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Post by kuto on Mar 28, 2020 8:15:37 GMT -5
Seems to be the official changes implemented in the test server:
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Post by mechtout on Mar 28, 2020 8:32:39 GMT -5
Avenger gets the shaft
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kuto
GI. Patton
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Pilot name: PUNISH€R
Platform: Android
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Post by kuto on Mar 28, 2020 8:46:09 GMT -5
Either increase the dispersion OR decrease the damage seems kinda ok. But the combination of the two is a huge nerf. If confirmed, this double hammer nerf will drastically lower the DPS, making it pointless at any range.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 28, 2020 9:40:04 GMT -5
THANKS to all for this intel. Well done. :-)
All the smart guys here remind me to never over-invest in any one bot or weapon. I used to be Mr. 2.12. No more. 1.9 is gonna have to work for weapons. I only push over that when there's a 25% off sale on Ag.
All this play balance stuff is baloney when the French AM is OP to the max.
Nerfing the Avenger is a bummer but not unexpected.
It took them how many years to buff the Thermite? To date it's a joke that nobody buys.
Phantom nerf, bummer, but I'll live with it.
Buffing ANY Titan weapon?!? They're kidding, right?
Blitz and Ravana: Interesting and probably needed buffs. I don't run either but in the right hands they can both be PitA deadly.
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Post by leecher123 on Mar 28, 2020 9:55:30 GMT -5
Seems to be the official changes implemented in the test server: I’m just glad I stopped playing this game for good since about a week ago. I suggest u guys do the game. It’s completely pointless in this $$ chasing, nonstop cycle of nerfing what’s working, then push sale of new pointless toys. Don’t give another dime to this Russian company. Let it rot. Let the game die.
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Post by no pain 80 on Mar 28, 2020 10:25:57 GMT -5
Having fought in the Ao Jun-dominated battlefield without Ao Jun, Phantom, Leech, or Ares, I'm not overly bothered by Ao Mings. Ao Mings: 1) Don't have auto-aim 2) Don't have Damage-over-Time 3) Can be targeted for return fire 4) Are slow as ?dookie?, so can be easily outmaneuvered 5) Can be countered just fine by an Arthur. Don't chase the Meta and you won't be crippled when the Meta gets nerfed. It's not like anyone *wasn't* expecting this. First off, I agree Ao Jun craziness is out of hands, and AJs needs a good beating. I am with you there. That being said, I find maxed plasma AMs a lot more dangerous than all the AJs combined. There is no escape, no hiding, no outmaneveuring, and no avoiding of it It 5-shot kills most bots. They are apethizers. Arthur will be a main course. It doesn't have to fly for too long to get into 600m firing range, even for large maps. It just won't die even with concentrated fire. Since the merge, it is more common sight, and even in multiples.
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Post by snk on Mar 28, 2020 10:30:54 GMT -5
Well, every nerf to normal bots/weapons = buff Titans. Only whales can have fully max Titans, we don’t care your skill or playtime, gtfo if you don’t pay like a whales.
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Mar 28, 2020 10:35:20 GMT -5
Having fought in the Ao Jun-dominated battlefield without Ao Jun, Phantom, Leech, or Ares, I'm not overly bothered by Ao Mings. Ao Mings: 1) Don't have auto-aim 2) Don't have Damage-over-Time 3) Can be targeted for return fire 4) Are slow as ?dookie?, so can be easily outmaneuvered 5) Can be countered just fine by an Arthur. Don't chase the Meta and you won't be crippled when the Meta gets nerfed. It's not like anyone *wasn't* expecting this. First off, I agree Ao Jun craziness is out of hands, and AJs needs a good beating. I am with you there. That being said, I find maxed plasma AMs a lot more dangerous than all the AJs combined. There is no escape, no hiding, no outmaneveuring, and no avoiding of it It 5-shot kills most bots. They are apethizers. Arthur will be a main course. It doesn't have to fly for too long to get into 600m firing range, even for large maps. It just won't die even with concentrated fire. Since the merge, it is more common sight, and even in multiples. The answer to Ao Ming: Loki. Don't fight them, just go stealth mode and cap all their beacons.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 28, 2020 10:41:38 GMT -5
The answer to Ao Ming: Loki. Don't fight them, just go stealth mode and cap all their beacons.
A-men, bro! High five! Bam!
Adamant-to-the-mutha-fracking-Road-Hog!
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 28, 2020 12:31:46 GMT -5
Overdrive Unit: Does it work like BB where it is temporary, or, is it permanently on as long as you are below X percentage health? If it is permanently on, you can dance with the devil and a healing module you can keep your output buffed.
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Post by Garbage game on Mar 28, 2020 12:40:05 GMT -5
First off, I agree Ao Jun craziness is out of hands, and AJs needs a good beating. I am with you there. That being said, I find maxed plasma AMs a lot more dangerous than all the AJs combined. There is no escape, no hiding, no outmaneveuring, and no avoiding of it It 5-shot kills most bots. They are apethizers. Arthur will be a main course. It doesn't have to fly for too long to get into 600m firing range, even for large maps. It just won't die even with concentrated fire. Since the merge, it is more common sight, and even in multiples. The answer to Ao Ming: Loki. Don't fight them, just go stealth mode and cap all their beacons. Go check out my locked thread about Titan Quantum Radar... war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/post/559529/thread
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Post by Desc440 on Mar 28, 2020 12:55:13 GMT -5
lol they take the Phantom to the woodshed (40% increase in cooldown?!?) and barely touch the Ao Jun... What the actual 「fluffernutter」, Pixo?
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 28, 2020 13:16:37 GMT -5
Any more news on Titan Quantum Radar module?
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Post by CrownBlack on Mar 28, 2020 14:03:42 GMT -5
So glad I have some vipers to use now...
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Post by blackheart on Mar 28, 2020 14:15:04 GMT -5
i might finally get to use my avalanche after the buff.
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Post by nomercy on Mar 28, 2020 15:35:43 GMT -5
I don't understand why they keep nerfying, they are becoming irritating. The shotguns nerf was tough, very tough. Many good players have already abandoned, someone has reorganized. Nobody likes the idea of ??the titans, let's face it. If they continue to nerfy, many more will abandon the game. That crap of Ravana remains inferior to Leech even with the buff ...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 16:11:49 GMT -5
Fix the spiders, fix the dash animations, fix the jump animations? Maybe? After 2 months? No? What a pathetic company... And good luck locking anyone down with a shredder or pulsar after this. They might as well remove lockdown from Shredder and Glory. It’s because no one upgrades their anti-control modules, so they sell no Ag. Remove / nerf lockdown and everyone will ditch the anti-control in favour of the new overdrive module. Also, Ravana buff allows it to remain invincible when used with phase shift and pilot skills. That’s the nerf to the Leech.
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Post by Danny Linguini on Mar 28, 2020 17:03:16 GMT -5
So anyone wishing for a nerf to the French weapons on a Ming, you might get your wish. Because .... Cyclone and Cataclysm I guess are on the TS now, titan versions of Scrooge. If you though the 600m plasma was OP, you ainât seen nothinâ yet. Manni already thinks theyâre ridiculous. I canât wait ... the 「female dog」ing will be off the charts.
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Post by linearblade on Mar 28, 2020 17:04:02 GMT -5
Ao Jun nerf is laughably bad.
How will have little actual affect in game. Much like the ares, it will balance from people not liking the movement change or getting bored. And not fro. Actual balance
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Mar 28, 2020 17:11:35 GMT -5
Ah lovely. Oh well, just use Arthur or better yet a Carnage. I kill plenty of Mings with those two bots.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Mar 28, 2020 17:25:28 GMT -5
YES! Finally. I really hope this means the reign of the Ao Jun, Avengers and Phantom are done. I have a Phantom, I just build an Ao Jun, but I don't care receiving a hit as long as they lower in numbers. I'm tired of hiding in the dumpster while the rich kids of the neighborhood play in the street with their expensive toys. ummm the rich kids will always be in the street playing with their expensive toys...one thing gets "nerfed" and the kids move on to the next expensive toy while you are left playing with the nerfed one. yeah, everyone’s talking about Ao Jun nerf. Meanwhile Ravana gets a buff. Seriously, W T Stinky F?! That thing is already a beast to take down.
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Post by nix on Mar 28, 2020 17:27:12 GMT -5
Ah lovely. Oh well, just use Arthur or better yet a Carnage. I kill plenty of Mings with those two bots. A carnage? Right. What game are you talking about?
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Post by integeritis on Mar 28, 2020 17:29:41 GMT -5
Fix the spiders, fix the dash animations, fix the jump animations? Maybe? After 2 months? No? What a pathetic company... And good luck locking anyone down with a shredder or pulsar after this. They might as well remove lockdown from Shredder and Glory. It’s because no one upgrades their anti-control modules, so they sell no Ag. Remove / nerf lockdown and everyone will ditch the anti-control in favour of the new overdrive module. Also, Ravana buff allows it to remain invincible when used with phase shift and pilot skills. That’s the nerf to the Leech. That makes a lot of sense, I have one AC and lvl 1 is really enough for critical situations to save your life once. Suppression bots will benefit greatly from less AC on the battlefield. I don’t like the idea of the new module though, it has the potential to be very unbalanced if the duration is not short enough. I don’t have the silver to upgrade non basic modules, at least last time with AC they made me spend 5k Au. Now they get booth 0 silver and 0 gold from me. There is a double paywall, you need silver to spend gold and gold to be able to spend silver. One of these components missing and I’ll keep my resource. Well, now I think I am just repeating what we already know and I talk too much again! Lol Personally I find AC still very usefull for my resource budget, I can counter one kind of ability consistently which is suppression.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Mar 28, 2020 17:30:55 GMT -5
Just waiting, and waiting, and waiting for all the assumptions. The only thing Pixo has proven in the past - they don't care about feedback, and they nerf anything that gets popular or used in excess preventing money flow for the newest and brightest toys the Sovereign provide. When players (mostly whales) understand that abusing of the same tactic is the reason why nerfs ocurrs the nerfs will stop. But also Pixonic is to blame for allowing people to run 5 of most powerful items in the game. Or release broken new content from the beginning. But that’s not the reason for nerfs. Once a meta item declines in revenue generation, it gets nerfed for the next generation of sales. This is their business model and it hasn’t changed in years. - Don’t try to bend the Meta, that’s impossible. Only try to realize the truth. yeah, what’s that?- That there is no meta...
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Post by rags on Mar 28, 2020 17:41:16 GMT -5
Ao Ming are the number one problem ruining the game. As long as they are allowed to be so strong nothing else matters. They can tweak this or that and it won’t change jack.
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Post by vin5240 on Mar 28, 2020 17:53:36 GMT -5
Are the Shredder and Pulsar root mechanics changing to fill a gauge instead of chance to root? If so, then it doesn't impact me that much as I run more than one on a bot. The only one that would suffer would be my Ares as I only have 2 Pulsars on that, but since I run that as more of a MR harasser, it's still ok. I find my root chance to be horrible. I used to be when i ran shredder blitz, i almost always got lockdown like on the very first hit at 350-400m. Now, there are many time where i go through a full clip and no lockdown at around 350-400m range. I'm hoping with new mechanic i can always get a lockdown before i empty my clip.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2020 17:56:23 GMT -5
Ao Ming are the number one problem ruining the game. As long as they are allowed to be so strong nothing else matters. They can tweak this or that and it won’t change jack. Top whale products are supposed to be way stronger....if that massive power gap closed by many of us dumping 3+ grand into the game, Pix would bring in something that swats Ming in seconds...and max would cost 10,000 bucks....the next level. when will it stop? When enough whales say no.
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Post by vin5240 on Mar 28, 2020 17:57:32 GMT -5
So Overdrive Unit is a buff for Phantoms and Leeches, great. Not hard to see that all the whales and deathclans will instantly put this on their starter bots. A 25% increase in damage is huge. New whale Phantom config will be Last Stand+BB+OU. Nightingale needs a nerf not a buff. The new Legendary Pilot is turning it into a complete pain. It's basically stealthed almost as much a Loki, except then it drops down on you, unloads 2 Rimes and a Cryo, takes off before you can get it down to Last Stand and then heals enough to prevent you from triggering Last Stand the next time. And it's a lot harder to track when it's above you. A Loki at least stays on the ground so you can find it pretty quickly. . Funny thing cause my nightingale has the Legendary Pilot and i get eaten alive by ao jun with yang lee every time i take flight lol. my heal isn't fast enough to save me from the damage the ao jun is doing to me and i have it leveled to lv.10. Everyone has quantum radar these days, the it ain't safe staying in the sky with stealth either man.
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Mar 28, 2020 18:01:35 GMT -5
So Overdrive Unit is a buff for Phantoms and Leeches, great. Not hard to see that all the whales and deathclans will instantly put this on their starter bots. A 25% increase in damage is huge. New whale Phantom config will be Last Stand+BB+OU. Nightingale needs a nerf not a buff. The new Legendary Pilot is turning it into a complete pain. It's basically stealthed almost as much a Loki, except then it drops down on you, unloads 2 Rimes and a Cryo, takes off before you can get it down to Last Stand and then heals enough to prevent you from triggering Last Stand the next time. And it's a lot harder to track when it's above you. A Loki at least stays on the ground so you can find it pretty quickly. . Funny thing cause my nightingale has the Legendary Pilot and i get eaten alive by ao jun with yang lee every time i take flight lol. my heal isn't fast enough to save me from the damage the ao jun is doing to me and i have it leveled to lv.10. Everyone has quantum radar these days, the it ain't safe staying in the sky with stealth either man. I run Quantum Radar on my Nightingale. If an Ao Jun comes after me I zap him to uselessness for that run. So far it's worked, maybe my luck is running out.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Mar 28, 2020 18:03:01 GMT -5
Well, I’ve been playing for a month w no Ao Jun, no Phantom, no Leech, no Ares, no shotguns, no lockdown, no PS, yada yada yada. In running 5 bots w heavy weapons I can say the Avenger nerf is a long time coming. The Avenger Falcon is absolutely redonkadonk.
It looks like I picked the right month to upgrade Vipers!
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