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Post by IStandAlone on Mar 23, 2017 0:14:43 GMT -5
I don't know, but the difference might be if there is a difference in the number of players on iOS vs Android. Big pool/small pool differences maybe? I'm a developer, and I can tell you that the world contains a lot more android devices than it does IOS ones. Not to mention on average android devises are usually cheaper hence the reason more of them exist. You can also play with a desktop using an android emulator.
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Post by zr on Mar 23, 2017 0:40:55 GMT -5
This is what I play in silver 1. I find the hangar a bit weak, still upgrading (slow)
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Post by IStandAlone on Mar 23, 2017 0:45:34 GMT -5
I see a lot of this type of hanger, but usually with a 5th bay. Take note that even though I'm in Silver 1, Facing guys like this from gold 2 & 3 is very common.
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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 23, 2017 1:34:53 GMT -5
I totally agree with the wise panda too and I just did what our OP is trying to do. I moved from Silver 1 to Gold 3 recently and most of the players I know who play aggressively at that level do regularly use all their bots. It isn't a diamond+ tier thing. It's a playing as hard as possible to win thing. 5000 au worth of premium toys is nice but hardly remarkable in Silver 1 or Gold 3. It will help but it won't rule the roost. Orkans, britbots and Zeus are fairly common by Silver 1 and certainly by Gold 3. They're just a bit lower in level than those in upper gold, diamond and such. The extra slot is an asset that won't lose value, no matter how the meta changes. Other than tankers I don't think I've ever seen a triple orkan fujin or even a double zeus carnage in Gold III. Maybe someone has them but they are pretty rare, at least in ios. You would rek fools badly with stuff like that and win lots of damage gold. Also, the sooner you buy premium "toys" the sooner you can start upgrading them rather than continuing to upgrade stuff you'll eventually stop using. You can't upgrade a slot. You're on iOS. We're talking Android gold 3. Apples and oranges. Android has a drastically better geared average hangar in the low to mid tiers. For some reason, our league sorting was far more brutal. Add/subtract maybe 4 tiers to set your expectations right. Our upper silver and low gold looks like iOS diamond, etc. Diamond on up is pretty much TT hangars on Android. I play Android Gold 3. All the meta builds show up including the very expensive ones. Au/wsp bots and weapons are common but so are the Ag heavies, averaging around lvl9 more or less. Zeus carnies are popular mid-range bots, as are Trident carnies. Orkan fujin are pretty rare, not because orkans are rare (they are common on griffs and rhinos) nor because fujin are rare. Taran, Tulu and hydra fujin are common enough. I'm guessing the orkan fujin is a bit too easily hunted by plasma bots (stay at 301-350m metres and melt the helpless fujin) and the build isn't popular. Edit: (laughing) I took so long drafting my message that everyone beat me to the punch on every point.
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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 23, 2017 1:46:07 GMT -5
Having thought about it over dinner I think I'm going to with this. - upgrade my 4th Taran to level 9
- upgrade my second Thunder to level 9
- replace 2 Punishers with Pintas this will give me a head start on a DB
- get a Carnage and move my thunders to it
- bench the plasma leo
- get another thunder for the pintas leo
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- when I've got the 4 bots up to a good level or if the MM is fixed sooner
- get a 5th slot
- bring the plasma leo back and get a thunder on it leveled up
[/ul][/li][li] save save save[/li][li] - bench the pinta leo for a Lancelot
- put the benched leo's thunder, and a Griffin's Tarans on the Lancelot
- convert the donor Griffin to a DB by mounting the pintas an buying Orkans
[/li][/ol] opinions? [/quote]Generally a solid plan but you should seriously consider working a mid-range support build in there once you have 5 slots. It makes the big open maps so much easier. Also, by the time you have the cash for the lancelot the meta might have changed so keep an open mind.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 2:26:05 GMT -5
shaolinrogue there is a difference in where you end up in a League between the two platforms. I run a 9/9 hangar, 1 Gal, 2 Griffins and a Rhino then one of three bots for my fifth, depending on my mood. This is a good Gold 2 in Android. On the iOS side it might be a diamond 3 or 2. The points are the same as far as how many you need to advance to next level for both platforms and the points awarded for battles are the same. From what I see though when you get to Master, bots level out. I mean when you have lvl 11 bots and lvl 12 weapons, or level 12 straight across your hangar your either in Masters or Champions. Since I play both platforms and the new League system started I payed attention to things like that. There are a lot more players on Android. On iOS I see some of what TAS described in his thread on Warwolves and others. Guess it has been moved to rants by now. IStandAlone slots b4 bots
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Post by snk on Mar 23, 2017 3:22:18 GMT -5
Get Orkan first, so you can upgrade something good for now and even in top league later, no upgrade time waste when you saving gold for 5th slot.
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Post by Russel on Mar 23, 2017 3:59:04 GMT -5
UPDATE: Sorry, disregard my advice, I am on IOS, so it's not relevant =)
As a side note - please DO listen to HeavyPanda, his advice "to have fun" is THE ADVICE I thinks everybody should follow in every game (at least)!
First of all, English is my third language, so please feel free to ask me to clarify my statements =)
So, on topic. 1) I am on low Diamond (moved there from highest silver in two weeks) 2) I do NOT have orkans 3) I am playing for two months 4) I do NOT have gold bots 5) My hangar is 6\7 9\7 level bots 6) I've got fifth slot, and it's overrated (helps with diversity only - you can have dedicated beacon capper\sniper if you like) 7) I run two Leos, bot Thunder\Magnum+2pinata, and I can easily get 2-3 kills in knife fight with single Leo 8) Oh, and I spent no real money here. 9) And I have LESS damage\battles\caps than you, so I play less
Now to my personal advice (all of the said is IMHO):
- Get those fast bot! Boa\Shutze\Carnage\Rhino - whatever suits you. Just remember, Rhino is NOT a defense bot, so do not just stand and collect those damage from red. Charge, shoot, shield, run away, reload, rinse and repeat. - You already know your weakness - this moment in game when you see Red bot and saying to yourself "oh, sh*t" - you NEED to know how to defeat those guys. - If you are capping 0 beacons and at the same time NOT in top-2 damage - you are doing something wrong (either kill, or get beacons, or do both)
Again, this is just my opinion based on my experience, and I'm hardly two months in this game.
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Post by BLYTHE on Mar 23, 2017 4:16:55 GMT -5
If you're having difficulty getting into gold then maybe you don't quite belong there yet. Even if you manage to get in you'll likely fall back to silver if it's not the appropriate tier for you. So I'd advise you to stay where you are, take it slow and do get that 5th slot--doing so would increase your score significantly.
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Post by cypho on Mar 23, 2017 4:52:59 GMT -5
Probably not the advice you want to hear but I would say slow down, enjoy the journey and don't be in too much of a rush to climb the leagues.
The 5th slot is obtainable without paying pix anything - I currently fluctuate between Diamond II and III with a 10/9.75 hangar, with 5 slots and plenty of gold bots to choose from and I've never paid a penny (and don't intend to with the way Pix constantly screw around with the mechanics of the game).
The truth is your bot strength is all relative because as you improve so does the opposition so until you reach 12/12, there will always be a bigger fish and you'll always be pushing for another upgrade.
Oh - and get some mid-range!
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Post by snk on Mar 23, 2017 8:59:50 GMT -5
Do you see many shield bot in your league? If yes, then build a Piñata Orkan Griffin, you may not one shot heavy bot at low level Piñata Orkan, hide and shoot again after reload. Or if you want mid range, go for RBD Griffin (silver)/trident Carnage (WSP).
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 23, 2017 9:11:13 GMT -5
shaolinrogue there is a difference in where you end up in a League between the two platforms. I run a 9/9 hangar, 1 Gal, 2 Griffins and a Rhino then one of three bots for my fifth, depending on my mood. This is a good Gold 2 in Android. On the iOS side it might be a diamond 3 or 2. The points are the same as far as how many you need to advance to next level for both platforms and the points awarded for battles are the same. From what I see though when you get to Master, bots level out. I mean when you have lvl 11 bots and lvl 12 weapons, or level 12 straight across your hangar your either in Masters or Champions. Since I play both platforms and the new League system started I payed attention to things like that. There are a lot more players on Android. On iOS I see some of what TAS described in his thread on Warwolves and others. Guess it has been moved to rants by now. IStandAlone slots b4 bots Thank you for the breakdown, I suppose that since Android has the larger population and it is a comparative ranking system it makes sense it would be tougher to climb the ladder.
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Post by crave1ne on Mar 23, 2017 10:25:39 GMT -5
This is what I play in silver 1. I find the hangar a bit weak, still upgrading (slow) honestly, if you get that lvl 6 griffin up with the rest and all your weapons to lvl 9, you'll be in a REALLY good position for gold 3. I run a full on 8/8 hangar, just entered gold. i feel if my weapons were at least lvl 9 (which im currently starting upgrades on) i could counter level 9 and 10 bots. which i seem to run into every match. id say get your weapons to 9 at least, and that griffin upgraded, which im sure your probably already working on. i'm going for a 9/9 hangar before upgrading weapons anything further. good luck!
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Post by crave1ne on Mar 23, 2017 11:05:05 GMT -5
shaolinrogue there is a difference in where you end up in a League between the two platforms. I run a 9/9 hangar, 1 Gal, 2 Griffins and a Rhino then one of three bots for my fifth, depending on my mood. This is a good Gold 2 in Android. On the iOS side it might be a diamond 3 or 2. The points are the same as far as how many you need to advance to next level for both platforms and the points awarded for battles are the same. From what I see though when you get to Master, bots level out. I mean when you have lvl 11 bots and lvl 12 weapons, or level 12 straight across your hangar your either in Masters or Champions. Since I play both platforms and the new League system started I payed attention to things like that. There are a lot more players on Android. On iOS I see some of what TAS described in his thread on Warwolves and others. Guess it has been moved to rants by now. IStandAlone slots b4 bots I'd love to know at what level and what weapon configuration your running that Rhino? I just entered gold 3, and starting to feel like there isn't a place for the Rhino. Mine is at lvl 8, lvl 8 orks, and lvl 7 mags. just recently switched him over to a db, which seemed to work fine on one game. Tried all plasma but lacked punch for physical shields.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 12:50:32 GMT -5
crave1ne my Rhino in Android is lvl 9 with lvl 9 Orkans and Piñatas. Since the nerf took place on the Rhino how you play it has changed also. It is no longer the kill all, be all it once was. I play it now just like a Griffin loaded out the same way. No more rushing in and hitting the big red button. Especially with the shear number of Tridents in the game now. You have to adapt. There are times that you actually have to hide sometimes and surprise the opposition. It's role has changed. It used to be my last drop, now it could be 3rd or 4th depending on how the game is playing out. One thing, don't get over confident just because you have Orkan's. Fire a full volley and raise shield, don't stand there with one rocket coming out every second or so thinking you are going to take them out while they blast away at you with plasma. You will lose that battle. Which means have an escape plan before you rush in.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 23, 2017 13:08:48 GMT -5
crave1ne my Rhino in Android is lvl 9 with lvl 9 Orkans and Piñatas. Since the nerf took place on the Rhino how you play it has changed also. It is no longer the kill all, be all it once was. I play it now just like a Griffin loaded out the same way. No more rushing in and hitting the big red button. Especially with the shear number of Tridents in the game now. You have to adapt. There are times that you actually have to hide sometimes and surprise the opposition. It's role has changed. It used to be my last drop, now it could be 3rd or 4th depending on how the game is playing out. One thing, don't get over confident just because you have Orkan's. Fire a full volley and raise shield, don't stand there with one rocket coming out every second or so thinking you are going to take them out while they blast away at you with plasma. You will lose that battle. Which means have an escape plan before you rush in. ^^ Exactly... I try to use the shield as an on-off button when firing the Orks in bursts, keeping the mags blasting away, dropping the shield and repositioning as I fire, often backing up around a corner to protect the area I cleared. If you're up against an ancile or jumping robot take it down in bursts that match the fire rate of your mags, you can waste a lot of rockets otherwise, and you will have a fairly full clip to dump when the time is right. The Rhino in that Vid is 9/9/9
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Post by crave1ne on Mar 23, 2017 13:11:40 GMT -5
crave1ne my Rhino in Android is lvl 9 with lvl 9 Orkans and Piñatas. Since the nerf took place on the Rhino how you play it has changed also. It is no longer the kill all, be all it once was. I play it now just like a Griffin loaded out the same way. No more rushing in and hitting the big red button. Especially with the shear number of Tridents in the game now. You have to adapt. There are times that you actually have to hide sometimes and surprise the opposition. It's role has changed. It used to be my last drop, now it could be 3rd or 4th depending on how the game is playing out. One thing, don't get over confident just because you have Orkan's. Fire a full volley and raise shield, don't stand there with one rocket coming out every second or so thinking you are going to take them out while they blast away at you with plasma. You will lose that battle. Which means have an escape plan before you rush in. I think part of my problem is having an all 8 Rhino. In another rhino thread I think it dawned on me that i should level it up. Just don't want to waste silver and time on leveling something I will replace later on. I love following another rhino from spawn and just brawling together. I usually drop it either first to cap a beacon and take down a bot or two, or drop it 3rd or 4th. Just switched it from hellfire to a DB, going to see how that plays out
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Post by [NovR] VR-01 on Mar 24, 2017 3:45:16 GMT -5
Another way is to watch other (better) pilots play, take notes and try to pilot better. There's a lot of videos on YouTube. Stew Pendous recently created a new account on Android (Glitter Pony) and I think he's already on Silver 2, but with level 5-6 ish weapons and bots, I think he's one of the better players there. Adrian and Phoenix are TT or near TT so it doesn't help so much. In any case, observe how they play and win -- it surely helped me immensely. Here's my hangar. I'm on Android as well. I've broken into Gold 2 now actually. I've replaced my Leo with a recently-acquired Plasma Gareth.
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Post by crave1ne on Mar 24, 2017 7:41:11 GMT -5
Another way is to watch other (better) pilots play, take notes and try to pilot better. There's a lot of videos on YouTube. Stew Pendous recently created a new account on Android (Glitter Pony) and I think he's already on Silver 2, but with level 5-6 ish weapons and bots, I think he's one of the better players there. Adrian and Phoenix are TT or near TT so it doesn't help so much. In any case, observe how they play and win -- it surely helped me immensely. Here's my hangar. I'm on Android as well. I've broken into Gold 2 now actually. I've replaced my Leo with a recently-acquired Plasma Gareth. I have a horrible time in gold with an 8/8 hangar. I feel mostly that my weapons barely scratch paint on some of the higher leveled bots. Kudos to you for using lvl 7 weapons and making it happen!!!
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Post by [NovR] VR-01 on Mar 24, 2017 8:24:06 GMT -5
Thanks man.
As I said, the guys on YouTube are veeeery good. You can say my hangar and stats are only a (poor) reflection of me trying to emulate what they're doing.
Of course, the 5th slot helped a loooot.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 24, 2017 8:33:57 GMT -5
I don't know, but the difference might be if there is a difference in the number of players on iOS vs Android. Big pool/small pool differences maybe? Pretty sure that is the case. I know iOS is a lot smaller.
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Post by //OBIONE\\ on Mar 24, 2017 11:45:05 GMT -5
Also, did I hear somewhere that War Robots was around on Android for a while before it went to iOS? Maybe a longer time in existence has allowed more people to reach the higher levels of skill/upgrades, making the upper levels more competitive.
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Post by SoCalGrndR on Mar 24, 2017 11:55:22 GMT -5
I've been playing for 4 or 5 weeks now, and I can't break into gold league, because every time I get close (1698 was my highest) The new MM and trophies payout system beats me back down. This is my current hanger: I know someone will say get your 5th bay, but I'm not giving Pixonic another penny till they fix the MM. My plan is as follows: 1) I'm currently upgrading my 4th Taran to level 9 2) I'm going to upgrade my second Thunder to level 9 3) I'm going to upgrade my second Griffin to level 9 4) by the time 1-3 is done I should have enough WP to buy a Carnage so I can move my thunders to it. What I'm struggling with is where do i go from there? I feel my leos just aren't fast or mobile enough, though I love their ability to soak up damage and keep on trucking. However, I feel like its time to retire them. By the time I have the Carnage I should have enough gold to buy a Gareth, or I could use it and silver to quickly level up the Carnage. What would you do? I would not look at getting Rhino if you are really planning to move up. I started in Gold I with 8.5/9 hanger. Main bots are: Galahad - everyone should have one Griffins x 2 - versatile with mobility & weapons load Lancelot - still best heavy knifer! I rotat my 5th slot - Rhino 9 / Carnage 8 / Leo 7. I have gone through Diamond III and on high side of Diamond II trying to break down the D I barrier. I see less & less Rhinos. The more you move up and fire power is closer, piloting becomes more of a deciding factor! The limitations in reacting if you are in the wrong spot. I leveled my Rhino to 9 (max speed), & I thing other bots can perform better. My .02 My hanger Attachment Deleted
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 11:57:55 GMT -5
Getting to Silver 1 is easy. Getting up to Gold 3 is another story entirely. Unless you seriously over-level your current hangar *and* open the 5th slot, you will be very much at the mercy of the matchmaker in terms of giving you teams that will let you make the progression. The positive side of it is that the artificial crap Pix has installed in the MM will probably prevent you from sliding back out of Silver 1 should you hit a really bad run (which happens way more often than should be possible under a truly random system).
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Post by crave1ne on Mar 24, 2017 15:16:07 GMT -5
Getting to Silver 1 is easy. Getting up to Gold 3 is another story entirely. Unless you seriously over-level your current hangar *and* open the 5th slot, you will be very much at the mercy of the matchmaker in terms of giving you teams that will let you make the progression. The positive side of it is that the artificial crap Pix has installed in the MM will probably prevent you from sliding back out of Silver 1 should you hit a really bad run (which happens way more often than should be possible under a truly random system). After almost a full week in Gold 3, I slid back down to Silver 1. And honestly, I think its due to my weapons not being near leveled where they need to be. I think this is the best post so far...
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Post by zman on Mar 24, 2017 16:40:03 GMT -5
5th slot and literally put any bot in it will be a hell of a start.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 24, 2017 17:10:21 GMT -5
5th slot and literally put any bot in it will be a hell of a start. Even a L6 RDB Griff. or Thunder Pinta/Pin Leo will automatically start to contribute as a 5th without upgrading if you don't have any other options.
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