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Post by phobos262 on Mar 6, 2021 14:52:06 GMT -5
Trying to complete the damn paragon event today and the AI is being very very not nice to me today. Keying-in on my Para right from the start of matches. Blue AI dances right in front of my MR8s and spins around. Oh, well. First world problems. That sounds like my usual experience. Sometimes I’m not sure which AI is worse, red or blue. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 6, 2021 19:11:06 GMT -5
Trying to complete the damn paragon event today and the AI is being very very not nice to me today. Keying-in on my Para right from the start of matches. Blue AI dances right in front of my MR8s and spins around. Oh, well. First world problems. Somebody suggested this in another thread - 1-mech hangar! I played 10 games yesterday running only Paragon with javelins. It either lasts and you score big with it, or the game is over really quick and you move on to the next one. Then I just got tired of playing. Any human teammates probably won’t like you very much, but who cares.  |
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 8, 2021 9:02:42 GMT -5
I'll just play TDM, spawn my Paragon or Lancer first and then immediately self destruct and spawn something useful. Hasn't really affected me much. May have only lost one or two rounds with only a 1 point deficit. Otherwise, I either win or I'll lose big, in either case, self destructing had no noticeable impact.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 8, 2021 10:17:29 GMT -5
I went with just my R2 paragon with javs and finished that challenge. Took awhile, but it was pretty mindless - spawn paragon, either get killed right away or rack up damage, rinse and repeat. A lot. Then when I was done I realized it was all for a skin for a mech I barely use.  |
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Post by dukeofadvil on Mar 8, 2021 10:27:29 GMT -5
I do not even grind for Lancer or Paragon. It isn't worth the time to change over the chassis for bots I do not enjoy playing with.
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Post by dukeofadvil on Mar 8, 2021 10:29:00 GMT -5
.....but if you let me know you are running for an award when we squad i wont hogg the lane so you can earn your beacon credits
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 8, 2021 14:12:35 GMT -5
Not sure if you all know, but on Tunnel of Fate, you can hop into your Lancer, arm it with JRs and jump on those two structures on the sides and rain missiles down on reds with almost impunity. I'm sure there are other places to hide/camp for the Lancer on other maps.
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Post by A.c.r.u.x. on Mar 8, 2021 15:25:57 GMT -5
Not sure if you all know, but on Tunnel of Fate, you can hop into your Lancer, arm it with JRs and jump on those two structures on the sides and rain missiles down on reds with almost impunity. I'm sure there are other places to hide/camp for the Lancer on other maps. And just like that.. you're off the xmas list.... Was so happy that little place seemed to only be known by a few and its more than phased out in the upper league matches.. but now, they all know... everyone...  |
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 8, 2021 15:28:18 GMT -5
Not sure if you all know, but on Tunnel of Fate, you can hop into your Lancer, arm it with JRs and jump on those two structures on the sides and rain missiles down on reds with almost impunity. I'm sure there are other places to hide/camp for the Lancer on other maps. And just like that.. you're off the xmas list.... Was so happy that little place seemed to only be known by a few and its more than phased out in the upper league matches.. but now, they all know... everyone... Surprised the heck out of me the first time I saw a blue Lancer jump up there! My Lancer only has 8EN, so it's not really worth it for me...but, one day, I'll get my Lancer up to 12EN and put JR6 on it and then it'd be effective. |
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Post by reconnecting on Mar 9, 2021 13:21:48 GMT -5
And just like that.. you're off the xmas list.... Was so happy that little place seemed to only be known by a few and its more than phased out in the upper league matches.. but now, they all know... everyone... Surprised the heck out of me the first time I saw a blue Lancer jump up there! My Lancer only has 8EN, so it's not really worth it for me...but, one day, I'll get my Lancer up to 12EN and put JR6 on it and then it'd be effective. You could put JR4s on it, mine are fairly well levelled because I like rockets. :-D Need to get my Lancer levelled though to try this. |
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 9, 2021 14:58:39 GMT -5
Surprised the heck out of me the first time I saw a blue Lancer jump up there! My Lancer only has 8EN, so it's not really worth it for me...but, one day, I'll get my Lancer up to 12EN and put JR6 on it and then it'd be effective. You could put JR4s on it, mine are fairly well levelled because I like rockets. :-D Need to get my Lancer levelled though to try this. I do put JR4s on my Lancer when I have Lancer tasks. But, my JRs don't have much punch and I'm not going to throw any resources at them right now. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 9, 2021 17:10:34 GMT -5
Ode to the Blue A.I.
I know it's been said,
Probably in this here thread...
But it fills me with dread,
When the Blue AI begin to tread,
Directly in front of my fire,
With consequences, so dire,
My shot placement? You inquire...
Into the back of Blue's head, leaving the Red not dead, and adding fuel to my raging ire.
-T48
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 17, 2021 9:45:31 GMT -5
So, it's not just AI team mates who push you around...
This morning, I joined a squad and one team mate, lets call him AW was kinda chastizing the other team mate, lets call him RA, for pushing him in their previous match. I joined in a bit in the ribbing and then we did a 5v5 on High Ridge. I get to my fave spot, the elevated platform on the right side with my Zep first, and AW gets there after me in his CB12 Panther. Guess who pushed me out of my ideal spot?? Sheesh.
I let him have it for the rest of that round as well as round 2 which we lost. Then, on round 3, I guess he finally realized and let me have that spot for the whole round. Well, at least human players can correct their behaviour!
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 17, 2021 14:32:50 GMT -5
So, it's not just AI team mates who push you around... This morning, I joined a squad and one team mate, lets call him AW was kinda chastizing the other team mate, lets call him RA, for pushing him in their previous match. I joined in a bit in the ribbing and then we did a 5v5 on High Ridge. I get to my fave spot, the elevated platform on the right side with my Zep first, and AW gets there after me in his CB12 Panther. Guess who pushed me out of my ideal spot?? Sheesh. I let him have it for the rest of that round as well as round 2 which we lost. Then, on round 3, I guess he finally realized and let me have that spot for the whole round. Well, at least human players can correct their behaviour! I actually quit a game this morning because of this. One guy with a stupid game name I can’t even repeat because it’s some kinda foreign crap with maxed out everythings in his hangar kept pushing me out of cover, or blocking my retreat from fire, stealing ALL my kills, generally being a total dooshnozzle in two straight games. Horrible, horrible teammate - just total lack of awareness or concern for anybody or anything other than grabbing all the kills he could, and screw everybody else. I dashed him once with my Killshot to let him know I wasn’t happy about it, which I’m sure he didn’t even notice. This guy was worse than the worst AI. After 4 stolen kills in one game and constantly being pushed out of prime real estate, I said F it and left the game. He seemed to want to go ahead without me, so have at it. Unfortunately the team leader started games too quickly for me to let him have it in the game chat. No great loss - they were all 3000+ hangars, and my 2100 scrap heap was usually around the bottom of the team anyway. Some players are really, really great to team with, and some not so much. Yes, it has not been a very fun day in MA today. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 17, 2021 16:54:08 GMT -5
Just... why? This is shady af.
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 18, 2021 8:14:16 GMT -5
The extra is the convenience service fee??
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 18, 2021 8:16:36 GMT -5
The extra is the convenience service fee?? Yeah, for the extra clicks to get to the shop. Whew... those extra thumb movements would have been taxing! lol |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Apr 5, 2021 15:23:04 GMT -5
Game has gone into total piss-me-off mode again. I have already stopped playing solo games, because AI is just stupid now, and very little tournament, because it’s more aggravating than ever for turd payouts, and now I can’t do squat with human teammates in CPC either. Played a bunch of games yesterday with 3-4 mates, all with weaker hangars than mine (on paper), and I finished at or near the bottom of every 「fluffernutter」ing game. Every mech I hit with javelins was left with a sliver of health - EVERY ONE, no matter how much health they had before I hit them. Can’t kill anything, but everything is killing me EASILY. Besides spending half the goddamm game frozen by zephyrs. It’s like I forgot how to play AND all my gear got nerfed back to R1. I’m at that point AGAIN where I want to smash this iPad to pieces. I thought this 「dookie」 was supposed to be fun. I think it’s time for another break.
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Post by OU812? on Apr 5, 2021 16:19:00 GMT -5
Game has gone into total piss-me-off mode again. I have already stopped playing solo games, because AI is just stupid now, and very little tournament, because it’s more aggravating than ever for turd payouts, and now I can’t do squat with human teammates in CPC either. Played a bunch of games yesterday with 3-4 mates, all with weaker hangars than mine (on paper), and I finished at or near the bottom of every 「fluffernutter」ing game. Every mech I hit with javelins was left with a sliver of health - EVERY ONE, no matter how much health they had before I hit them. Can’t kill anything, but everything is killing me EASILY. Besides spending half the goddamm game frozen by zephyrs. It’s like I forgot how to play AND all my gear got nerfed back to R1. I’m at that point AGAIN where I want to smash this iPad to pieces. I thought this 「dookie」 was supposed to be fun. I think it’s time for another break. What are your Javs riding on? I have been outright destroying reds less frequently too, but can usually make it through a whole match with my Jav6 Storm build if I’m careful. It it gets toasted I usually jump into a MR8 Ares for the remainder of the match. I can relate to your frustrations. Red AIs seem to be focusing on me quite a bit lately, especially in tourney. Matchmaker seems to like to set me up against squads with 2-3 players and 3-2 AIs while it’s me with four twirling blues. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 5, 2021 18:10:06 GMT -5
AI has definitely been tweaked. And yes, they prioritize us over Blue AI, without fail. I've noticed that a LOT more, lately. Packs of Blue AI in an ongoing battle with Red AI. I turn the corner behind the Blues, and all the Reds shoot at me. This is fine in the Ares or Panther, since it gives my Blues a chance to trade fire without pain... but otherwise it's a right PITA. I mean INSTANT targeting of me, too.
But yeah, I assume every mech coming around the corner to be either a Zep, Guardian, or KS. Each one, when driven by AI, are almost completely perfect in their use of their ability. I can't even count on a KS to miss me if there is an obstacle between us... somehow they always seem to hit me, even when they don't. Only way I can keep myself from dying straight out when solo, lately, is by keeping out of 30m range of everything until it's identified or I have been able to disable it with my own Zep or Guardian.
When I am in a squad, though, I just don't care about score. The peeps I usually run with are so good and leveled so high that I just try to set up the kills for them and worry about the win when we go against AI teams, unless I get a wild hair. People tend to start with KSs in CPC and it's just not easy to compete with that in any other bot. I like saving my Killies for Beacon Sweeps if reds get to 50 before we do, so I am usually starting with Panther to shut down any LR players while helping to secure Center.
Against non AI squads, though, it's a whole other rant discussion: I hate Mortars. I am learning how to use them. I am becoming that which I hate. I hate RGs. Mostly because I haven't unlocked it yet.
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Post by OU812? on Apr 5, 2021 18:28:46 GMT -5
AI has definitely been tweaked. And yes, they prioritize us over Blue AI, without fail. I've noticed that a LOT more, lately. Packs of Blue AI in an ongoing battle with Red AI. I turn the corner behind the Blues, and all the Reds shoot at me. This is fine in the Ares or Panther, since it gives my Blues a chance to trade fire without pain... but otherwise it's a right PITA. I mean INSTANT targeting of me, too. But yeah, I assume every mech coming around the corner to be either a Zep, Guardian, or KS. Each one, when driven by AI, are almost completely perfect in their use of their ability. I can't even count on a KS to miss me if there is an obstacle between us... somehow they always seem to hit me, even when they don't. Only way I can keep myself from dying straight out when solo, lately, is by keeping out of 30m range of everything until it's identified or I have been able to disable it with my own Zep or Guardian. When I am in a squad, though, I just don't care about score. The peeps I usually run with are so good and leveled so high that I just try to set up the kills for them and worry about the win when we go against AI teams, unless I get a wild hair. People tend to start with KSs in CPC and it's just not easy to compete with that in any other bot. I like saving my Killies for Beacon Sweeps if reds get to 50 before we do, so I am usually starting with Panther to shut down any LR players while helping to secure Center. Against non AI squads, though, it's a whole other rant discussion: I hate Mortars. I am learning how to use them. I am becoming that which I hate. I hate RGs. Mostly because I haven't unlocked it yet. I hear ya and can relate to everything you’re pointing out. I’ve recently realized that if the AI pegs me with LAs that I need to find cover quick, wether in stealth or not. I got rammed three times in a row while in stealth and running in acceleration yesterday in a tourney match. No way a player could do that. It’s annoying. I’m also seeing the AI specifically coming after me while blue has tea parties. My Jav6s seem to becoming less effective at times too. I think MAs developers like to move the goal posts on a us a bit. I’ve slowed down on acquisitions recently but the way matches are playing out I wonder if the game is pushing me to get the upper echelon bots and weapons that need more credits and ACoins. Bots armed with stasis beams, and carbines 10s abound in my matches now. |
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Post by Danny Linguini on Apr 5, 2021 18:35:55 GMT -5
Game has gone into total piss-me-off mode again. I have already stopped playing solo games, because AI is just stupid now, and very little tournament, because it’s more aggravating than ever for turd payouts, and now I can’t do squat with human teammates in CPC either. Played a bunch of games yesterday with 3-4 mates, all with weaker hangars than mine (on paper), and I finished at or near the bottom of every 「fluffernutter」ing game. Every mech I hit with javelins was left with a sliver of health - EVERY ONE, no matter how much health they had before I hit them. Can’t kill anything, but everything is killing me EASILY. Besides spending half the goddamm game frozen by zephyrs. It’s like I forgot how to play AND all my gear got nerfed back to R1. I’m at that point AGAIN where I want to smash this iPad to pieces. I thought this 「dookie」 was supposed to be fun. I think it’s time for another break. What are your Javs riding on? I have been outright destroying reds less frequently too, but can usually make it through a whole match with my Jav6 Storm build if I’m careful. It it gets toasted I usually jump into a MR8 Ares for the remainder of the match. I can relate to your frustrations. Red AIs seem to be focusing on me quite a bit lately, especially in tourney. Matchmaker seems to like to set me up against squads with 2-3 players and 3-2 AIs while it’s me with four twirling blues. I put the javs back on the Lancer, and MR8s on Killshot. Javs used to be great no matter what I put them on, but they’ve obviously been seriously nerfed. MR8s now at R5 are the only things that kill anything ... IF I can hit it. As for AI, in tourney they’re focusing on me, in CPC they make well coordinated rushes on the home beacons, usually while the rest of the team is getting killed somewhere else. They are noticeably more aggressive in both modes - unless they’re on your team. Not only that, they always know what mech to send after me depending on what mech I’ve got. If I’m in Panther, guaranteed they have two Killshots heading my way. Anything else, they either sneak up behind me with shadows or hide behind corners with zephyrs. Most of those games are getting won now by killing them all, IF the rest of the team sticks together. One game earlier today, I spawned Juggy to keep them from taking a beacon, and the absolute moment I dropped I got froze by a zephyr and shredded by it and a Ares with SB and TL. My toughest mech gone literally within seconds of spawning. I’ve mech’d out of more games in the last couple of weeks than the whole rest of the time I’ve been playing. |
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Post by hicycles on Apr 6, 2021 0:30:40 GMT -5
What are your Javs riding on? I have been outright destroying reds less frequently too, but can usually make it through a whole match with my Jav6 Storm build if I’m careful. It it gets toasted I usually jump into a MR8 Ares for the remainder of the match. I can relate to your frustrations. Red AIs seem to be focusing on me quite a bit lately, especially in tourney. Matchmaker seems to like to set me up against squads with 2-3 players and 3-2 AIs while it’s me with four twirling blues. I put the javs back on the Lancer, and MR8s on Killshot. Javs used to be great no matter what I put them on, but they’ve obviously been seriously nerfed. MR8s now at R5 are the only things that kill anything ... IF I can hit it. As for AI, in tourney they’re focusing on me, in CPC they make well coordinated rushes on the home beacons, usually while the rest of the team is getting killed somewhere else. They are noticeably more aggressive in both modes - unless they’re on your team. Not only that, they always know what mech to send after me depending on what mech I’ve got. If I’m in Panther, guaranteed they have two Killshots heading my way. Anything else, they either sneak up behind me with shadows or hide behind corners with zephyrs. Most of those games are getting won now by killing them all, IF the rest of the team sticks together. One game earlier today, I spawned Juggy to keep them from taking a beacon, and the absolute moment I dropped I got froze by a zephyr and shredded by it and a Ares with SB and TL. My toughest mech gone literally within seconds of spawning. I’ve mech’d out of more games in the last couple of weeks than the whole rest of the time I’ve been playing. I'm not sure the javs got nerfed. I just noticed a couple of months ago that they were less effective. I'm guessing it's because the ai reds are higher leveled. I retired the javs at that point. To be frank, the javs don't do a whole lot of damage, when compared to other options. |
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Post by BigBear on Apr 6, 2021 4:20:57 GMT -5
I agree I don't think they are nerfing weapons as I still find my Javs effective against real players,I think they are beefing up AI bot and weapon strength which gives the appearance your stuff is less effective.
What the purpose of that is I have no idea,all i can see it do is try to encourage players to upgrade because they feel their stuff is not strong enough.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 6, 2021 9:08:59 GMT -5
The upshot is that there ARE more human players... at least when I play. I usually find only my first game to be AI only, lately.
Still, it's mostly either another solo human like me that is usually 500 - 1000 SP below me, OR, a squad while I still only have Blue Potatoes.
Overall, though, those games are much more intense, since I get all focused once I realize there is a player on the other side. I enjoy those, win or lose... as long as our AI is close to the same performance, which is happening more than not... if the kill and assist/beacon counts at the end are telling a true story. The difference between each team has been minor. It does still happen, where my Blues just melt at first sight of the Reds, but not near as often. I'll take that. I do think there is a regional difference in servers of some kind, and now that I have decided on a VPN, I aim to test that theory to confirm what Redfiend was saying, a while back.
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Post by BigBear on Apr 6, 2021 11:47:27 GMT -5
I know for a fact there are currency difference's in this game,a couple of months ago the most expensive offer deal appeared for me showing £100,a friend in Canada had the same offer and with dollar to sterling conversion it should have been around £70 for me.
Maybe Plarium thinks English players are all wealthy,or gullable I'm not sure which !!
Back then Red Fiend recommended I use VPN when I make purchases to make it cheaper, not sure if it would work though.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Apr 6, 2021 12:18:32 GMT -5
I know for a fact there are currency difference's in this game,a couple of months ago the most expensive offer deal appeared for me showing £100,a friend in Canada had the same offer and with dollar to sterling conversion it should have been around £70 for me. Maybe Plarium thinks English players are all wealthy,or gullable I'm not sure which !! Back then Red Fiend recommended I use VPN when I make purchases to make it cheaper, not sure if it would work though. I wasn't even thinking about prices... that's not just Plarium though... War Robots does that, too. It may be something that is set in the respective app stores, though, and not the developers, themselves... I don't know for sure.
I was thinking about MM and the difference in player populations. I hear the Russian server is chock full of 3000SP Mortar wielders, for example, and would be great training!
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Post by reconnecting on Apr 6, 2021 12:48:46 GMT -5
Game has gone into total piss-me-off mode again. I have already stopped playing solo games, because AI is just stupid now, and very little tournament, because it’s more aggravating than ever for turd payouts, and now I can’t do squat with human teammates in CPC either. Played a bunch of games yesterday with 3-4 mates, all with weaker hangars than mine (on paper), and I finished at or near the bottom of every 「fluffernutter」ing game. Every mech I hit with javelins was left with a sliver of health - EVERY ONE, no matter how much health they had before I hit them. Can’t kill anything, but everything is killing me EASILY. Besides spending half the goddamm game frozen by zephyrs. It’s like I forgot how to play AND all my gear got nerfed back to R1. I’m at that point AGAIN where I want to smash this iPad to pieces. I thought this 「dookie」 was supposed to be fun. I think it’s time for another break. I had the same thing with the Jav6s leaving a sliver of health every time. Then I levelled them up once or twice and now they kill reds and leave no evidence. 😉 Big improvement. They are level 5.5 now. |
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Post by reconnecting on Apr 6, 2021 12:57:07 GMT -5
What are your Javs riding on? I have been outright destroying reds less frequently too, but can usually make it through a whole match with my Jav6 Storm build if I’m careful. It it gets toasted I usually jump into a MR8 Ares for the remainder of the match. I can relate to your frustrations. Red AIs seem to be focusing on me quite a bit lately, especially in tourney. Matchmaker seems to like to set me up against squads with 2-3 players and 3-2 AIs while it’s me with four twirling blues. I put the javs back on the Lancer, and MR8s on Killshot. Javs used to be great no matter what I put them on, but they’ve obviously been seriously nerfed. MR8s now at R5 are the only things that kill anything ... IF I can hit it. As for AI, in tourney they’re focusing on me, in CPC they make well coordinated rushes on the home beacons, usually while the rest of the team is getting killed somewhere else. They are noticeably more aggressive in both modes - unless they’re on your team. Not only that, they always know what mech to send after me depending on what mech I’ve got. If I’m in Panther, guaranteed they have two Killshots heading my way. Anything else, they either sneak up behind me with shadows or hide behind corners with zephyrs. Most of those games are getting won now by killing them all, IF the rest of the team sticks together. One game earlier today, I spawned Juggy to keep them from taking a beacon, and the absolute moment I dropped I got froze by a zephyr and shredded by it and a Ares with SB and TL. My toughest mech gone literally within seconds of spawning. I’ve mech’d out of more games in the last couple of weeks than the whole rest of the time I’ve been playing. I only mech out if I play with friends who have high SP hangars, like 3000+. I sit at about 2000. Its good to have a more challenging match at times, though forget about gold medals. |
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Post by BigBear on Apr 7, 2021 4:52:11 GMT -5
Game has gone into total piss-me-off mode again. I have already stopped playing solo games, because AI is just stupid now, and very little tournament, because it’s more aggravating than ever for turd payouts, and now I can’t do squat with human teammates in CPC either. Played a bunch of games yesterday with 3-4 mates, all with weaker hangars than mine (on paper), and I finished at or near the bottom of every 「fluffernutter」ing game. Every mech I hit with javelins was left with a sliver of health - EVERY ONE, no matter how much health they had before I hit them. Can’t kill anything, but everything is killing me EASILY. Besides spending half the goddamm game frozen by zephyrs. It’s like I forgot how to play AND all my gear got nerfed back to R1. I’m at that point AGAIN where I want to smash this iPad to pieces. I thought this 「dookie」 was supposed to be fun. I think it’s time for another break. I had the same thing with the Jav6s leaving a sliver of health every time. Then I levelled them up once or twice and now they kill reds and leave no evidence. 😉 Big improvement. They are level 5.5 now. I had the same with my missle racks,always left a sliver of health until I upgraded to the next level,now a full unload usually destroys the target. |
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