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Post by Desc440 on May 5, 2020 16:58:17 GMT -5
TBH, I am happy for the shorter track as it was impossible for me to complete the longer ones anyway, even with Premium (which I think I will stop purchasing). I haven't purchased a pass since the first one but I may give in and get this one. I'm just disapointed there are no Atomizers, which I thought were a shoo-in for this pass.
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Post by robocain on May 5, 2020 17:10:22 GMT -5
The value of the content sure is worth it. But most of us have shoved up gear our rear ends for years. On top we are bored because we have too much options and too few stuff on the must have list. It is rare that we get what we want for free or at a discount. A new player on the other hand gets a big bang for the buck.
I've seen this myself when I got back four months ago. I had been away for 18 months and had to catch up with everything. I went with VIP and took the OPs aswell. I felt it was very generous what I got in return. Raven was my newest bot when I left War Robots. In the last four months I got Ares, Hades, Nemesis, Fenrir, Tyr, Cerberus, Nightingale, Ravana, 4x Shredder, 2x Pulsar/Rime/Wasp/Sting, 1x Avalanche/Glacier/Calamity/Atomizer.
In the old days you didn't get such a bang for the buck. So for a new player the passes are actually a big help to gather viable gear. They benefit the most.
For us oldtimers the passes are like lottery. It is very unlikely that an OP exactly suits our needs.
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Post by T34 on May 5, 2020 21:13:40 GMT -5
I reckon many need to readjust the value they associate with platinum. By selling it cheaper it is devalued. When they devalue currency something is up. The thing is, if you've ever bought the big box of platinum (1400pt for £92.99) there will be a strong compulsion to buy these two ops passes... just because, if you bought it at the big box rate, it'd be crazy not to buy at the ops rate, right?
And my last off topic post, i love BoT because it's like Armored Core... with so much potential customisation. Imagine if you could tweak the stats of say a Molot, to give it a shorter reload time, more bullets in the clip or a faster unload! In BoT, you can... .......and if anyone is interested this is called price anchoring. The compulsion to buy at the seemingly cheaper rate when the buyer has established the value of the good at the higher rate. Ie 1400 Pt for £92.99. Classic pricing strategy. 101 kind. People should not be fooled by this. Pix uses it all the time. But it is actually worse in this gaming context. Whales are most likely to buy it. But this offer IMO targets dolphins and minnows. Since most will buy it the encouragement will be there for others to buy it to keep up with the competitiveness of the equipment. When most buy it (minnows and dolphins) the net gain in terms of performance outcome will be close to zero. This is just another in game lifecycle matter. The value of platinum is no longer 1400 Pt for £92.99. It is much less now. the bargain is not as good as it looks. To the whales, just one word of advice (not anti whale but in serious terms) do not think that buy buying this and stockpiling Pt will help you as much as you think. Pix has repeatedly demonstrated various tricks to counter such hoarding behaviour including the currency switch approach.
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Post by T34 on May 5, 2020 21:23:16 GMT -5
If that is the case these Op passes seem overpriced for the rewards? Same as the long Ops? They got me today for $15 bones cause I just ASSumed this was a long one, and the rewards seem minimal but I could be wrong. The value is actually increased from the longer OPS, depending on how far you can get.... but better overall for most players. Quick value: $50 in Pt, $10 in Au, $30 in event crates for the $14.99 price tag on OPS, not including the bots/skins/pilots etc The value has gone down. You get half as much gold, silver, equipment for the price. Pt is a slight offset but not equivalent IMO. The first OPS pass was the best value and then the value started fading becasue people bought it on mass (price elasticity). People not being able to finish it is a red herring. Pix can drop the oxp requirements so that all can finish it. No need to segment it for that reason.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2020 22:10:01 GMT -5
I try not to complain a lot anymore and just enjoy the game.
You could fill a whole forum with complaints about this game and the company.
Regarding this Operation Pass, as a person who has spent a lot of money on this game (and doesn't want to anymore), this is a good deal.
I've found an Operation Pass increases my fun of playing the game - I get showered with a lot more rewards (and even good ones) as I keep playing my usual rounds.
This pass is one of the best as I get a top meta bot that I want to play, a skin I like, a very useful +10% armor for it, and a matching Legendary Pilot, which seems will be temporarily exclusive to only one per player - which I also like.
My lovely Ao Ming will also get a huge boost from the platinum.
And the tokens give me an increased chance of getting the Special Delivery items I wanted, such as medic paint for Nightingale, an Ivory Ravana, and the Legendary Pilot Arnav Poe.
This might be all over soon and replaced with even newer things, but for now it's a good quick boost and it costs a lot less than the usual meta we have to buy.
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Post by Koko Bop on May 5, 2020 22:10:54 GMT -5
NONE of these hold real value...the âpriceâ is pretty much exactly the same as a âconnection chargeâ for a phone line (for the real old timers), or a mandatory âgratuityâ for services youâd gladly do without.
And, yes, that *does* mean there is no âper-item costâ based in reality for any of these imaginary items, and all the prices are entirely arbitrary. Perfect capitalism, actually.. itâs not even collectible,「dookie」, either: mass duplication of existing templates of data object set generates no cost, renders rarity just another form of price manipulation, renders price a matter of whim as much as anything
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Post by mechtout on May 5, 2020 22:43:38 GMT -5
Just wanted the Legendary Pilot, guess I'll wait
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Post by cheap on May 6, 2020 0:01:52 GMT -5
Shame on a ã??racist wordã? who tried to run game on a ã??racist wordã?... ODB does not approve Hey language filter ... it canâ??t be racist if the Osiris says it ainâ??t soooo ....... RIP Dirt Cherry Bombinâ?? ?dookie? boom ! EDIT: Forum no likey Apple keyboard or what?
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 8:31:20 GMT -5
The value is actually increased from the longer OPS, depending on how far you can get.... but better overall for most players. Quick value: $50 in Pt, $10 in Au, $30 in event crates for the $14.99 price tag on OPS, not including the bots/skins/pilots etc The value has gone down. You get half as much gold, silver, equipment for the price. Pt is a slight offset but not equivalent IMO. The first OPS pass was the best value and then the value started fading becasue people bought it on mass (price elasticity). People not being able to finish it is a red herring. Pix can drop the oxp requirements so that all can finish it. No need to segment it for that reason. I have to disagree here.....I understand your point, however value is based upon what people deem it is. Consider some classic car selling for millions of dollars......is that old car really worth that value now assigned to it? Nope....but, the next person who wants it will have to pay for it. Platinum, given the best deal of 14 per USD, now has the operations, which gives the sale price of 47 pt per USD. You stated Pt has lost value, however this sale is only during operations, and no one here will be able to know, with certainty, that Pt will even be a part of future operations. Another point I’ll make is Pt is valued higher for a player like me, who enjoys his/her Titan and wants to keep upgrading it....however, many here have gone public with their dislike of Titan, and therefore do not want, nor would ever pay for, Platinum. This topic of value of Pix content is based solely upon a given players belief of what they want or need, and if they are willing to pay for it. The fact is everyone of us who spend, regardless of how much, are getting nothing substantial in return, we are merely leasing pixels....pixels which can disappear at any moment, never to be seen again. Maybe the whales could try to chase down a company in Russia for recourse.....but very few of us can do that.....it’s just $$$$$$$ flushed down the toilet, gone forever! So, pay or not, win or lose, all of it is transitory. My hope is the game, with or without dev involvement, lasts for a good long time. Bottom line.....there is no value, at all, for any content in any lease to use mobile app game. Yet, we pay to play, and win! Yes!
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Post by T34 on May 6, 2020 19:30:36 GMT -5
The value has gone down. You get half as much gold, silver, equipment for the price. Pt is a slight offset but not equivalent IMO. The first OPS pass was the best value and then the value started fading becasue people bought it on mass (price elasticity). People not being able to finish it is a red herring. Pix can drop the oxp requirements so that all can finish it. No need to segment it for that reason. I have to disagree here.....I understand your point, however value is based upon what people deem it is. Consider some classic car selling for millions of dollars......is that old car really worth that value now assigned to it? Nope....but, the next person who wants it will have to pay for it. Platinum, given the best deal of 14 per USD, now has the operations, which gives the sale price of 47 pt per USD. You stated Pt has lost value, however this sale is only during operations, and no one here will be able to know, with certainty, that Pt will even be a part of future operations. Another point I’ll make is Pt is valued higher for a player like me, who enjoys his/her Titan and wants to keep upgrading it....however, many here have gone public with their dislike of Titan, and therefore do not want, nor would ever pay for, Platinum. This topic of value of Pix content is based solely upon a given players belief of what they want or need, and if they are willing to pay for it. The fact is everyone of us who spend, regardless of how much, are getting nothing substantial in return, we are merely leasing pixels....pixels which can disappear at any moment, never to be seen again. Maybe the whales could try to chase down a company in Russia for recourse.....but very few of us can do that.....it’s just $$$$$$$ flushed down the toilet, gone forever! So, pay or not, win or lose, all of it is transitory. My hope is the game, with or without dev involvement, lasts for a good long time. Bottom line.....there is no value, at all, for any content in any lease to use mobile app game. Yet, we pay to play, and win! Yes! A classic car selling for millions is a false equivalence. What is going on here is product pricing aligned to a lifecycle and testing of demand elasticity by Pixonic in order to maximise revenue. See link below for some insights. There is value to the goods on offer. There is value associated with pixels. People buy it and they receive a benefit from buying it just like with any other virtual product. If there was no value to it than we wouldn’t be having this discussion. When Pt went on sale its value has decreased by default. Comparing the current price to the previous price is when the price anchoring related mistake is made. With the sales, price differentiation has also been introduced. You can have a bit of Pt for a reduced price but if you want more than you have to pay the standard price. This is a constant in this game. Restrictions on goods and currency will be eased and availability improved over time and then there will be a switch. When I started the game there was only gold and silver. And now we have like 100 currencies. Don’t fall for this trick. Do not associate value with what it was before. We have moved on in the life cycle. The game is very healthy IMO. It will last for ages. The clearest sign is the amount of effort Pixonic is putting into refreshing it and modernising it. And people love buying power. Absolutely love buying it and using it. translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fdtf.ru%2F7906-ne-stesnyaytes-prodavat-moshchnost-ilya-smirnov-iz-pixonic-ob-uspeshnoy-monetizacii&edit-text=
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 22:41:58 GMT -5
For those of us getting the Ardent Blitz, we'll need about 40.7 million Silver to upgrade it to Level 9, and only 33 million Silver is provided by the Operation itself.
The Legendary Pilot's ability is already at full strength on Level 1.
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Post by rags on May 7, 2020 0:44:17 GMT -5
For those of us getting the Ardent Blitz, we'll need about 40.7 million Silver to upgrade it to Level 9, and only 33 million Silver is provided by the Operation itself. The Legendary Pilot's ability is already at full strength on Level 1. Nobody’s buying it for the silver.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 1:04:33 GMT -5
For those of us getting the Ardent Blitz, we'll need about 40.7 million Silver to upgrade it to Level 9, and only 33 million Silver is provided by the Operation itself. The Legendary Pilot's ability is already at full strength on Level 1. Nobody’s buying it for the silver. Just a reminder to save up a bit of Silver for it. I'm hoping to get mine operational ASAP.
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Post by tolmyking on May 7, 2020 1:18:55 GMT -5
Nobody’s buying it for the silver. Just a reminder to save up a bit of Silver for it. I'm hoping to get mine operational ASAP. How much $ do you think you spent on the game in total?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 1:19:25 GMT -5
Just a reminder to save up a bit of Silver for it. I'm hoping to get mine operational ASAP. How much $ do you think you spent on the game in total? Too much. Hundreds.
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Post by tolmyking on May 7, 2020 1:20:45 GMT -5
How much $ do you think you spent on the game in total? Too much. Hundreds. U think that it was worth it in the end?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 1:23:07 GMT -5
U think that it was worth it in the end? Though I wouldn't advise it in general, it gave me enjoyment during an extraordinarily tough time in my life, and helped see me through some extremely painful things. So for me, it was most definitely worth it.
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Post by tolmyking on May 7, 2020 1:24:17 GMT -5
U think that it was worth it in the end? Though I wouldn't advise it in general, it gave me enjoyment during an extraordinarily tough time in my life, and helped see me through some extremely painful things. So for me, it was most definitely worth it. o how do u get all of that money?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 1:28:53 GMT -5
Though I wouldn't advise it in general, it gave me enjoyment during an extraordinarily tough time in my life, and helped see me through some extremely painful things. So for me, it was most definitely worth it. o how do u get all of that money? It's been over around one year, and I was spending on the game things instead of Real Life stuff. I used to be addicted to online game content and I stopped almost everything else and have spent on War Robots alone. I've also spent a lot less on War Robots than some other games. So I'm substantially beating my addiction through it all too.
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Post by tolmyking on May 7, 2020 1:30:23 GMT -5
o how do u get all of that money? It's been over around one year, and I was spending on the game things instead of Real Life stuff. I used to be addicted to online game content and I stopped almost everything else and have spent on War Robots alone. I've also spent a lot less on War Robots than some other games. So I'm substantial beating my addiction too. So u don't buy anything but game stuff. U must have a well payin job.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 1:34:26 GMT -5
It's been over around one year, and I was spending on the game things instead of Real Life stuff. I used to be addicted to online game content and I stopped almost everything else and have spent on War Robots alone. I've also spent a lot less on War Robots than some other games. So I'm substantial beating my addiction too. So u don't buy anything but game stuff. U must have a well payin job. No. I get very little money. I buy very little, buy mostly second hand clothes and items, and have cut out a lot of spending in my life. And in the end, all I need is health, clothes, food, and a place to stay. Buying in-game content for various games has presently helped with my mental and emotional health. But that's a personal thing that I'm monitoring carefully.
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Post by tolmyking on May 7, 2020 1:36:06 GMT -5
So u don't buy anything but game stuff. U must have a well payin job. No. I get very little money. I buy very little, buy mostly second hand clothes and items, and have cut out a lot of spending in my life. And in the end, all I need is health, clothes, food, and a place to stay. Buying in-game content for various games has presently helped with my mental and emotional health. But that's a personal thing that I'm monitoring carefully. O. Well nvm then. Hope ya get better. Thanks for all the help u gave me on the 7 page returning thread.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2020 2:26:52 GMT -5
No. I get very little money. I buy very little, buy mostly second hand clothes and items, and have cut out a lot of spending in my life. And in the end, all I need is health, clothes, food, and a place to stay. Buying in-game content for various games has presently helped with my mental and emotional health. But that's a personal thing that I'm monitoring carefully. O. Well nvm then. Hope ya get better. Thanks for all the help u gave me on the 7 page returning thread. Thank you.
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Post by Browncoats4ever on May 17, 2020 8:22:32 GMT -5
I'm finished it today!
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 7:18:43 GMT -5
I didn't want grind but I am grinding now as I'm still on Level 39 with less than 3 days to go.
The Ardent Blitz with the Legendary Pilot has been an excellent performer.
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