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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 28, 2020 18:03:41 GMT -5
But that’s not the reason for nerfs. Once a meta item declines in revenue generation, it gets nerfed for the next generation of sales. This is their business model and it hasn’t changed in years. - Don’t try to bend the Meta, that’s impossible. Only try to realize the truth. yeah, what’s that?- That there is no meta... +1 for The Matrix reference.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Mar 28, 2020 18:06:06 GMT -5
Ao Ming are the number one problem ruining the game. As long as they are allowed to be so strong nothing else matters. They can tweak this or that and it won’t change jack. Common folk’s AMs are fine - up to about level 50-ish. It’s the maxed 150 x 25s that are the problem. But player that can afford that already have a maxed meta hanger. Meh, so they can kill me 5 times over instead of 2 times over. Find your fun where you can.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 18:13:11 GMT -5
Seems to be the official changes implemented in the test server: Are we going on the assumption that the changes will happen with the next update?
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Mar 28, 2020 18:13:36 GMT -5
Ao Ming are the number one problem ruining the game. As long as they are allowed to be so strong nothing else matters. They can tweak this or that and it won’t change jack. Top whale products are supposed to be way stronger....if that massive power gap closed by many of us dumping 3+ grand into the game, Pix would bring in something that swats Ming in seconds...and max would cost 10,000 bucks....the next level. when will it stop? When enough whales say no. Tbh, I love seeing the spending cap going from a couple hundred to a couple thousand. No real change to my gameplay and pix keeps the lights on for me.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Mar 28, 2020 18:15:14 GMT -5
Seems to be the official changes implemented in the test server: Are we going on the assumption that the changes will happen with the next update?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 18:19:42 GMT -5
Well, if/when it happens, in theory, it should free up Nightingales some.
In theory.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Mar 28, 2020 18:38:50 GMT -5
The change Phantoms really need is to have their health reduced significantly. There's no reason about that small should have that many hit points.
With the Avenger nerf on its way, it may be time to switch to the Redeemer setup permanently. I have two already, they are just not leveled up enough.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Mar 28, 2020 18:43:08 GMT -5
Ao Ming are the number one problem ruining the game. As long as they are allowed to be so strong nothing else matters. They can tweak this or that and it won’t change jack. Top whale products are supposed to be way stronger....if that massive power gap closed by many of us dumping 3+ grand into the game, Pix would bring in something that swats Ming in seconds...and max would cost 10,000 bucks....the next level. when will it stop? When enough whales say no. It's going to stop when the planet descends into a worldwide economic depression from this Coronavirus nonsense and no one has 10 grand lying around to waste on pixels.
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Post by Koko Bop on Mar 28, 2020 18:49:03 GMT -5
So, that would be about...*now*....
Seriously, the hit I taking from shutdown means absolutely NO SPENDING on fun of any kind...basic bills covered, eat light, eat sparse, but...yeah, hard stop.
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Post by RightOn on Mar 28, 2020 18:56:01 GMT -5
The change Phantoms really need is to have their health reduced significantly. There's no reason about that small should have that many hit points. With the Avenger nerf on its way, it may be time to switch to the Redeemer setup permanently. I have two already, they are just not leveled up enough. IDK 4s is a lot more time to hunt them down, if anything it makes the teleport that more tricky to utilize I just don't like the walk animation enough to even bother finishing one - besides the over abundance And Ao Jun looks like a Matel toy... And there's so much leftover spite
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Mar 28, 2020 19:27:23 GMT -5
Ah lovely. Oh well, just use Arthur or better yet a Carnage. I kill plenty of Mings with those two bots. A carnage? Right. What game are you talking about? Haha, lol. Only those that know me fairly well will understand that Carnage reference. Carry on all other folks, nothing to see here
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Mar 28, 2020 19:31:51 GMT -5
Seems to be the official changes implemented in the test server: Are we going on the assumption that the changes will happen with the next update? Probably not that quickly. Maybe only a few of those rebalances will hit the live server in the very next update.
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Post by S1E1 on Mar 28, 2020 19:32:38 GMT -5
So Overdrive Unit is a buff for Phantoms and Leeches, great. Not hard to see that all the whales and deathclans will instantly put this on their starter bots. A 25% increase in damage is huge. New whale Phantom config will be Last Stand+BB+OU. Nightingale needs a nerf not a buff. The new Legendary Pilot is turning it into a complete pain. It's basically stealthed almost as much a Loki, except then it drops down on you, unloads 2 Rimes and a Cryo, takes off before you can get it down to Last Stand and then heals enough to prevent you from triggering Last Stand the next time. And it's a lot harder to track when it's above you. A Loki at least stays on the ground so you can find it pretty quickly. . Funny thing cause my nightingale has the Legendary Pilot and i get eaten alive by ao jun with yang lee every time i take flight lol. my heal isn't fast enough to save me from the damage the ao jun is doing to me and i have it leveled to lv.10. Everyone has quantum radar these days, the it ain't safe staying in the sky with stealth either man. Do you have a Last Stand in it? It's the maxed Last Stand ones that are super frustrating to deal with. Yang Jun is definitely the counter. Unfortunately I tend to need to save mine til the end to deal with Titans. Nightingales tend to drop at the beginning of the game. Probably need to think through the order I'm dropping my bots in.
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Post by S1E1 on Mar 28, 2020 19:38:11 GMT -5
Ao Ming are the number one problem ruining the game. As long as they are allowed to be so strong nothing else matters. They can tweak this or that and it won’t change jack. Common folk’s AMs are fine - up to about level 50-ish. It’s the maxed 150 x 25s that are the problem. But player that can afford that already have a maxed meta hanger. Meh, so they can kill me 5 times over instead of 2 times over. Find your fun where you can. I don't know. I wanted to think that but it is sooo frustrating having match after match get turned by just one bot. Maybe it's because they're in a rush to get to dropping their Titan, but I find many of the maxed AM crowd now play their regular bots horribly (in solo games at least). And worse it's a sniper build so you're just pinned to the walls. So far it's been far more frustrating for me than the Ares or Leech era.
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Post by vin5240 on Mar 28, 2020 19:38:50 GMT -5
Funny thing cause my nightingale has the Legendary Pilot and i get eaten alive by ao jun with yang lee every time i take flight lol. my heal isn't fast enough to save me from the damage the ao jun is doing to me and i have it leveled to lv.10. Everyone has quantum radar these days, the it ain't safe staying in the sky with stealth either man. Do you have a Last Stand in it? It's the maxed Last Stand ones that are super frustrating to deal with. Yang Jun is definitely the counter. Unfortunately I tend to need to save mine til the end to deal with Titans. Nightingales tend to drop at the beginning of the game. Probably need to think through the order I'm dropping my bots in. While it is definitely annoying, i personally put it back in storage. Maybe i'm playing it wrong but whenever i play this bot, i always ended up ranking low in terms of damage cause i practically deal no damage while in the air and with the Legendary Pilot, it means i'm going to be in the air more lol. I also use cryo and rimes. My last stand is lv.1 haha can't afford to level.
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Post by S1E1 on Mar 28, 2020 19:48:08 GMT -5
Do you have a Last Stand in it? It's the maxed Last Stand ones that are super frustrating to deal with. Yang Jun is definitely the counter. Unfortunately I tend to need to save mine til the end to deal with Titans. Nightingales tend to drop at the beginning of the game. Probably need to think through the order I'm dropping my bots in. While it is definitely annoying, i personally put it back in storage. Maybe i'm playing it wrong but whenever i play this bot, i always ended up ranking low in terms of damage cause i practically deal no damage while in the air and with the Legendary Pilot, it means i'm going to be in the air more lol. I also use cryo and rimes. My last stand is lv.1 haha can't afford to level. Yeah I'm definitely dealing with a bunch of the maxed ones then, which keep dropping in behind me and unloading Mk2 L12 tickets into my back. Seems like there is a lot heavier Nightingale use among the top iOS clans. Can't see their hangars but fair assumption everything is maxed.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Mar 28, 2020 20:49:41 GMT -5
Common folk’s AMs are fine - up to about level 50-ish. It’s the maxed 150 x 25s that are the problem. But player that can afford that already have a maxed meta hanger. Meh, so they can kill me 5 times over instead of 2 times over. Find your fun where you can. I don't know. I wanted to think that but it is sooo frustrating having match after match get turned by just one bot. Maybe it's because they're in a rush to get to dropping their Titan, but I find many of the maxed AM crowd now play their regular bots horribly (in solo games at least). And worse it's a sniper build so you're just pinned to the walls. So far it's been far more frustrating for me than the Ares or Leech era. This is the Pix way. Each generation of meta requires less skill and more money. The server merge has renewed my enjoyment, but I suspect that will be just a temporary reprieve. Eventually the Money/Skill ratio will be so high that it will drive me out.
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Post by foxypotato on Mar 29, 2020 0:34:31 GMT -5
What an awful ?dookie?bird nerf. This is as bad as the Ares nerf. Make a crazy OP item ever so slightly worse but still abosultely dominate af and call it a nerf. Good job at at game balance pix.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Mar 29, 2020 4:00:10 GMT -5
What an awful ?dookie?bird nerf. This is as bad as the Ares nerf. Make a crazy OP item ever so slightly worse but still abosultely dominate af and call it a nerf. Good job at at game balance pix. And yet people still lose they're minds. Anything short of absolute domination is apparently too much of a nerf for some :/
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Post by Koalabear on Mar 29, 2020 9:10:35 GMT -5
Are the Shredder and Pulsar root mechanics changing to fill a gauge instead of chance to root? If so, then it doesn't impact me that much as I run more than one on a bot. The only one that would suffer would be my Ares as I only have 2 Pulsars on that, but since I run that as more of a MR harasser, it's still ok. I find my root chance to be horrible. I used to be when i ran shredder blitz, i almost always got lockdown like on the very first hit at 350-400m. Now, there are many time where i go through a full clip and no lockdown at around 350-400m range. I'm hoping with new mechanic i can always get a lockdown before i empty my clip. I tried it last night. Root was horrible at range. But closer range with 4 Shredders got me a root in one clip. I didn't get a chance to play much with Pulsars but I think they will suck too. My feeling is that you'll probably need at least 3 Pulsars to get a guaranteed root in one clip if your Pulsars aren't high level.
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Mar 29, 2020 11:41:24 GMT -5
I find my root chance to be horrible. I used to be when i ran shredder blitz, i almost always got lockdown like on the very first hit at 350-400m. Now, there are many time where i go through a full clip and no lockdown at around 350-400m range. I'm hoping with new mechanic i can always get a lockdown before i empty my clip. I tried it last night. Root was horrible at range. But closer range with 4 Shredders got me a root in one clip. I didn't get a chance to play much with Pulsars but I think they will suck too. My feeling is that you'll probably need at least 3 Pulsars to get a guaranteed root in one clip if your Pulsars aren't high level. What about two Shredders and two Pulsars? I think I would probably prefer the random rooting on these rather than the meter.
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Post by nix on Mar 29, 2020 17:16:40 GMT -5
A carnage? Right. What game are you talking about? Haha, lol. Only those that know me fairly well will understand that Carnage reference. Carry on all other folks, nothing to see here Kk, sry my bad. The reference dawned on me after I made that post. Just hate to see the nonsense that sometimes gets spouted here, and for a minute I thought you were serious.
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Post by babypoppy on Mar 29, 2020 18:48:06 GMT -5
While it is definitely annoying, i personally put it back in storage. Maybe i'm playing it wrong but whenever i play this bot, i always ended up ranking low in terms of damage cause i practically deal no damage while in the air and with the Legendary Pilot, it means i'm going to be in the air more lol. I also use cryo and rimes. My last stand is lv.1 haha can't afford to level. Yeah I'm definitely dealing with a bunch of the maxed ones then, which keep dropping in behind me and unloading Mk2 L12 tickets into my back. Seems like there is a lot heavier Nightingale use among the top iOS clans. Can't see their hangars but fair assumption everything is maxed. That's what I do with my L10 Nightingale. Lovely to drop behind some AJs and roast them. Then hide and use flight to retreat.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Mar 29, 2020 19:10:02 GMT -5
Haha, lol. Only those that know me fairly well will understand that Carnage reference. Carry on all other folks, nothing to see here Kk, sry my bad. The reference dawned on me after I made that post. Just hate to see the nonsense that sometimes gets spouted here, and for a minute I thought you were serious. All good. Just trying to get members for my one man party of the Cult of Carnage I'm basically a strongly watered down version of Earl except I'm the poster boy for Carnage.
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Post by shivaswrath on Mar 29, 2020 22:19:35 GMT -5
Ravana is due for this adjustment....very fun now.
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