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Post by bleed on Mar 20, 2017 21:05:37 GMT -5
As subjected, of course i'll want both but atm, i'm enough for just one with conditions:
My hangar is 4 slots and I have 3,000+ Gold.
And also heavily rely on 2 griffins, first griffin is with magnum + taran and another griffin with pin + tulumbas (by far my fav mid range) the other 2 slots are nothing much consist of kang dae + noricum natasha and 4x pinata gi pattron.
If im going for Rhino, i would definitely be purchasing the Orkans x2 (2400gold)
which means i wont be able to get my 5th hangar so soon as a free player.
If im going for Carnage, i will be able to purchase the 5th slot hangar as carnage would be equpping Thunder x2.
Both Bots fits my gameplay. So any advice?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 21:07:47 GMT -5
Carnage is better IMO.
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Post by Dejnov on Mar 20, 2017 21:14:45 GMT -5
Buy the Carnage and the 5th slot.
(Just buy the 5th slot.)
(But no, seriously, Carnages are good and I like my Thunder Carnage a lot.)
(But seriously buy the 5th slot...)
Dejnov
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Post by bleed on Mar 20, 2017 22:08:48 GMT -5
Buy the Carnage and the 5th slot. (Just buy the 5th slot.) (But no, seriously, Carnages are good and I like my Thunder Carnage a lot.) (But seriously buy the 5th slot...) Dejnov Looks like the 5th slot is a must though? |
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Mar 20, 2017 22:28:02 GMT -5
Buy the Carnage and the 5th slot. (Just buy the 5th slot.) (But no, seriously, Carnages are good and I like my Thunder Carnage a lot.) (But seriously buy the 5th slot...) Dejnov Looks like the 5th slot is a must though? Early leagues if you play well it may seem that the 5th slot is worthless, but as high as you go it starts to get at least mandatory for wins. Also, you can buy a Lancelot and Pixonic can nerf it, but they cant do the same with 5th slot. About your post, I would only consider buying a Carnage after I have 4x Tarans and 4x Magnums, since Carnage with Thunders are only reliable in short maps, they are best suited with Zeuses. Rhino has a cost of 15K WP, it has the same slots as Griffin, but it walks really slow even at LV 9 and you cant rely on his shield for movement, since it is linear. With that said, Griffin is a better bot overall, and it has outplay potential over Rhino and any other bot especially those ho run Orkans, so just dont buy Rhino. If you really want one between those 2, go for Carnage, but I wouldnt before 4x Tarans/Magnums as I said before. |
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 20, 2017 22:28:25 GMT -5
Buy the Carnage and the 5th slot. (Just buy the 5th slot.) (But no, seriously, Carnages are good and I like my Thunder Carnage a lot.) (But seriously buy the 5th slot...) Dejnov Looks like the 5th slot is a must though? Every time you have botted out in a match you could have done more DPS with a 5th slot and a Zennit/Norricum Natty than you would have with having 1 better bot out of your 4. Not only does the Thunder Carnage excel at knife fighting, 2 Thunders at range are still worth firing at tubby furies, lancelots and anciles. Plus if you need to convert a bot to range a carnage is much better suited than a rhino and tridents only cost wsp. Check out the Robo Dojo video posted in my video thread or on my youtube channel, will give you a good idea of how versatile a Carnage can be. |
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Post by bleed on Mar 20, 2017 23:29:02 GMT -5
Looks like the 5th slot is a must though? Early leagues if you play well it may seem that the 5th slot is worthless, but as high as you go it starts to get at least mandatory for wins. Also, you can buy a Lancelot and Pixonic can nerf it, but they cant do the same with 5th slot. About your post, I would only consider buying a Carnage after I have 4x Tarans and 4x Magnums, since Carnage with Thunders are only reliable in short maps, they are best suited with Zeuses. Rhino has a cost of 15K WP, it has the same slots as Griffin, but it walks really slow even at LV 9 and you cant rely on his shield for movement, since it is linear. With that said, Griffin is a better bot overall, and it has outplay potential over Rhino and any other bot especially those ho run Orkans, so just dont buy Rhino. If you really want one between those 2, go for Carnage, but I wouldnt before 4x Tarans/Magnums as I said before. That's my thought exactly regarding the 5th slot atm. Thanks for the clarification, i'll change my mind. But may i know the reason why for the 4x tarans and magnums? For which bot? yes, i am considering zeus for carnage but it will take a while. Usually i survive quite well at start with my pin+tulumbas griffin. Thunder carnage may seems like a good deal the rest of my bot get death by homings esp hydras and the annoying trebuchet which chipped off 25% of my griffin health at start. |
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Post by bleed on Mar 20, 2017 23:32:26 GMT -5
Looks like the 5th slot is a must though? Every time you have botted out in a match you could have done more DPS with a 5th slot and a Zennit/Norricum Natty than you would have with having 1 better bot out of your 4. Not only does the Thunder Carnage excel at knife fighting, 2 Thunders at range are still worth firing at tubby furies, lancelots and anciles. Plus if you need to convert a bot to range a carnage is much better suited than a rhino and tridents only cost wsp. Check out the Robo Dojo video posted in my video thread or on my youtube channel, will give you a good idea of how versatile a Carnage can be. Most of the time the game ended without me using my 3rd or 4th bot though, but yea will consider getting the 5th slot! Thanks. I usually leave a long range natty as my last choice bot which has longer survivability and provide cover. Thumbs up! Will be going for carnage  and the 5th slot. |
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Mar 20, 2017 23:38:38 GMT -5
Early leagues if you play well it may seem that the 5th slot is worthless, but as high as you go it starts to get at least mandatory for wins. Also, you can buy a Lancelot and Pixonic can nerf it, but they cant do the same with 5th slot. About your post, I would only consider buying a Carnage after I have 4x Tarans and 4x Magnums, since Carnage with Thunders are only reliable in short maps, they are best suited with Zeuses. Rhino has a cost of 15K WP, it has the same slots as Griffin, but it walks really slow even at LV 9 and you cant rely on his shield for movement, since it is linear. With that said, Griffin is a better bot overall, and it has outplay potential over Rhino and any other bot especially those ho run Orkans, so just dont buy Rhino. If you really want one between those 2, go for Carnage, but I wouldnt before 4x Tarans/Magnums as I said before. That's my thought exactly regarding the 5th slot atm. Thanks for the clarification, i'll change my mind. But may i know the reason why for the 4x tarans and magnums? For which bot? yes, i am considering zeus for carnage but it will take a while. Usually i survive quite well at start with my pin+tulumbas griffin. Thunder carnage may seems like a good deal the rest of my bot get death by homings esp hydras and the annoying trebuchet which chipped off 25% of my griffin health at start. Tarans and Orkans are the most popular weapons in the game, they seem to be future proof and you will find yourself using them everytime, no matter what patch Pixonic might bring, they are not going to lose popularity and effectiviness. 4x Tarans and 4x Magnums because a balanced hangar build consists of 2 plasma bots, 2 explosive bots and a mid to long range bot, so with that you can always have options for where to place your plasma, like a Griffin, Galahad, Lancelot, Rhino, Gareth and so on. |
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Mar 20, 2017 23:40:16 GMT -5
No brainer.
Carnage and fifth slot all day long (I have both). Liked it so much bought a second Carny.
I have also started to accumulate WSP points and have nothing to purchase then on - I don't own a Rhino - never will.
Might even but myself a third Carnage :-)
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Post by zr on Mar 20, 2017 23:45:02 GMT -5
Is it just me?
Or seeing a Natty drop as a last Bot, if its close, I know I will lose.
I always drop a Galahad last Bot, (I do have 2)
I run a Zeus Carnage good Bot.
5th slot for sure.
Lost many game due to other player not having enough slots, one minute everything is great, winning, then, 4 minutes left, me and one other player left, lose.
Check match report, 4 players only 3 or 4 slots, happens a lot.
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Post by Deadalready on Mar 20, 2017 23:50:37 GMT -5
The great thing about the Carnage is the fact it can slot into two excellent roles. You can use it to great effect as either a knife fighter or mid ranger to devastating effect. Secondly you can actually use the Carnage as a backup beacon runner, regardless of load out.
Rhino is only good for close range knife fighting and beacon capping, even then it's results will vary.
You however NEED the 5th slot.
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Post by bleed on Mar 21, 2017 0:22:18 GMT -5
That's my thought exactly regarding the 5th slot atm. Thanks for the clarification, i'll change my mind. But may i know the reason why for the 4x tarans and magnums? For which bot? yes, i am considering zeus for carnage but it will take a while. Usually i survive quite well at start with my pin+tulumbas griffin. Thunder carnage may seems like a good deal the rest of my bot get death by homings esp hydras and the annoying trebuchet which chipped off 25% of my griffin health at start. Tarans and Orkans are the most popular weapons in the game, they seem to be future proof and you will find yourself using them everytime, no matter what patch Pixonic might bring, they are not going to lose popularity and effectiviness. 4x Tarans and 4x Magnums because a balanced hangar build consists of 2 plasma bots, 2 explosive bots and a mid to long range bot, so with that you can always have options for where to place your plasma, like a Griffin, Galahad, Lancelot, Rhino, Gareth and so on. Good advice ninja. Will take note and thanks! |
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Post by bleed on Mar 21, 2017 0:28:16 GMT -5
Thanks all! I'll got for the 5th slot first thing first! Then the orkans. zr, im still very far to own even one of what you have i'll take it slow though and yes losing cause of team mates lol... happened to me most of the time in a losing streak. I can see that carnage can be put to good use against those hydra arphids griffin. Revenge is sweet  |
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Post by zr on Mar 21, 2017 0:31:53 GMT -5
If you get the Carnage can change to what ever weapons load out you want at a later date.
If you do buy a Carnage? Stick with it might feel a bit useless to start with, it does improve.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2017 2:17:59 GMT -5
I'm all for buying tarans w your wsp as well and getting slot 5.
That said, another route to consider is orkans now, buy another Griff, build a DB setup. Your 4 bots are really 3 bots at the moment as that noricum Tasha isn't doing anything for u. 4 really good bots may help u earn more gold and silver as u grind for slot 5.
If u don't do slot 5 now, I suggest u get a Taran, run a thunder Taran boa, and build a DB Griff. Those are 4 solid bots for your level, all using weapons you can grow with.
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Mar 21, 2017 3:20:52 GMT -5
Lots of great advice in this thread.
I'd say, Carnage, after 5th slot.
Grinding for the 5th slot is a pain, but just get it done and out of the way.
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Post by Pilot Moby_dic on Mar 21, 2017 3:42:13 GMT -5
Lots of great advice in this thread. I'd say, Carnage, after 5th slot. Grinding for the 5th slot is a pain, but just get it done and out of the way. Yeah it's a slog but once you've done it - sweeeeeertttttttttt relief |
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Post by bleed on Mar 21, 2017 4:44:27 GMT -5
I'm all for buying tarans w your wsp as well and getting slot 5. That said, another route to consider is orkans now, buy another Griff, build a DB setup. Your 4 bots are really 3 bots at the moment as that noricum Tasha isn't doing anything for u. 4 really good bots may help u earn more gold and silver as u grind for slot 5. If u don't do slot 5 now, I suggest u get a Taran, run a thunder Taran boa, and build a DB Griff. Those are 4 solid bots for your level, all using weapons you can grow with. Thanks, you got a point. I did thought of getting a 3rd griffin and install 2 orkans on it. But as per others advice, i figures getting an additional bot to spam damage might worth it too yeah my natty sucks, it was just so i could stay in the game longer by not dying woth it...and so i had her replaced temporary with lv5 vityaz which i have forgotten i had him and with thunderxpinata. Those wsp are meant for carnage or rhino i'll stick to carnage with it. |
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Post by bleed on Mar 21, 2017 4:45:52 GMT -5
Lots of great advice in this thread. I'd say, Carnage, after 5th slot. Grinding for the 5th slot is a pain, but just get it done and out of the way. Yeah, i never thought that there's gonna be that much and now it had me thinking, making the right choices you know |
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and the 5th slot. 
