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Post by Adazahi on Aug 19, 2020 6:24:05 GMT -5
 Closest to the left are best. Titans are rated in a scale of how good they are vs each other, not bots. Also, tiers don’t just account for who would win in a 1v1, but also utility in beacon capping, support, etc. |
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Post by Desc440 on Aug 19, 2020 8:02:30 GMT -5
Interesting. This is how I would rank them (in no particular order within their tier):
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Post by #1 worst pilot on Aug 20, 2020 10:09:32 GMT -5
Interesting. This is how I would rank them (in no particular order within their tier):
As a blitz user, S depends on if you have clive or not. Definite S with clive, A otherwise. |
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Post by Desc440 on Aug 20, 2020 10:44:57 GMT -5
Interesting. This is how I would rank them (in no particular order within their tier):
As a blitz user, S depends on if you have clive or not. Definite S with clive, A otherwise. Yes, I assumed WITH Clive. Same for Falcon: needs Traditionalist to be up there. |
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Post by reconnecting on Aug 20, 2020 13:36:14 GMT -5
As an older player who wears reading glasses I believe this pic needs higher resolution and make the bot names visible. Even if I squint I cant make out some of the bots.  |
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Post by foxypotato on Aug 20, 2020 16:20:39 GMT -5
I would put the Haechi above Hover and Raven. It can easily out brawl both of those bots even without the Legendary Pilot.
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Post by Adazahi on Aug 20, 2020 17:01:31 GMT -5
I would put the Haechi above Hover and Raven. It can easily out brawl both of those bots even without the Legendary Pilot. Remember, this isn't entierly based on who would win in a 1v1. Haeichi has very little team play, whereas hover and raven both have amazing beacon capping potential. Its true that Hae is fast, but only over short distances every 30 seconds. Hover and raven (and strider) are some of the best bots for pushing the center early on - given you have a good last stand and advanced repair kit to live through the whole team trying to shoot you off center. |
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Post by Cyclone Nodens on Aug 20, 2020 18:29:04 GMT -5
I disagree that Nodens is not as good as AM, because I play in FFA and Beacon Rush and I find that Nodens can outbrawl Mings and provide support that your team needs. For example, it can take out robots, proivde support with healing and multi-suppress others. Also, I agree that Blitz is only S with Clive. I also heavily disagree on some of the rankings. The Pantheons are NOT C Tier! I believe they are at the least A Tier only because they can counter Mings SO well. Leech, Scorpion, Phantom, Loki, Falcon and Fenrir deserve S due to them being really common in Champs and, in the case of Falcon and Fenrir, are able to counter Ravana as well as a Titan. Invader should be A just because of high health and a great ability. Dash bots should be B to A Tier because they are great at bacon-running and team support. Rayker should be at least B or A because it is really good for its cost. HB and Mercury can do well, so B or A. Lance and Fury, B for their cost. Raijin should be at least C, and finally, Cerberus should be A. It is really good, Tyr should be A, and robots like, Behemoth, Spectre, Quisitor, Raven, Hover and Guang should be one rank higher. The rest of the robots I have no care for because I am in CHampion League.
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Post by Adazahi on Aug 20, 2020 18:56:46 GMT -5
I disagree that Nodens is not as good as AM, because I play in FFA and Beacon Rush and I find that Nodens can outbrawl Mings and provide support that your team needs. For example, it can take out robots, proivde support with healing and multi-suppress others. Also, I agree that Blitz is only S with Clive. I also heavily disagree on some of the rankings. The Pantheons are NOT C Tier! I believe they are at the least A Tier only because they can counter Mings SO well. Leech, Scorpion, Phantom, Loki, Falcon and Fenrir deserve S due to them being really common in Champs and, in the case of Falcon and Fenrir, are able to counter Ravana as well as a Titan. Invader should be A just because of high health and a great ability. Dash bots should be B to A Tier because they are great at bacon-running and team support. Rayker should be at least B or A because it is really good for its cost. HB and Mercury can do well, so B or A. Lance and Fury, B for their cost. Raijin should be at least C, and finally, Cerberus should be A. It is really good, Tyr should be A, and robots like, Behemoth, Spectre, Quisitor, Raven, Hover and Guang should be one rank higher. The rest of the robots I have no care for because I am in CHampion League. The placement in the tier list isnt for the bots themselves, its for the bots in comparison to other bots. Also, this tier list does not consider cost, it just considers how good the bots are. Nodens: Nodens is a great support, but in terms of team utility, I feel like deleting leeches across the map is more helpful than healing that nightingale can do. Its just... a titan is a big damage dealer / tank. Making a titan into a healer just makes it a bit squishy, and it can't kite Arthur, so you're basically screwed if you run into one. Pantheons are scrap metal to ao jun, ravana, leech, ao guang, phantom, etc. The shield days are over, people are able to just run into them way too easily now. Against titans they're nothing more than annoying. No DR mitigation, so they just tickle. Leech, scorp, phantom, loki, falc, and fen are not on the level of things like jun and Ravana. While falc and fen CAN counter ravs, thats about all they do. They're slow and lacking in firepower, and dont do much more than spam healing to contest beacons. They get shredded by cryos/storms/titans/teamwork. Invader gets screwed hard by anticontrol. Dash bots suck in current champs. Their beacon running is trash in comparision to many bots above them. As for rayker, as I said cost has no effect on ratings. HB and merc are worse versions of phantoms for HB and invader for merc. Lance, fury, raijin, and cerb are all bad, and cost doesnt matter in this list. Cerb dies to anticontrol, and raijin, lance and fury are out of commission bots. Tyr isn't on the same level as A tier bots like blitz and leech, storms rip its shield clean off and it only really does amaazing when youtubers max it. Behemoth, Spectre, Quiz, Raven, Hover and Guang all have counters in higher tiers that put them in lower tiers. Yang lee for spec and quiz, anything for hover and raven, titans for guang, and shotguns for behemoth. Everyone to their own opinions, but I think you're rating some bots way too high than they should be, as the list isnt just "how good is this bot" and more like "how good is this bot side by side with other bots." For example, I'd say an Ao Guang is A tier alone, but when you see that leech is also in A tier, Guang needs to be pushed down a bit. |
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Post by zombiewolf907 on Aug 21, 2020 1:48:16 GMT -5
Too many variables in some cases but my Ares can take out about any bot except Arthur. Sure if someone gets too close things go south but the key is to not let that happen. I also run a Cuirassier Nodens and it packs quite a punch while providing support. Mings are always surprised when I unpressed and then hit them with a full clip but as you state not so great against Arthur. In general though I agree with your assessment. Basically, if you look at it, newer bots on top - older bots on bottom. Interestingly I do not think all weapons shake out that way but probably newer weapons would in general rank higher than the older weapons.
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Post by frunobulax on Aug 21, 2020 4:55:31 GMT -5
I would put the Haechi above Hover and Raven. It can easily out brawl both of those bots even without the Legendary Pilot. Remember, this isn't entierly based on who would win in a 1v1. Haeichi has very little team play, whereas hover and raven both have amazing beacon capping potential. Its true that Hae is fast, but only over short distances every 30 seconds. Hover and raven (and strider) are some of the best bots for pushing the center early on - given you have a good last stand and advanced repair kit to live through the whole team trying to shoot you off center. Guess that's why we saw Hovers and Ravens dominate when they came out.
Of course they didn't. IIRC, the dominating bots at the time were Bulg and Haechi. Hover were easy target practice. |
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Post by Adazahi on Aug 21, 2020 5:05:55 GMT -5
Remember, this isn't entierly based on who would win in a 1v1. Haeichi has very little team play, whereas hover and raven both have amazing beacon capping potential. Its true that Hae is fast, but only over short distances every 30 seconds. Hover and raven (and strider) are some of the best bots for pushing the center early on - given you have a good last stand and advanced repair kit to live through the whole team trying to shoot you off center. Guess that's why we saw Hovers and Ravens dominate when they came out.
Of course they didn't. IIRC, the dominating bots at the time were Bulg and Haechi. Hover were easy target practice. At their time dash bots were the best. Same for griffin, and britbots, but not anymore. Haeichis are free silver for energy weapons, Bulgs are free silver for cryo weapons and kumis are free silver for all weapons. Hover and raven have the one big upside of crazy burst speed to push a beacon early game and secure it for your team. I'd much rather load into a game and see a raven load in beside me than a hae or bulg. |
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Post by #1 worst pilot on Aug 21, 2020 13:45:08 GMT -5
Still run my merc, the fear days are over, but it will still work. Maybe my stubbornness, but ill never take it out of the line up. Good timing and tactics can get rid of a careless Ravana and scorpion quickly, but ehh, its to the point that is doesn't even matter, kill one Ravana, 5 pop up in its place. All golden and altering dimensions as they do, i don't know how the space time continuum has not been split in two and the whole War Robots universe sucked in and crushed in the vast black hole that is pixonic logic, greed and shortsightedness
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