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Post by CrownBlack on Aug 14, 2020 7:56:17 GMT -5
i am on hiatus at the moment just because of 「dookie」 like this. Pix is constantly 「fluffernutter」ing with your hangar. You put Ag and Au and time to build up a bot and then they come in and tear it down.
I remember them buffing the cool down like what 6 months ago and here they are screwing with the ability again.
I personally don't care what they do to the Ravana because it is boring AF to play. I however care about them picking and choosing what bots and weapons to build up and which ones they castrate.
Implement a bot then just leave it alone same with weapons.
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Post by Deadeye on Aug 14, 2020 9:27:44 GMT -5
I really think what we'll see here will be a meta shift back towards stealth and tanks (this is strictly BR and Dom modes like Joopiter was discussing) for beacon control. Especially with the Disguise Unit out now. You can't turn a beacon in PS or Trans, but you can while in stealth. I suspect clans will move towards the previous squad tactics involving Lokis, [Nightingales] combined with tanks for holding the beacons. Ravanas will find a niche somewhere, but since beacons are king, the big clans will shift to the next best beacon control strategy and this was/is the next most viable. I think the Disguise unit will suffice for end game beacon capturing with Mings afloat. I'm sure folks will find new ways to completely dominate the battlefield. |
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Post by frunobulax on Aug 14, 2020 10:41:19 GMT -5
This will 'potentially' be the end of the Ravana and phase shift (at least in Beacon Rush and Domination). If you can't use transcendence or phase shift if you are 1 v 1 on a contested beacon then it's just not worth the risk in BR or Dom. Don't think so. With elite speed and decent firepower, you have a bot that can wait out all enemy skills and win most 1v1 battles. We might see a few more Ravanas with other weapons, weapons that have more sustained DPS. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 11:58:35 GMT -5
I really think what we'll see here will be a meta shift back towards stealth and tanks (this is strictly BR and Dom modes like Joopiter was discussing) for beacon control. Especially with the Disguise Unit out now. You can't turn a beacon in PS or Trans, but you can while in stealth. I suspect clans will move towards the previous squad tactics involving Lokis, Nightingales combined with tanks for holding the beacons. Ravanas will find a niche somewhere, but since beacons are king, the big clans will shift to the next best beacon control strategy and this was/is the next most viable. I think the Disguise unit will suffice for end game beacon capturing with Mings afloat. I'm sure folks will find new ways to completely dominate the battlefield. Stealth is or should be very easily countered in Champions. Ravanas are the best counters to Ao Mings in BR and DOM. That’s the role they shine at and what sets them apart from other damage dealing options. Beacon capping was close to impossible with well piloted high level Mings flying around in high champions before Ravanas. We are likely going back to that. Taking them out is an indirect major absurd buff to ever camping 600m Mings, as well as a likely sales booster for Scorpions, a pretty useless bot against Ravanas. This is not about rebalance. When has any Pixonic’s move ever been? |
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Post by non4me on Aug 14, 2020 14:50:37 GMT -5
Pix is so ?fluffernutter?ed up, BTW...anything to do with nerf's buffs whatever is completely BS. The list is long of crap we've been fed. Think the nerf to specter and the buff to blitz. They're going to nerf Ravana and do nothing with Blitz?...and I don't read anybody being upset by blitz. OBTW...no compensation for time and effort to bring a bot or weapon to competitive levels. Lies and more lies...whatever...quit or play on! Blitz isn't nearly as OP as Ravana. It's not as fast as Phantom/Gale/Loki (even with jump), and easily killed when the ability runs out.
I strongly dislike a lot of nerfs/buffs in the recent past, but for once I'll comment "well done, perfect" in the TS session if this comes to pass.
The ultimate frustration is that as a f2p, when I get hold of a meta bot, level it, wpns, and pilot up, figure out how to be effective with it...it represents a significant amount of time and effort. and that my friend is the story of Pix and Walking War Robots. Just pisses me off to no end. Ravana can be a little overpowering but can be dealt with...easier than other types (titans). |
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Post by Joopiter on Aug 14, 2020 21:23:13 GMT -5
This will 'potentially' be the end of the Ravana and phase shift (at least in Beacon Rush and Domination). If you can't use transcendence or phase shift if you are 1 v 1 on a contested beacon then it's just not worth the risk in BR or Dom. Don't think so. With elite speed and decent firepower, you have a bot that can wait out all enemy skills and win most 1v1 battles. We might see a few more Ravanas with other weapons, weapons that have more sustained DPS. If you can lose a beacon while on it by hitting the ability button then it'll come out of hangars pretty quick in competitive squads. I do think some squadding folks will just deal with it for a while and the average solo player will continue using it though. Was a big investment by a lot people and they'll make it work (use ability for mobility and adv heal in lieu of PS). I've done some testing and i'm gonna be optimistic that we might be safe in a 1 vs 1. Of course we'll find out A LOT tomorrow. Here's a snapshot of how long it takes for a beacon to change:  If I eyeball it, it seems to be longer than 3 seconds. |
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Post by frunobulax on Aug 15, 2020 1:14:39 GMT -5
Ravanas are the best counters to Ao Mings in BR and DOM. That’s the role they shine at and what sets them apart from other damage dealing options. Beacon capping was close to impossible with well piloted high level Mings flying around in high champions before Ravanas. We are likely going back to that. Taking them out is an indirect major absurd buff to ever camping 600m Mings, as well as a likely sales booster for Scorpions, a pretty useless bot against Ravanas. This is not about rebalance. When has any Pixonic’s move ever been? Guess you don't play in Champs. Mings will have 3 Ravanas for breakfast, but in the early game you might not be able to turn a beacon for 4 minutes because of an endless Ravana stream. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2020 11:09:50 GMT -5
Ravanas are the best counters to Ao Mings in BR and DOM. That’s the role they shine at and what sets them apart from other damage dealing options. Beacon capping was close to impossible with well piloted high level Mings flying around in high champions before Ravanas. We are likely going back to that. Taking them out is an indirect major absurd buff to ever camping 600m Mings, as well as a likely sales booster for Scorpions, a pretty useless bot against Ravanas. This is not about rebalance. When has any Pixonic’s move ever been? Guess you don't play in Champs. Mings will have 3 Ravanas for breakfast, but in the early game you might not be able to turn a beacon for 4 minutes because of an endless Ravana stream. I realize I may have expressed my point quite poorly, and I apologize for that. My point is that Ravanas can turn beacons even under titans’ fire, which counters their ability to dominate many BR, DOM games, and that not even stealthed bots perform that task as well as Ravanas do. And this is the sole reason why depriving Ravanas from their ability to cap beacons while in transcendence is a move that would not make me happy. That’s basically it. I also realize my post may have come across as condescending. I surely didn't mean to. But you surely did. |
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Post by spectre729 on Aug 15, 2020 11:20:18 GMT -5
i haven't seen a lot of Ravanas and phase shift, but when I do, they're in masters and they are heading for our home beacon with me using a rhino to defend while everyone else minds their own business
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