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Post by carnage on Mar 22, 2017 9:47:13 GMT -5
With the buff of the Punishers, I guess it becomes a valid question ?
I'm a bit confused which one is the better choice. Plasma avoids ancile, that is an advantage.
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Mar 22, 2017 9:48:45 GMT -5
Plasma is still better by far.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 22, 2017 11:30:10 GMT -5
Shielded bots. Damn them. Double shielded bots, double damn them... Armour piercing rounds for both Molot and Punisher please!
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 22, 2017 11:31:12 GMT -5
The other day I was playing with some numbers trying to figure out this same question. What I came up with was; Punisher Griffin; dps @ level 1: 10,160 (x 2.813 = 28,583) dpc @ level 1: 145,640 (x 2.813 = 409,685) dpm @ level 1: 359,112 (x 2.813 = 1,010,183) Plasma Griffin; dps @ level 1: = 7,671 (x 2.813 = 21,578) dpc @ level 1: = 75,558 (x 2.813 = 212,546) dpm @ level 1: = 367,307 (x 2.813 = 1,033,234) The x 2.813 is how I figure out what it will be at level 12 since 1.09^12 = 2.813. These numbers are just speculative until they post the official numbers on the faq site but it is safe to say that the new punishers will do more damage per cycle but less cycles per minute making them a bit weaker in the end. They are pretty much shield breakers both ancile and physical. Pretty much nail on the head. Plasma is still the KF co-champion. Puns are now more of a mid-short ranged support option. Now, if you get close and can keep all of your weapons on the target, Puns will shred, no doubt. But... mostly you will still be too exposed even with the RoF buff. Shield breaking/draining is the main positive that I have found from my recent, albeit, limited, testing. |
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Post by Jame-thon on Mar 22, 2017 12:46:06 GMT -5
Agreed with what Tricky just said. I'd still go the plasma route because there will always be a need for it. Even if you retire a plasma griffin for another bot, those weapons can be easily transitioned to a more higher tier bot you might use. Puns is more of a support item I find in my trials with it at the moment. Annoying but you won't seeing it bear fruit as much as a plasma griffin. Just my .02 on that.
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Post by Scuzzbopper on Mar 22, 2017 12:58:53 GMT -5
I tried a punisher build with my single griffin 8 and it was less then what I had hoped. My weapons were only 7 (I started leveling as this upgrade had has been around the test server for a while) but as a brawler there wasn't enough time to get the damage out before I was overwhelmed by DBs and PDBs. I feel at around 400M I was bringing down shields nicely but both Ancille and Fujin shields regenerated faster than it seems I could get them down at 300+ range. I think a small damage buff for all ballistic weapons would really bring them back into viability.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2017 15:11:50 GMT -5
Guns cant even approach a Taran/Mag combo!
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Post by rustedscrap on Mar 22, 2017 20:14:20 GMT -5
Molots all the way. Stay our of range and let the hate flow.
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Post by Deadalready on Mar 22, 2017 23:47:03 GMT -5
Punishers have improved a lot, at low levels/leagues they are quite useful. Energy weapon ability to bypass energy shields, plus lower reload times still maintains their dominance over bullet weapons.
Molots are now viable though.
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