhhhhh. God I hate Discord. And YouTubers. |
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 11, 2020 14:37:09 GMT -5
you mean i could have bought blueprints this whole time? man i need to try clicking on more things lol  |
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Post by Redfiend on Sept 11, 2020 19:34:19 GMT -5
Danny Linguini they're community managers. From the looks of it, it's their first time in such a position. People like that are why I stick to data. Hard to argue with a wall of objective text ?
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Post by Happy Fun Ball on Sept 12, 2020 0:47:09 GMT -5
Thanks for checking guys.
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Post by Koalabear on Sept 14, 2020 8:55:24 GMT -5
But seriously, I'm hoping they bring it back soon. I need me some Shadow blueprints! Been running my Jug and while I have to admit that having a tank has turned more than one game for me, I really really want another fast mech to complement my Killshot in my hangar. My Shadow only has 8E right now and all my 4E weapons don't do much damage. I really want to get it to 12E so that I can put a pair of RPG6 on it and then I'll be happy.
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 14, 2020 11:21:16 GMT -5
Man, I literally hit the blueprint wall on 2 items right after this thread was posted. Kicking myself that I didn't take advantage of it before. I really need my KS to be R4 and I'd like to take my PC8s to R4 too. Both are so freaking far away from their next level because of blue prints. booo
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 14, 2020 16:07:27 GMT -5
SNIP...But seriously, I'm hoping they bring it back soon. I need me some Shadow blueprints! Been running my Jug and while I have to admit that having a tank has turned more than one game for me, I really really want another fast mech to complement my Killshot in my hangar. My Shadow only has 8E right now and all my 4E weapons don't do much damage. I really want to get it to 12E so that I can put a pair of RPG6 on it and then I'll be happy. Thing about that, is that it takes 2 ranks to get there 
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Post by Commander Dog on Sept 15, 2020 11:36:03 GMT -5
Blueprints for A-coins is back. Just enabled me to bring my Jugg up to r3.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Sept 15, 2020 14:48:11 GMT -5
Blueprints for A-coins is back. Just enabled me to bring my Jugg up to r3. YESSSSS! |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 15, 2020 15:05:33 GMT -5
Just logged in to finally get the last few Panther Blueprints I needed for R4...
That allowed me to finally load this bad boy up!
I know this prolly isn't the best build for this combo... but IDC... it's about fun. I can double down on the freeze... stasis field AND beam? Yes please.
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Post by bayscout on Sept 15, 2020 21:46:28 GMT -5
Danny Linguini - You got a response... don't know if you saw it... So, HappyFunBall, and everyone else, here is the answer... It was a feature in testing and will come back. Apparently, you need to chill... (Pretty sure he's ESL so probably not aware he sounds like an ?bum-bum hole?... but totally a guess... he may just be a ?cotton headed ninny muggins? lol) I just want to say thank you to whichever mod took my recommendation for "cotton headed ninny muggins" for the swear filter. I get warm fuzzies every time I see it! |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 16, 2020 8:24:26 GMT -5
UPDATE to my above post:
Wow... Stasis Beam is brutal... I had to stop using it since it was just too damned powerful for this early in the tourney. KS + MR is still my jam for getting mass kills... especially on the Arches map... but this thing was just sucking HP right outta folks.
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Post by ᥣᵃᵛᵃʲᵃᵛᵃ on Sept 16, 2020 8:45:21 GMT -5
UPDATE to my above post: Wow... Stasis Beam is brutal... I had to stop using it since it was just too damned powerful for this early in the tourney. KS + MR is still my jam for getting mass kills... especially on the Arches map... but this thing was just sucking HP right outta folks. I'm looking forward to getting one - need a few more A-coins yet! Reckon the Ares will suit it (once 5*) along with the TL6. Edit - just lost a tourney to a Panther equipped with Stasis Beam 16 (5.2) and TL4 (2.6) - Double Stasis is brutal!! My bots were in treacle for the 8 or 9 seconds they lasted. I need one of these! |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 16, 2020 9:15:04 GMT -5
UPDATE to my above post: Wow... Stasis Beam is brutal... I had to stop using it since it was just too damned powerful for this early in the tourney. KS + MR is still my jam for getting mass kills... especially on the Arches map... but this thing was just sucking HP right outta folks. I'm looking forward to getting one - need a few more A-coins yet! Reckon the Ares will suit it (once 5*) along with the TL6 I'm just using a R3 TL4 and it already rocks... I imagine the 6 will too... and then some.
Rank 3 TL4 has 36 for the rate of damage debuff on the target, and it fills up quickly enough... I assume the 6 at rank 3 will have a higher fill rate as well as more damage for the beam... if so, dayum.
EDIT, and yes, Ares is a good home for it, I think it is the eventual home for mine, too. But for now, this is working just fine lol.
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 16, 2020 10:52:18 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to getting one - need a few more A-coins yet! Reckon the Ares will suit it (once 5*) along with the TL6 I'm just using a R3 TL4 and it already rocks... I imagine the 6 will too... and then some.
Rank 3 TL4 has 36 for the rate of damage debuff on the target, and it fills up quickly enough... I assume the 6 at rank 3 will have a higher fill rate as well as more damage for the beam... if so, dayum.
EDIT, and yes, Ares is a good home for it, I think it is the eventual home for mine, too. But for now, this is working just fine lol.
I am still using the same SB12/TL4 set up. I've stopped putting resources into the TL4 though. The overheat rate of 33 (36 at R3) doesn't increase fast enough to come close to the TL6 (66% at R2). It's a placeholder for now and does alright. The problem I've seen is that it takes almost all of the "ammo" of the beam (since there's only one) to overheat something. Then it stops and the effect stops and it's almost impossible to get the effect again. I'm not seeing the 1.5x damage benefit that is necessary for the combo to really shine. I suspect that completely changes with over double the overheat rate of the TL6 though. That will be sick! The damage of the weapon doubles too, but that's still only 1/3 the damage of the SB12. The big win is the overheat rate. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Sept 16, 2020 11:02:25 GMT -5
I'm just using a R3 TL4 and it already rocks... I imagine the 6 will too... and then some.
Rank 3 TL4 has 36 for the rate of damage debuff on the target, and it fills up quickly enough... I assume the 6 at rank 3 will have a higher fill rate as well as more damage for the beam... if so, dayum.
EDIT, and yes, Ares is a good home for it, I think it is the eventual home for mine, too. But for now, this is working just fine lol.
I am still using the same SB12/TL4 set up. I've stopped putting resources into the TL4 though. The overheat rate of 33 (36 at R3) doesn't increase fast enough to come close to the TL6 (66% at R2). It's a placeholder for now and does alright. The problem I've seen is that it takes almost all of the "ammo" of the beam (since there's only one) to overheat something. Then it stops and the effect stops and it's almost impossible to get the effect again. I'm not seeing the 1.5x damage benefit that is necessary for the combo to really shine. I suspect that completely changes with over double the overheat rate of the TL6 though. That will be sick! The damage of the weapon doubles too, but that's still only 1/3 the damage of the SB12. The big win is the overheat rate. You answered my question then... so the 6 gets a heat buff too...
Your combo of SB12 + TL6 may even be more effective than my SB16 + TL4 then... not sure how the numbers match up. With the 16 though... so far, the 4 is doing fine. I did notice the same thing about how quickly it runs out of ammo and started trying to coordinate with others running TLs. If I saw them using what looked like TL4s or 2s, I would add my beam to it to light it up faster, then the SB would just almost insta-death them. Brutal as 「fluffernutter」. 6s would negate the need for that but I'd need more energy lol.
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Post by Deadeye on Sept 16, 2020 11:40:54 GMT -5
I am still using the same SB12/TL4 set up. I've stopped putting resources into the TL4 though. The overheat rate of 33 (36 at R3) doesn't increase fast enough to come close to the TL6 (66% at R2). It's a placeholder for now and does alright. The problem I've seen is that it takes almost all of the "ammo" of the beam (since there's only one) to overheat something. Then it stops and the effect stops and it's almost impossible to get the effect again. I'm not seeing the 1.5x damage benefit that is necessary for the combo to really shine. I suspect that completely changes with over double the overheat rate of the TL6 though. That will be sick! The damage of the weapon doubles too, but that's still only 1/3 the damage of the SB12. The big win is the overheat rate. You answered my question then... so the 6 gets a heat buff too...
Your combo of SB12 + TL6 may even be more effective than my SB16 + TL4 then... not sure how the numbers match up. With the 16 though... so far, the 4 is doing fine. I did notice the same thing about how quickly it runs out of ammo and started trying to coordinate with others running TLs. If I saw them using what looked like TL4s or 2s, I would add my beam to it to light it up faster, then the SB would just almost insta-death them. Brutal as ?fluffernutter?. 6s would negate the need for that but I'd need more energy lol.
Oh wow, I didn't realize you were using the SB16. I'm sure that's brutal! The SB16/TL6 will only be possible on a R5+ heavy, but I bet it will be brutal setup. I guess I could get the 16 too and run it with the other TL6 on the Panther. lol However, that would conflict with my desire to run the RG16/LA8 combo...some day. lol |
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