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Post by Desc440 on Jun 19, 2020 11:46:21 GMT -5
As many have speculated, it looks like Quarker, Atomizer and Nucleon may be getting a boost as the Test Server page mentions a rebalance for these weapons getting tested this weekend. No specifics as to what but I'm guessing at least a 10% damage boost to Atomizer and Nucleon.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 19, 2020 11:53:48 GMT -5
I was expecting this... hope they didn't do it too much... even 10% may be too much... IDK. Was thinking 7.5%. I don't think it's far from good... just not quite there. If they go too far with it, though, everyone will get them and the complaints will soar if they have to dial it back down a bit.
Ah well... either way I wanna run a Lazerhose Lance, and it be worth running, pretty badly. Here's to hoping that they do it right!
IMO, YMMV
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 12:24:00 GMT -5
I wanna get a Lazerhose Fenrir up to speed...that could be tasty...oh MY!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 19, 2020 12:46:07 GMT -5
I wanna get a Lazerhose Fenrir up to speed...that could be tasty...oh MY! I did try that with my 1.9 Fen, but man, that thing is just an Ag pool most of the games I tried it in... no matter what I ran on it. I am seriously wanting to upgrade it but I can't play on my iOS account much until my new (to me... not really new) phone gets in... so def don't have the Ag for it atm. I imagine that, overall, the experience would be similar between the Ghost Lance and the Fenrir as far as being able to take a bit of damage while dishing it out. Maybe an Ancile Atomizer Lance build would be more synonymous with the Fenrir while it's shield was deployed... but you get the gist. Either way, I bet it would work well on a Fenrir that has some... girth... in the endurance department. IMO, YMMV |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 13:15:30 GMT -5
I wanna get a Lazerhose Fenrir up to speed...that could be tasty...oh MY! I did try that with my 1.9 Fen, but man, that thing is just an Ag pool most of the games I tried it in... no matter what I ran on it. I am seriously wanting to upgrade it but I can't play on my iOS account much until my new (to me... not really new) phone gets in... so def don't have the Ag for it atm. I imagine that, overall, the experience would be similar between the Ghost Lance and the Fenrir as far as being able to take a bit of damage while dishing it out. Maybe an Ancile Atomizer Lance build would be more synonymous with the Fenrir while it's shield was deployed... but you get the gist. Either way, I bet it would work well on a Fenrir that has some... girth... in the endurance department. IMO, YMMV Fenrir gotta have some girth....lol |
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Post by Desc440 on Jun 19, 2020 15:05:02 GMT -5
I was expecting this... hope they didn't do it too much... even 10% may be too much... IDK. Was thinking 7.5%. I don't think it's far from good... just not quite there. If they go too far with it, though, everyone will get them and the complaints will soar if they have to dial it back down a bit. I think 10% isn't even enough for the Nucleon, tbh. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jun 19, 2020 16:51:33 GMT -5
I was expecting this... hope they didn't do it too much... even 10% may be too much... IDK. Was thinking 7.5%. I don't think it's far from good... just not quite there. If they go too far with it, though, everyone will get them and the complaints will soar if they have to dial it back down a bit. I think 10% isn't even enough for the Nucleon, tbh. Fair enough... think it's the damage or the way it behaves (Such a short amount of good accuracy) that is the biggest problem? |
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Post by Desc440 on Jun 19, 2020 17:35:36 GMT -5
I think 10% isn't even enough for the Nucleon, tbh. Fair enough... think it's the damage or the way it behaves (Such a short amount of good accuracy) that is the biggest problem? I can live with the lack of accuracy if it's brutally effective point blank... but it is not. That's not to say that longer period of accurate shooting wouldn't be welcome, of course. |
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Post by BB on Jun 19, 2020 17:48:09 GMT -5
Man, I hope you are right. I’ve already MK2d a pair of atomizers and am currently leveling a Nucleon for the express purpose of running them on my Fenway. My thinking is point blank unlimited lazerhosery HAS to be a good thing. I love my tasers, but I would much prefer to not slip all over the place while point blank with the Ravana conveyor belt.
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Post by kuto on Jun 20, 2020 9:12:47 GMT -5
 The Atomizer one has to be a joke... |
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Post by Desc440 on Jun 20, 2020 9:14:31 GMT -5
Ok so apparently, Quarker's getting 15% more damage, Atomizer gets 2% and Nucleon 16%, as well as the heating mechanic are getting reworked (no detail on what that means but I think the guns are staying accurate for a longer period of time, looking at TS vids).
I find it very strange that Quarker is getting almost as big a boost as Nucleon when it was the only one that was "fine", while Atomizer is getting almost nothing.
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Post by BB on Jun 20, 2020 9:21:48 GMT -5
My MK2 Atomizers do OK, but a mere 2% ?!? Compared to 15% and 16% for the others, this is like a personal jab ffs
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Jun 20, 2020 10:23:47 GMT -5
Fairly sure that the 2% is a typo. They probably meant 20%.
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Post by CarlosDanger on Jun 20, 2020 10:44:52 GMT -5
Darn, I was planning on skipping this class of weapon and focusing on cryo until the next meta weapon came out. I still might by necessity. Even with a buff, burst is still king at the moment. With just two rimes you can almost instantly slow and increase all incoming damage on an opponent, It would have to be a pretty big buff to trump that.
I feel like the game is overall balanced at the moment, exception may be 600m titan weapons. So it comes as no surprise that Pix wants to disrupt it. I’m guessing slumping sales and interest in eMachs has spawned this, not game balance. In spite of them being handed out in event chests for the past two months, I see almost none on the field.
It would be nice to see Pix put some effort into their servers, improving HUD interface (reload please) and other quality of life features. I certainly hope the servers are going to be able to handle rendering when the remastered editions start to drop.
Rather than buff eMachs, nerf the freeze accumulation on cryo class and then EVERY WEAPON including eMachs will be viable.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jun 20, 2020 13:12:10 GMT -5
I wanna get a Lazerhose Fenrir up to speed...that could be tasty...oh MY! Nucleon Atomiser Fenrir is excellent! |
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Post by ~The Boa King~ on Jun 20, 2020 13:29:38 GMT -5
Fair enough... think it's the damage or the way it behaves (Such a short amount of good accuracy) that is the biggest problem? I can live with the lack of accuracy if it's brutally effective point blank... but it is not. That's not to say that longer period of accurate shooting wouldn't be welcome, of course. i feel like quarker and atomizer are fine, perfectly balanced should not be changed etc. but nucleon does seem a bit weak, maybe 10% buff would balance it. Then again Pix doesnt go for balancing... |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jun 22, 2020 15:07:12 GMT -5
Fair enough... think it's the damage or the way it behaves (Such a short amount of good accuracy) that is the biggest problem? I can live with the lack of accuracy if it's brutally effective point blank... but it is not. That's not to say that longer period of accurate shooting wouldn't be welcome, of course. Agreed. At 2.12, it's weak at a distance and weak at point blank. It needs buffs in both accuracy and point-blank damage for me to put it back on my TFalc. |
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Post by ~The Boa King~ on Jun 22, 2020 16:44:47 GMT -5
I can live with the lack of accuracy if it's brutally effective point blank... but it is not. That's not to say that longer period of accurate shooting wouldn't be welcome, of course. Agreed. At 2.12, it's weak at a distance and weak at point blank. It needs buffs in both accuracy and point-blank damage for me to put it back on my TFalc. Are you sure you’re playing it right? Nucleon atomizer and quarker have a specific thing you need to do to make them accurate |
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Jun 22, 2020 17:00:41 GMT -5
Agreed. At 2.12, it's weak at a distance and weak at point blank. It needs buffs in both accuracy and point-blank damage for me to put it back on my TFalc. Are you sure you’re playing it right? Nucleon atomizer and quarker have a specific thing you need to do to make them accurate Thanks, yeah, the Nucleon compared to the Ember is a different ball of wax. The Ember is perfectly accurate, with splash, for 10 seconds in a row out to 350m. It lets me drop the hammer on slower bots. Quicker bots up close are a lot easier to hit due to the width of the "Napalm Handshake of Friendship." The Nucleon as it is right now, is really only a counter to the Ravana up close. And because it doesn't do enough damage up close it's meh compared to the Ember. I've tried the experimentation repeatedly. You can try to repeat my results but it'll cost you dearly; a 2.12 Ember and a 2.12 Nucleon. And if you really want to repeat my disappointment you'll need a 2.12 Glory as well. Just sayin'. I see very few Nucleons in the wild. And when I do, they don't scare me. Post-buff, we'll all see. |
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Post by teraflx on Jun 22, 2020 18:34:00 GMT -5
Thank goodness, I sunk some big silver in my lazerhose Nightingale and have been thoroughly disappointed. I am guessing they meant 12% or 20% on the Atomizer. 12% is more in line probably, a 20% buff is nuts.
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Post by Joopiter on Jun 22, 2020 19:03:59 GMT -5
Ok so apparently, Quarker's getting 15% more damage, Atomizer gets 2% and Nucleon 16%, as well as the heating mechanic are getting reworked (no detail on what that means but I think the guns are staying accurate for a longer period of time, looking at TS vids). I find it very strange that Quarker is getting almost as big a boost as Nucleon when it was the only one that was "fine", while Atomizer is getting almost nothing. Fairly sure that the 2% is a typo. They probably meant 20%. My MK2 Atomizers do OK, but a mere 2% ?!? Compared to 15% and 16% for the others, this is like a personal jab ffs What they don't say in the notes about the overheating mechanics is that the atomizer fires much longer now without overheating. I played an atomizer leech and atomizer ao guang and those atomizers were awesome with the longer fire time. I can't say for how many seconds but it seemed to fire 30% longer without overheating if I was to take a stab at it. I'm hoping someone like AYGIR does a youtube video comparing TS laser machine guns to the live server. |
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Post by BB on Jun 24, 2020 12:25:06 GMT -5
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