Corrosion
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Posts: 22
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Pilot name: CORROS!ON
Clan: INTERCEPTION
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Ao Jun
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Post by Corrosion on Jun 5, 2020 14:56:30 GMT -5
So sometimes , when I play in expert league, I see ppl from the champions league running around and dominating the entire match, ex: MK2 Lv12 Ao Jun with maxed Glaciers, with maxed PlasmaMings. Of course, that isn't always the case, but when it does, it usually happens in FFA.
Also, have you noticed that after purchasing a robot, (actually PAYING ) your first match will usually be against weaker, F2P ppl running griffins and natashas and old, feeble weapons? Like that time I got an Ares from a special offer, the first match was up against a buncha leos and thunder nats. Which usually result in you easily winning with your newly-purchased robot.
Sometimes, I think that whales who max stuff get put into lower ranked players who aren't running maxed meta stuff, so that they can (obviously) be defeated by the said whale. Is this a tactic from Pixonic to make pple pay or am I just overthinking?
Feel free to comment on my thread, and happy hunting!!!
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Deus Ex Machina
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Posts: 30
Karma: 49
Pilot name: Deus Ex Machina
Platform: Android
Clan: Myrmidon Legion id :21328
League: Champion
Server Region: Europe
Favorite robot: Inquisitor
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jun 5, 2020 18:41:49 GMT -5
I don't think that there is any kind of pixonics dark plan.. From the beginning of War Robots the matchmaking had issues..but generally works like this.. Two leagues up two leagues down..
When somebody is master 1 he will play with champions and master 1&2 for example
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Post by Joopiter on Jun 5, 2020 19:00:23 GMT -5
It's actually limited to 1 league of difference. The exception is when a player is in challenge for the next league. So if someone is in Expert but has 4,090 league pts but is in challenge to be promoted to Master league then they'll face the same players as a Master league player. There may be some flukes out there, but in general this is how it's set up.
You're right about the matchmaking. Very often, it's not set up fairly, especially for players on the lower end of the scale. League pts are big part of the equation, but win rate is also. And if your win rate climbs too high then the matchmaking "seems" to put you in tougher matches. What i've told myself over the years of playing this game is to not let the losses or beatdowns get to me. If you do, then this game get's pretty frustrating.
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Corrosion
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Posts: 22
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Pilot name: CORROS!ON
Clan: INTERCEPTION
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Ao Jun
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Post by Corrosion on Jun 5, 2020 23:57:52 GMT -5
It's actually limited to 1 league of difference. The exception is when a player is in challenge for the next league. So if someone is in Expert but has 4,090 league pts but is in challenge to be promoted to Master league then they'll face the same players as a Master league player. There may be some flukes out there, but in general this is how it's set up. You're right about the matchmaking. Very often, it's not set up fairly, especially for players on the lower end of the scale. League pts are big part of the equation, but win rate is also. And if your win rate climbs too high then the matchmaking "seems" to put you in tougher matches. What i've told myself over the years of playing this game is to not let the losses or beatdowns get to me. If you do, then this game get's pretty frustrating. Ah yes, one thing i forgot to mention wus that my win rate was 65% average... Thats not quite fair though, don't you think? To put you up against better maxed hangars to make u lose on purpose.... Also, I'm beginning to start getting ticked off by the rising amount of Ao Juns and leeches i see... |
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Post by Munki on Jun 8, 2020 8:57:56 GMT -5
It's actually limited to 1 league of difference. The exception is when a player is in challenge for the next league. So if someone is in Expert but has 4,090 league pts but is in challenge to be promoted to Master league then they'll face the same players as a Master league player. There may be some flukes out there, but in general this is how it's set up. You're right about the matchmaking. Very often, it's not set up fairly, especially for players on the lower end of the scale. League pts are big part of the equation, but win rate is also. And if your win rate climbs too high then the matchmaking "seems" to put you in tougher matches. What i've told myself over the years of playing this game is to not let the losses or beatdowns get to me. If you do, then this game get's pretty frustrating. Ah yes, one thing i forgot to mention wus that my win rate was 65% average... Thats not quite fair though, don't you think? To put you up against better maxed hangars to make u lose on purpose.... Also, I'm beginning to start getting ticked off by the rising amount of Ao Juns and leeches i see... We cannot see the secret sauce used to perform the matchmaking but it appears that Pix puts a lot of priority on getting wait times for matches down as low as possible. That will mean a wider delta in bot and weapon strength among the players in the match. League cups is the primary method for matchups but win rate over recent matches does seem to come into play on where the MM will place you. With a high win rate, you will most likely have blues that have very low level hangers or lower win rates (who when are going down in league cups are often tankers or are doing other non-competitive strategies). Ultimately, no matter how well you do, you get stomped by the red team. Even if you have a great hanger, you could get 20 kills and 4 million damage and still lose. Like over and over again. Many players that get to the top (think Legend League) will have abysmal win rates like 12% if they are not regularly playing in full squads with clanmates. |
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Corrosion
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Pilot name: CORROS!ON
Clan: INTERCEPTION
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Ao Jun
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Post by Corrosion on Jun 8, 2020 12:27:55 GMT -5
So I tanked a bit to expert 1, because I just keep getting overpowered by those Ao Juns, I tried using Quantum Radar, but as u know-- its just gonna fly away or strafe to kill you anyaway. My best luck was with my ravana so im probably gonna keep using it.
Anyway, im still seeing a lot of Ao Juns and even the occasional whale running maxed scourge leech.
I do wish Pix would stop doing those supergood offers; they just shift the meta so quickly.
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Corrosion
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Posts: 22
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Pilot name: CORROS!ON
Clan: INTERCEPTION
League: Master
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Ao Jun
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Post by Corrosion on Jun 8, 2020 12:28:49 GMT -5
I don't think that there is any kind of pixonics dark plan.. From the beginning of War Robots the matchmaking had issues..but generally works like this.. Two leagues up two leagues down.. When somebody is master 1 he will play with champions and master 1&2 for example Welcome to the forum!!! (like yours truly) |
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Deus Ex Machina
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Posts: 30
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Pilot name: Deus Ex Machina
Platform: Android
Clan: Myrmidon Legion id :21328
League: Champion
Server Region: Europe
Favorite robot: Inquisitor
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Post by Deus Ex Machina on Jun 9, 2020 9:26:15 GMT -5
I don't think that there is any kind of pixonics dark plan.. From the beginning of War Robots the matchmaking had issues..but generally works like this.. Two leagues up two leagues down.. When somebody is master 1 he will play with champions and master 1&2 for example Welcome to the forum!!! (like yours truly) Thank you for the warm welcome mate |
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Post by mechtout on Jun 9, 2020 11:04:37 GMT -5
Its a rare treat to have all Champions in a match, seems like most multi layer and below are either leaving or not looking at beacons
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Corrosion
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Posts: 22
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Pilot name: CORROS!ON
Clan: INTERCEPTION
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Favorite robot: Ao Jun
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Post by Corrosion on Jun 9, 2020 23:22:54 GMT -5
Deus ex machina:
Its ok! im new to the forum too, and theres a first time for everyone!!
Dangit 400 more components to my Ao Jun.... AGhhhhhhhh!!!
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jul 2, 2020 15:01:57 GMT -5
Yes, the matchmaker is set up to make them money. Thrash you good, make you feel bad about your hangar, you spend money, the abuse goes on.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Jul 6, 2020 11:00:55 GMT -5
Seems that if you buy a new robot they will give you easier matches. This could be for 2 reasons, to make you feel good and possibly buy their deals for the weapons that fit the bot. That or so you can use the still low level bot more, this would keep you from not wanting to spend again.
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Post by _FakeNews_ on Jul 27, 2020 10:04:53 GMT -5
I think its a MM mechanic,
win some, lose some.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Jul 30, 2020 13:52:28 GMT -5
I don't think that there is any kind of pixonics dark plan.. From the beginning of War Robots the matchmaking had issues..but generally works like this.. Two leagues up two leagues down.. When somebody is master 1 he will play with champions and master 1&2 for example Well. Not from the beginning per say. The new MM was introduced in Jan of 2017 with the leagues going live in March of that year. Before then, the old hangar based MM was in force (2014-2016), a world without tanking, LPQ, or any of our modern insane PTW nonsense. MagGep clobbers? Yes. They were there. Occasionally fun to fight, dead easy to avoid, easy to get past, and then never to have to deal with them again. Unless like me you rigged your hangar up with Thunder Schutze's and went hunting them. |
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Post by wargear on Aug 20, 2020 19:47:42 GMT -5
What I've noticed is the MM goes by winrate and winning place. Go too far above 50% or finish in the top 3 too much and you get bumped to higher lvl players. All I face is Champs, or Legend Champs with squads. Once in a blue moon I face other masters with an expert thrown in, but 99% champs and ravana swarm.
So basically if you making lots of silver and gold each match you gonna face champs real soon, even in expert. Yes that's how pix tries to drive purchases, by fast scaling free to play players trying to force them to spend.
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Post by targetonmyback on Aug 21, 2020 5:17:46 GMT -5
An old thread but current for me.
I’ve found the matchmaking of late a joke. Beginning of the month 50 -55% wins top 1 or 2 usually which ever side I’m on. As this continues the win rate drops, where in last week of month I’m at 26% and falling. Main drivers, 1) I play quite a lot so usually hit 4 a 5k clan cups in a month. 2) Finishing top 1 or 2 on average. So seems to defeat the object, being depressed for playing the game more.... I put it down a lot more in last days of the month as bores the Earther Kitt out of me. Summary, play less, win more.....
I know it is to encourage spending. But never will as do not wand to reward the level of integrity at Pix.
Couple of things I noticed as I play a lot:
- seem to be getting more bots from chests, got pilot then relevant Scorpion and Ivory Ravana. I think if you have good silver amount prob increases as they want you to use it on upgrades?
- Low power cells - drop out all premium mods - get loads in chests, use premium mods - they dry up. Anyone experienced this?
- Less players, getting more masters in big games. And seeing same folks 2 or 3 times in a row on Reds. Anything similar?
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Post by ironslash on Jan 4, 2021 10:22:24 GMT -5
I don't think that there is any kind of pixonics dark plan.. From the beginning of War Robots the matchmaking had issues..but generally works like this.. Two leagues up two leagues down.. When somebody is master 1 he will play with champions and master 1&2 for example Hi there guys i`m new here and on War Robots. I have a screenshots that my first match today was Me - Master 3 vs 4 x Champion MK2 ALL MAX LVL12 Can you explain that to me how the hell is this posible ? And this has repeated 2 battles later ..... Now i decide to lower my League ..... There is no point of this INSANE Leagues System ...... P.S. - I already sent a e-mail to support but i know what they gonna answer .......      |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 13, 2021 11:31:32 GMT -5
I don't think that there is any kind of pixonics dark plan.. From the beginning of War Robots the matchmaking had issues..but generally works like this.. Two leagues up two leagues down.. When somebody is master 1 he will play with champions and master 1&2 for example False. There certainly IS a "dark" plan, and it is to extract every last cent from a player they can. The mismatchmaker could have been corrected LONG ago, but they willfully changed it to what it is now, and have tweaked it to suit their purposes ever since the split. It used to be a gear/level based system, and players would abuse that. Instead of correcting it, they ditched the system, purportedly to stop the dominance of the mag geps, claiming the system was irredeemable. This has been proven demonstrably false ever since. |
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Post by Thunderkiss on Feb 13, 2021 11:32:57 GMT -5
I don't think that there is any kind of pixonics dark plan.. From the beginning of War Robots the matchmaking had issues..but generally works like this.. Two leagues up two leagues down.. When somebody is master 1 he will play with champions and master 1&2 for example Hi there guys i`m new here and on War Robots. I have a screenshots that my first match today was Me - Master 3 vs 4 x Champion MK2 ALL MAX LVL12 Can you explain that to me how the hell is this posible ? And this has repeated 2 battles later ..... Now i decide to lower my League ..... There is no point of this INSANE Leagues System ...... P.S. - I already sent a e-mail to support but i know what they gonna answer .......Dammit, you suckered me. Stop necroing million year old posts. |
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hyrty20
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Platform: Android
Clan: Outlaw Immortals
League: Silver
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Cyberknight Revanent
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Post by hyrty20 on Dec 30, 2021 22:49:36 GMT -5
I Don't Really think so.. but I have the issue you have as well. I am in silver ll, with around 1345 trophies, but I would see lots of zmej Murtomez's in the battles, no matter how hard I try to keep things within my own league. I also see distriers, cossacks, all manner of grief with weaker players *bolt* fighting stronger players(Plasma Ming, Zmej, Ox, Luchador Orochi Fafiner, and such).
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 2, 2022 20:18:27 GMT -5
I Don't Really think so.. but I have the issue you have as well. I am in silver ll, with around 1345 trophies, but I would see lots of zmej Murtomez's in the battles, no matter how hard I try to keep things within my own league. I also see distriers, cossacks, all manner of grief with weaker players *bolt* fighting stronger players(Plasma Ming, Zmej, Ox, Luchador Orochi Fafiner, and such). Hi, Welcome to the forum. We ask that people do not necropost, which means replying to posts that originated quite a while ago. If there is a relevant ongoing conversation, that is different, but the op here originated in June of 2020, so please check dates before responding in order to keep it current and relevant. |
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