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Post by Garbage game on Jun 7, 2020 11:07:52 GMT -5
.5 to .63? Lol ?whiskey tango foxtrot?? And people make a big deal about this ?dookie?? People on here are quick to complain about anything that pix does, and act like it's the end of the world and will doom the game. Fact of the matter is this: Pilots have been out for over a year now. A lot of players have had enough time to get and upgrade the pilots they want to an optimal level, to the point where they aren't upgrading them anymore. Outside of pilots and modules (which have been out for over a year and a half now, and face the same stagnant problems that pilots are now facing, outside of introducing new modules and pilots) there isn't a whole lot of value and use for gold. Since a lot of players are now satisfied with where their pilots are at, a lot of them are questioning what to do with their surplus gold (there's been treads on here about this), which is now starting to pile up. So this new pilot system is a way to keep the game moving forward and gives people a reason to keep playing and earning gold! Say what you want about this ever changing game (for better or for worse), but one thing is for sure, it never gets boring as there is always something new to work towards. That's what keeps people like me playing this game even after 4 years. You haven't reached the finish line and still have stuff to do. They're introducing new, stronger premium modules. Overdrive and Disguise will be a big gold sink once they can be purchased for gold. And a lot of people maxed Regular pilots so they'd be transferable, with this new system, transferring pilots will cost a lot more than a 50g reroll.
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Post by rags on Jun 7, 2020 18:32:53 GMT -5
.5 to .63? Lol ?whiskey tango foxtrot?? And people make a big deal about this ?dookie?? People on here are quick to complain about anything that pix does, and act like it's the end of the world and will doom the game. Fact of the matter is this: Pilots have been out for over a year now. A lot of players have had enough time to get and upgrade the pilots they want to an optimal level, to the point where they aren't upgrading them anymore. Outside of pilots and modules (which have been out for over a year and a half now, and face the same stagnant problems that pilots are now facing, outside of introducing new modules and pilots) there isn't a whole lot of value and use for gold. Since a lot of players are now satisfied with where their pilots are at, a lot of them are questioning what to do with their surplus gold (there's been treads on here about this), which is now starting to pile up. So this new pilot system is a way to keep the game moving forward and gives people a reason to keep playing and earning gold! Say what you want about this ever changing game (for better or for worse), but one thing is for sure, it never gets boring as there is always something new to work towards. That's what keeps people like me playing this game even after 4 years. You haven't reached the finish line and still have stuff to do. This might be the most pixonic 「bum-bum」 kissing ive ever read. I mean itâs one thing to keep rants in rants, itâs another to have the rest of the forum infested with shills in every thread. our gold is piling up and we need new ways to use it? That thread title abt surplus gold was sarcastic. A stupid rhino costs 3k gold. Every time I wanna play a different bot I gotta drop 5k on a pilot for it to even be usable. Only ppl who pay car payment to pixonic every month have gold piling up. Gtfo bro.
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Post by go red on Jun 7, 2020 18:55:58 GMT -5
My gut says they will convert out existing pilot skills over to the equivalent tier that gives the same benefit that we have now. They may not, but there would be outcry and a very legitimate case for refunds on Au bought in the through the various app stores. But obviously new pilots and new skills are going to cost a pile more to upgrade than they did before. Yea old economy Pilots and new economy Pilots, then after a year or so they will say no more old economy pilots
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Post by kingjames4 on Jun 7, 2020 19:34:30 GMT -5
People on here are quick to complain about anything that pix does, and act like it's the end of the world and will doom the game. Fact of the matter is this: Pilots have been out for over a year now. A lot of players have had enough time to get and upgrade the pilots they want to an optimal level, to the point where they aren't upgrading them anymore. Outside of pilots and modules (which have been out for over a year and a half now, and face the same stagnant problems that pilots are now facing, outside of introducing new modules and pilots) there isn't a whole lot of value and use for gold. Since a lot of players are now satisfied with where their pilots are at, a lot of them are questioning what to do with their surplus gold (there's been treads on here about this), which is now starting to pile up. So this new pilot system is a way to keep the game moving forward and gives people a reason to keep playing and earning gold! Say what you want about this ever changing game (for better or for worse), but one thing is for sure, it never gets boring as there is always something new to work towards. That's what keeps people like me playing this game even after 4 years. You haven't reached the finish line and still have stuff to do. This might be the most pixonic ?bum-bum? kissing ive ever read. I mean itâ??s one thing to keep rants in rants, itâ??s another to have the rest of the forum infested with shills in every thread. our gold is piling up and we need new ways to use it? That thread title abt surplus gold was sarcastic. A stupid rhino costs 3k gold. Every time I wanna play a different bot I gotta drop 5k on a pilot for it to even be usable. Only ppl who pay car payment to pixonic every month have gold piling up. Gtfo bro. Dude I haven't paid $.01 to pix in the 4 years I've been playing and I have almost 20k in gold. Gold is easy to come by, you get 115 every day just for daily tasks and ads alone. If you're buying stupid rhinos and changing pilots all the time, I think you got bigger problems my friend.
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Post by rags on Jun 7, 2020 20:57:41 GMT -5
This might be the most pixonic ?bum-bum? kissing ive ever read. I mean itâ??s one thing to keep rants in rants, itâ??s another to have the rest of the forum infested with shills in every thread. our gold is piling up and we need new ways to use it? That thread title abt surplus gold was sarcastic. A stupid rhino costs 3k gold. Every time I wanna play a different bot I gotta drop 5k on a pilot for it to even be usable. Only ppl who pay car payment to pixonic every month have gold piling up. Gtfo bro. Dude I haven't paid $.01 to pix in the 4 years I've been playing and I have almost 20k in gold. Gold is easy to come by, you get 115 every day just for daily tasks and ads alone. If you're buying stupid rhinos and changing pilots all the time, I think you got bigger problems my friend. Post your awesome hangar with maxed pilots and your 20k gold surplus so we can all learn from the 1 cent F2P God
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Post by Joopiter on Jun 7, 2020 23:20:22 GMT -5
People on here are quick to complain about anything that pix does, and act like it's the end of the world and will doom the game. Fact of the matter is this: Pilots have been out for over a year now. A lot of players have had enough time to get and upgrade the pilots they want to an optimal level, to the point where they aren't upgrading them anymore. Outside of pilots and modules (which have been out for over a year and a half now, and face the same stagnant problems that pilots are now facing, outside of introducing new modules and pilots) there isn't a whole lot of value and use for gold. Since a lot of players are now satisfied with where their pilots are at, a lot of them are questioning what to do with their surplus gold (there's been treads on here about this), which is now starting to pile up. So this new pilot system is a way to keep the game moving forward and gives people a reason to keep playing and earning gold! Say what you want about this ever changing game (for better or for worse), but one thing is for sure, it never gets boring as there is always something new to work towards. That's what keeps people like me playing this game even after 4 years. You haven't reached the finish line and still have stuff to do. This might be the most pixonic ?bum-bum? kissing ive ever read. I mean itâ??s one thing to keep rants in rants, itâ??s another to have the rest of the forum infested with shills in every thread. our gold is piling up and we need new ways to use it? That thread title abt surplus gold was sarcastic. A stupid rhino costs 3k gold. Every time I wanna play a different bot I gotta drop 5k on a pilot for it to even be usable. Only ppl who pay car payment to pixonic every month have gold piling up. Gtfo bro. Rags, if someone says they aren't bothered by something that you think is negative, then it doesn't give you a right to attack them. Keep this 「dookie」 civil. I am one of those that'S not particularly happy with this pilot change (that is still only being tested). But I'm not gonna call someone out personally for asking there to be less doom and gloom... sheesh. Take it down a COUPLE NOTCHES.
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Post by seanh on Jun 8, 2020 2:39:34 GMT -5
There are two distinct and different things happening here and I fear folks on both sides of the argument are missing the others point.
Before I get into it, there is an assumption that the new tiers will cost more than at present. A fair assumption you might say but an assumption none the less. There is a chance that they do not do this and put in a more incremental pricing model which would nullify my second point below and on balance would not be a bad thing. But my inner cynic doesn't think that will happen.
Firstly for some Legendary Pilot and possible for other skills on regular pilots there is the option to get more for paying more. That is what has always been happening in War Robots and nobody can be too surprised about that. It does increase the power imbalance and it does make it even more P2W, but they have been doing that consistently for years now, so it is what it is.
The second part, which I certainly have a far bigger issue with, is simple old price inflation. It appears that if I have a pilot with a skill that cost me X to get, it will cost me more than X in the new system to get the same exact level of that skill on an identical pilot. This aspect isn't a new revenue stream or an opportunity to spend more for more, this is just increasing the price of what is there already.
I do completely get what their business model is and the need for any business to make money. But as a customer of that business it is perfectly reasonable to ask why prices are going up for existing products. It doesn't matter at all if you are F2P or a big spender, nor if your Au reserves are healthy or non existent.
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Post by kingjames4 on Jun 8, 2020 7:28:23 GMT -5
Dude I haven't paid $.01 to pix in the 4 years I've been playing and I have almost 20k in gold. Gold is easy to come by, you get 115 every day just for daily tasks and ads alone. If you're buying stupid rhinos and changing pilots all the time, I think you got bigger problems my friend. Post your awesome hangar with maxed pilots and your 20k gold surplus so we can all learn from the 1 cent F2P God Ask and you shall receive! Below is snap shots of my stats and hanger from the end of season last month, plus a current shot to see my resources. And I hate to break it to you; I'm not a God, just your humble King
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Post by frunobulax on Jun 8, 2020 7:45:40 GMT -5
.5 to .63? Lol ?whiskey tango foxtrot?? And people make a big deal about this ?dookie?? People on here are quick to complain about anything that pix does, and act like it's the end of the world and will doom the game. Fact of the matter is this: Pilots have been out for over a year now. A lot of players have had enough time to get and upgrade the pilots they want to an optimal level, to the point where they aren't upgrading them anymore. Outside of pilots and modules (which have been out for over a year and a half now, and face the same stagnant problems that pilots are now facing, outside of introducing new modules and pilots) there isn't a whole lot of value and use for gold. Since a lot of players are now satisfied with where their pilots are at, a lot of them are questioning what to do with their surplus gold (there's been treads on here about this), which is now starting to pile up. So this new pilot system is a way to keep the game moving forward and gives people a reason to keep playing and earning gold! Nonsense. Pilots are weapon- and robot-specific. Whenever a bot is replaced or a new legendary pilot with a new crucial skill comes out (like Lee), the spending begins again. And as the amount of gold that one can win in free play is very limited. Depending on how far you want to promote your pilots, costs are significant (5 skills amount to ~10k gold: 5500 gold promotions, plus whatever is required to roll skills, plus 2500 gold for a legendary pilot).
If you enjoy gameplay in a lower league, you don't need pilots at all. If you want to stay competetive in Champ, you have to spend and buy gold.
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Post by frunobulax on Jun 8, 2020 7:50:34 GMT -5
They're introducing new, stronger premium modules. Overdrive and Disguise will be a big gold sink once they can be purchased for gold. I think Overdrive is completely overrated. Slightly increased damage output is worthless if you're fighting titans, bots with high DR or last stand. Disguise looks like a decent addition that is comparable to Last Stand. Now, I think that Last Stand is bad and should be removed (as I dislike immunities of all kinds), but as Pixo won't do it, we might as well habe Disguise.
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Post by Garbage game on Jun 8, 2020 11:38:12 GMT -5
They're introducing new, stronger premium modules. Overdrive and Disguise will be a big gold sink once they can be purchased for gold. I think Overdrive is completely overrated. Slightly increased damage output is worthless if you're fighting titans, bots with high DR or last stand. Disguise looks like a decent addition that is comparable to Last Stand. Now, I think that Last Stand is bad and should be removed (as I dislike immunities of all kinds), but as Pixo won't do it, we might as well habe Disguise. 50% damage is a lot more than “slightly increased output.” Take a few hits as a Glacier Ao Jun and you’ll be mowing down Arthurs in no time.
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Post by rags on Jun 8, 2020 13:38:26 GMT -5
Post your awesome hangar with maxed pilots and your 20k gold surplus so we can all learn from the 1 cent F2P God Ask and you shall receive! Below is snap shots of my stats and hanger from the end of season last month, plus a current shot to see my resources. And I hate to break it to you; I'm not a God, just your humble King you havnt spend a cent in 4 years? I call BS
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Post by Loganspawn on Jun 8, 2020 13:50:52 GMT -5
Post your awesome hangar with maxed pilots and your 20k gold surplus so we can all learn from the 1 cent F2P God Ask and you shall receive! Below is snap shots of my stats and hanger from the end of season last month, plus a current shot to see my resources. And I hate to break it to you; I'm not a God, just your humble King Very nice hangar with only 10k wins and no money spent. I will say you choose wisely and did not start 50 different bots and weapons wasting resources. Good man.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jun 8, 2020 13:53:49 GMT -5
Ask and you shall receive! Below is snap shots of my stats and hanger from the end of season last month, plus a current shot to see my resources. And I hate to break it to you; I'm not a God, just your humble King you havnt spend a cent in 4 years? I call BS Hey now if he used he resources correctly its completely possible. Lets not be hasty to judge others without proof. If he is lying he is only hurting himself, I found it hard to believe before I thought it through with giving him the benefit of the doubt that he isn't a liar and found it possible.
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Post by rags on Jun 8, 2020 14:33:25 GMT -5
you havnt spend a cent in 4 years? I call BS Hey now if he used he resources correctly its completely possible. Lets not be hasty to judge others without proof. If he is lying he is only hurting himself, I found it hard to believe before I thought it through with giving him the benefit of the doubt that he isn't a liar and found it possible. then I have a bridge to sell you
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Post by Loganspawn on Jun 8, 2020 14:49:18 GMT -5
Hey now if he used he resources correctly its completely possible. Lets not be hasty to judge others without proof. If he is lying he is only hurting himself, I found it hard to believe before I thought it through with giving him the benefit of the doubt that he isn't a liar and found it possible. then I have a bridge to sell you Didn't a Mod ask you to chill just a few post up. I really don't need all the haters in my life. Most of my clan wont even come here anymore as through the last few years the negativity has been insane. If you don't agree let it go bro. Calling people liars and then basically calling me naive are not ways to make friends and influence people. It is a game. Since you called him out lets see your hangar oh great and all knowing one then I will show you mine and we can have a wee wee size contest. I am out of this thread before I say something nasty but I will take a look back to see if you actually post your hangar like the guy you called a liar did.
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Post by kingjames4 on Jun 8, 2020 15:28:08 GMT -5
Very nice hangar with only 10k wins and no money spent. I will say you choose wisely and did not start 50 different bots and weapons wasting resources. Good man. Thanks! You're right, I focus my resources and time on one project at a time, and put a lot of thought into what comes next. I hate wasting resources. I'm still haunted to this day by trying to get a strong 2nd, long distance hanger back in late 2018. That was before modules were released and made it impossible for F2P players to have more then one strong hanger. All the time and resources I put into Mk2ing three Tridents and I barely got to use them
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Post by Deadeye on Jun 8, 2020 15:31:28 GMT -5
Hey now if he used he resources correctly its completely possible. Lets not be hasty to judge others without proof. If he is lying he is only hurting himself, I found it hard to believe before I thought it through with giving him the benefit of the doubt that he isn't a liar and found it possible. then I have a bridge to sell you This is an official warning. Loganspawn and kingjames4 have played along with you and you continue to push despite being warned by Joopiter. You need to drop it or you'll be taking a break from the forums. People are allowed to have differing opinions on here, but we all need to be able to respect each others opinions for this to work. Everyone please feel free to continue to discuss the potential pilot changes (none of which looked good to me personally). However, if this continues, I'll have to lock the thread.
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Post by rags on Jun 8, 2020 15:47:28 GMT -5
then I have a bridge to sell you Didn't a Mod ask you to chill just a few post up. I really don't need all the haters in my life. Most of my clan wont even come here anymore as through the last few years the negativity has been insane. If you don't agree let it go bro. Calling people liars and then basically calling me naive are not ways to make friends and influence people. It is a game. Since you called him out lets see your hangar oh great and all knowing one then I will show you mine and we can have a wee wee size contest. I am out of this thread before I say something nasty but I will take a look back to see if you actually post your hangar like the guy you called a liar did. I’ve posted my hangar here plenty of times, I’m not the one claiming I maxed it out without spending a cent. this guy literally said raising the gold cost of pilots is a good thing that keeps the game moving forward. But I’m a hater for calling that out. Ok ?
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Post by Deadeye on Jun 8, 2020 16:15:50 GMT -5
You asked to see his F2P hanger and didn't like it or believed it when you saw it. Look through his stats. He's got almost 11000 wins so he definitely grinds resources. Nothing in his SS proves he has spent anything from what I can tell. His Titan is a low level Ming with low level MGs, so no money there. All his weapons are smart, high DPS weapons that are over a year old (no cryos, atomizers or anything that new) and his newest bots came out last fall. I see no reason he couldn't have maxed those all during that time with enough play. Is it really so hard to believe what he says is true???
And he's entitled to his opinion, regardless of if you believe it or not. Nothing wrong asking to see someone's hanger, but come-on?!? You can obviously choose to not believe him, or you can get out a note pad and take notes. It's an impressive F2P hanger.
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Post by rags on Jun 8, 2020 16:56:23 GMT -5
You asked to see his F2P hanger and didn't like it or believed it when you saw it. Look through his stats. He's got almost 11000 wins so he definitely grinds resources. Nothing in his SS proves he has spent anything from what I can tell. His Titan is a low level Ming with low level MGs, so no money there. All his weapons are smart, high DPS weapons that are over a year old (no cryos, atomizers or anything that new) and his newest bots came out last fall. I see no reason he couldn't have maxed those all during that time with enough play. Is it really so hard to believe what he says is true??? And he's entitled to his opinion, regardless of if you believe it or not. Nothing wrong asking to see someone's hanger, but come-on?!? You can obviously choose to not believe him, or you can get out a note pad and take notes. It's an impressive F2P hanger. Yes it’s very impressive F2P. I’ve grinded more than most and spent hundreds through the years on constant premium, small deals, events and yet have far less items that are 2.12. I concede to his F2P mastery. I was a doubter but now I am changed. I need to focus better and the gold will pile up. We should just give thanks to pixonic for creating new and exciting ways for us to spend it. Peace and love be with you all.
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Post by foxypotato on Jun 8, 2020 19:29:36 GMT -5
Serious question anyone can answer:
What's the point in being F2P if you are still going to run the bots that are destroying the game? I've never understood this. Why do we get upset with those paying for an advantage and but think it is great when someone else grinds for it?
I thought F2P was about protesting pixonic. What are you protesting by refusing to spend? Is it not about protest and about just being F2P out of principal and even if you loved the game and company you would still be F2P?
That is the only thing that makes sense because I can't understand why anyone would be angry with pixonic for what they have done to the game and then go run all those game braking builds and be an active participant in destruction of the game but its OK you are doing it for free?
I've never had a problem with spenders. You are either part of the problem with the bots and modules you run or you are not.
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Post by Joopiter on Jun 8, 2020 20:31:13 GMT -5
Serious question anyone can answer: What's the point in being F2P if you are still going to run the bots that are destroying the game? I've never understood this. Why do we get upset with those paying for an advantage and but think it is great when someone else grinds for it? I thought F2P was about protesting pixonic. What are you protesting by refusing to spend? Is it not about protest and about just being F2P out of principal and even if you loved the game and company you would still be F2P? That is the only thing that makes sense because I can't understand why anyone would be angry with pixonic for what they have done to the game and then go run all those game braking builds and be an active participant in destruction of the game but its OK you are doing it for free? I've never had a problem with spenders. You are either part of the problem with the bots and modules you run or you are not. Because some people just enjoy the game but don't feel like spending money. They're not angry or frustrated with Pixonic, they just don't feel like spending. If they grind out an entire hangar of leeches with a plasma ming and that's what they enjoy playing on the battlefield then it's as simple as that. If you don't feel like spending money on a mobile game then you're not automatically required to protest the developer.
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Post by Garbage game on Jun 9, 2020 0:29:50 GMT -5
Serious question anyone can answer: What's the point in being F2P if you are still going to run the bots that are destroying the game? I've never understood this. Why do we get upset with those paying for an advantage and but think it is great when someone else grinds for it? I thought F2P was about protesting pixonic. What are you protesting by refusing to spend? Is it not about protest and about just being F2P out of principal and even if you loved the game and company you would still be F2P? That is the only thing that makes sense because I can't understand why anyone would be angry with pixonic for what they have done to the game and then go run all those game braking builds and be an active participant in destruction of the game but its OK you are doing it for free? I've never had a problem with spenders. You are either part of the problem with the bots and modules you run or you are not. I’m protesting the monetization schemes in an inherently unbalanced game. If everyone was f2p the battlefield would be a lot more balanced, especially when new content arrives. But you have people with a $3000 horribly overpowered bot the moment it comes out. Games that are really successful (ie League of Legends, PUBG, Fortnite, Dota2, etc), have no little to no p2w mechanics, yet they can afford multimillion dollar prize pools for tournaments. I look at this game and the original mechanics are nice and competitive, and it’s a damn shame they were so shortsighted with what they did. also this is offtopic and look forward to the ride into Rants
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Post by Deadeye on Jun 9, 2020 7:58:26 GMT -5
Serious question anyone can answer: What's the point in being F2P if you are still going to run the bots that are destroying the game? I've never understood this. Why do we get upset with those paying for an advantage and but think it is great when someone else grinds for it? I thought F2P was about protesting pixonic. What are you protesting by refusing to spend? Is it not about protest and about just being F2P out of principal and even if you loved the game and company you would still be F2P? That is the only thing that makes sense because I can't understand why anyone would be angry with pixonic for what they have done to the game and then go run all those game braking builds and be an active participant in destruction of the game but its OK you are doing it for free? I've never had a problem with spenders. You are either part of the problem with the bots and modules you run or you are not. Joopiter and Garbage game both gave good answers to your question of why someone might refuse to pay and still run whatever bots they want. Fundamentally, the person in Joopiter's position would likely disagree with your position that there are "game breaking" builds (though I think anyone would have to agree that some bots/builds are so significantly weaker than others as to be labeled "inferior"). That said, if you believe that there are "game breaking" builds and that this game has been broken (likely many times over now), why do you continue to play it? I ask this as you did, seriously and am interested in your answer. Pixonic has been working under this model for probably ~3 years or so (all the way back to the dash bots or maybe even Camelot bots) and even though there have been multiple waves of people (many of whom are serious payers) that have left the game, they continue. Many different kinds of protests have failed to sway them into changing that model so I think it's fairly obvious at this point that they are committed to making increasingly superior content that lessens the effectiveness of the previous stuff. Why then do you stay? That seems like an exercise in frustration, which is counter to the purpose of a game. Based on your commentary on the forums, you do appear frustrated with War Robots. Do you still find it fun?
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Post by kingjames4 on Jun 9, 2020 9:02:25 GMT -5
Serious question anyone can answer: What's the point in being F2P if you are still going to run the bots that are destroying the game? I've never understood this. Why do we get upset with those paying for an advantage and but think it is great when someone else grinds for it? I thought F2P was about protesting pixonic. What are you protesting by refusing to spend? Is it not about protest and about just being F2P out of principal and even if you loved the game and company you would still be F2P? That is the only thing that makes sense because I can't understand why anyone would be angry with pixonic for what they have done to the game and then go run all those game braking builds and be an active participant in destruction of the game but its OK you are doing it for free? I've never had a problem with spenders. You are either part of the problem with the bots and modules you run or you are not. To expand on what's already been said, and to give my own perspective, I'll say this: I do really like this game and enjoy playing it for the most part. I'm a F2P player not out of protest and I have no reservation about running any OP build. I play to have fun and to get a sense of accomplishment. And the reason I decline to pay money is two fold; I'm a cheap 「illegitimate child」 who doesn't want to pay for something that is free or could be earned through playing, and paying feels like a shortcut that diminishes my sense of accomplishment and need to keep playing.
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Post by foxypotato on Jun 9, 2020 9:42:06 GMT -5
Serious question anyone can answer: What's the point in being F2P if you are still going to run the bots that are destroying the game? I've never understood this. Why do we get upset with those paying for an advantage and but think it is great when someone else grinds for it? I thought F2P was about protesting pixonic. What are you protesting by refusing to spend? Is it not about protest and about just being F2P out of principal and even if you loved the game and company you would still be F2P? That is the only thing that makes sense because I can't understand why anyone would be angry with pixonic for what they have done to the game and then go run all those game braking builds and be an active participant in destruction of the game but its OK you are doing it for free? I've never had a problem with spenders. You are either part of the problem with the bots and modules you run or you are not. Joopiter and Garbage game both gave good answers to your question of why someone might refuse to pay and still run whatever bots they want. Fundamentally, the person in Joopiter's position would likely disagree with your position that there are "game breaking" builds (though I think anyone would have to agree that some bots/builds are so significantly weaker than others as to be labeled "inferior"). That said, if you believe that there are "game breaking" builds and that this game has been broken (likely many times over now), why do you continue to play it? I ask this as you did, seriously and am interested in your answer. Pixonic has been working under this model for probably ~3 years or so (all the way back to the dash bots or maybe even Camelot bots) and even though there have been multiple waves of people (many of whom are serious payers) that have left the game, they continue. Many different kinds of protests have failed to sway them into changing that model so I think it's fairly obvious at this point that they are committed to making increasingly superior content that lessens the effectiveness of the previous stuff. Why then do you stay? That seems like an exercise in frustration, which is counter to the purpose of a game. Based on your commentary on the forums, you do appear frustrated with War Robots. Do you still find it fun? I play in defiance of those builds and players that run them. I play in support of Walking War Robots and in defiance of War Robots. I'm not going to let them run me off the game with their broken builds and I will not be part of the problem and run them myself. I will remain defiant to pix and the players alike who have decimated this game. We could still have the old old days of Walking War Robots if we had all just collectively ignored all the bull?dookie? bots pix has put out and focused on older and balanced newer bots. Instead we adopted the most broken bots and build en masse and now run around making a mockery of the game in Leeches, Phantoms, Ao Jun, Plasma Ming, Ravana and soon the Scorpion. I play just to gun down every dash bot, Pantheon, Ao Jun, Ming, Ravana, Leech and Phantom I see with legacy bots. I will get Walking War Robots's revenge.
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Post by Loganspawn on Jun 9, 2020 10:10:45 GMT -5
Joopiter and Garbage game both gave good answers to your question of why someone might refuse to pay and still run whatever bots they want. Fundamentally, the person in Joopiter's position would likely disagree with your position that there are "game breaking" builds (though I think anyone would have to agree that some bots/builds are so significantly weaker than others as to be labeled "inferior"). That said, if you believe that there are "game breaking" builds and that this game has been broken (likely many times over now), why do you continue to play it? I ask this as you did, seriously and am interested in your answer. Pixonic has been working under this model for probably ~3 years or so (all the way back to the dash bots or maybe even Camelot bots) and even though there have been multiple waves of people (many of whom are serious payers) that have left the game, they continue. Many different kinds of protests have failed to sway them into changing that model so I think it's fairly obvious at this point that they are committed to making increasingly superior content that lessens the effectiveness of the previous stuff. Why then do you stay? That seems like an exercise in frustration, which is counter to the purpose of a game. Based on your commentary on the forums, you do appear frustrated with War Robots. Do you still find it fun? I play in defiance of those builds and player that run them. I play in support of Walking War Robots and in defiance of War Robots. I'm not going to let them run me off the game with their broken builds and I will not be part of the problem and run them myself. I will remain defiant to pix and the players alike who have decimated this game. We could still have the old old days of Walking War Robots if we had all just collectively ignored all the bullã??dookieã? bots pix has put out and focused on older and balanced newer bot. Instead we adopted the most broken bout and build en masse and now run around making a mockery of the game in Leeches, Phantoms, Ao Jun, Plasma Ming, Ravana and soon the Scorpion. I play just to gun down every dash bot, Pantheon, Ao Jun, Ming, Ravana, Leech and Phantom I see with legacy bots. I will get Walking War Robots's revenge. Wow full of spite and anger, I just cant see myself enjoying that. Also so self righteous we decimated this game be using what they give? I will never understand those that think like this, I will show you I will F me. I will torture myself to torture you! You must be fun to be around. Anyhow I do thank you for clearly stating your stance and I can except that I hope one day you learn to except others. Peace out. ETA just caught your line in your profile.... "Only here to dookie post" ?whiskey tango foxtrot? man why is your life so empty!
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Jun 9, 2020 10:32:24 GMT -5
Joopiter and Garbage game both gave good answers to your question of why someone might refuse to pay and still run whatever bots they want. Fundamentally, the person in Joopiter's position would likely disagree with your position that there are "game breaking" builds (though I think anyone would have to agree that some bots/builds are so significantly weaker than others as to be labeled "inferior"). That said, if you believe that there are "game breaking" builds and that this game has been broken (likely many times over now), why do you continue to play it? I ask this as you did, seriously and am interested in your answer. Pixonic has been working under this model for probably ~3 years or so (all the way back to the dash bots or maybe even Camelot bots) and even though there have been multiple waves of people (many of whom are serious payers) that have left the game, they continue. Many different kinds of protests have failed to sway them into changing that model so I think it's fairly obvious at this point that they are committed to making increasingly superior content that lessens the effectiveness of the previous stuff. Why then do you stay? That seems like an exercise in frustration, which is counter to the purpose of a game. Based on your commentary on the forums, you do appear frustrated with War Robots. Do you still find it fun? I play in defiance of those builds and player that run them. I play in support of Walking War Robots and in defiance of War Robots. I'm not going to let them run me off the game with their broken builds and I will not be part of the problem and run them myself. I will remain defiant to pix and the players alike who have decimated this game. We could still have the old old days of Walking War Robots if we had all just collectively ignored all the bull?dookie? bots pix has put out and focused on older and balanced newer bot. Instead we adopted the most broken bout and build en masse and now run around making a mockery of the game in Leeches, Phantoms, Ao Jun, Plasma Ming, Ravana and soon the Scorpion. I play just to gun down every dash bot, Pantheon, Ao Jun, Ming, Ravana, Leech and Phantom I see with legacy bots. I will get Walking War Robots's revenge. Haha, and I just play to rain Carnage upon everyone else I agree that there is a certain amount of hypocrisy when players claim to hate a certain content but then gleefully grind towards acquiring said content for whatever reason. Way back in 2017 when the Dash bots started getting released and the current P2W model started rolling I decided I won't be a part of the Dash bot problem and use them myself despite winning several from events. It's been 3 years now and nothing's changed lol. The P2W train has only gotten stronger and faster, yet I'm still here, still refusing to not be a part of the problem.
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Post by foxypotato on Jun 9, 2020 10:58:05 GMT -5
I play in defiance of those builds and player that run them. I play in support of Walking War Robots and in defiance of War Robots. I'm not going to let them run me off the game with their broken builds and I will not be part of the problem and run them myself. I will remain defiant to pix and the players alike who have decimated this game. We could still have the old old days of Walking War Robots if we had all just collectively ignored all the bullã??dookieã? bots pix has put out and focused on older and balanced newer bot. Instead we adopted the most broken bout and build en masse and now run around making a mockery of the game in Leeches, Phantoms, Ao Jun, Plasma Ming, Ravana and soon the Scorpion. I play just to gun down every dash bot, Pantheon, Ao Jun, Ming, Ravana, Leech and Phantom I see with legacy bots. I will get Walking War Robots's revenge. Wow full of spite and anger, I just cant see myself enjoying that. Also so self righteous we decimated this game be using what they give? I will never understand those that think like this, I will show you I will F me. I will torture myself to torture you! You must be fun to be around. Anyhow I do thank you for clearly stating your stance and I can except that I hope one day you learn to except others. Peace out. ETA just caught your line in your profile.... "Only here to dookie post" ?whiskey tango foxtrot? man why is your life so empty! It's actually a nice balance of hate and love. Hate most new bots and love the old ones and some new ones.
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