Upgrade 1 bot at time vs balanced hanger?

Bro/sis whateva u r this is a great question and I hope I learn stuff from other posters about it. I'm 6/8 and I think I'm going to start only upgrading weapons and bots that will b part of my final lineup.
I think u should balance FOR THE MOST PART. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but mm takes into account your strongest bot more than your weaker (just like squad strength) so if one is way op then u will get placed in matches that are op against your other weaker bots.
From what I've heard many bots max out speed at level 9, so that's almost like a safe best bet minimum target for where bots can end up for a while.
As for weapons I don't know, I've seen theories suggesting whether increasing damage or health gives u better win%. My intuition is there's a bifurcation whereby bringing bot level to certain parameter increases optimum opportunity for survival without costing any extra in increasing health as opposed to investment in the firepower you'll b using while sitting being shot at. So maybe once u get that max speed increase at bot lvl 9 it's more worth it to focus on upgrading all weapons to 12 b4 maxing out bots. Maybe.

I play for fun as well - I also get distracted with my upgrades.....currently Molot's for a Griffin are catching my eye.

The challenge with having 7+ bots plus weapon load out - is that I'm really overstretched now that I'm reaching lvl 9. So I'm thinking of upgrading a core hanger first (to be competitive). The experimental stuff can come later

Cheers bro.

I'm nearly there at getting my bots to lvl 9 and the speed bumps.

My understanding is that MM doesn't take into account hanger strength (or no where near as much as it did). Otherwise no idea why I'm consistently a couple levels the weakest hanger in a match.

Damage output is the key now. With that in mind I'm thinking of having a trail blazer (one bot) higher than the others might maximise my damage output. In probably about 50% of matches I don't use all bots anyway - perhaps a waste of upgrading if I'm not constantly using all 5 slots. If you catch my drift?

I've just levelled my Gali to 9 as well. I think I'm in two minds, I might continue upgrading the Gali for the extra HP and shield and the weapons on it. Or might turn my attention to the Lancile I have. As I've heard that is a beast at higher levels (I'm 8/8/8/8)

Don't forget the extra 10k in shield :-)

Looking at 20.4m to get my Gala weapons lvl 10 as well - crying

Cheers Challenger interesting insight and strategy.

Do you always lead with this bot first then? And are you going to do the same with your other bots

Getting max speed makes a considerable difference, so getting 'bots to level 9 should be a priority. (After that level up the ones you find you use the most and have the most fun with.)

However, I would still advise upgrading weapons before 'bots:

(1) 'bots may change but weapons can be moved around. I don't think you will find anyone who laments levelling up 2-4 each of Orkans, Tarans and Magnums - it would be a rare hangar that didn't incorporate at least two of each regardless of 'bots.

(2) HP upgrades 6% per 'bot level; damage upgrades 10% per weapon level.

(3) Imho skill-full play rewards damage given more than damaged received; you aim to maximise shots on target whilst minimising hits taken.

I did 9/9 on my bots and then start rushing 12/12 on main ones, did not regret the choice, here's what I've got now:


I have a Stuka Griffin laying in the back of my hangar at stock levels, so when I finish my Fury I'll start upgrading him to 9.
I did that ever since I started understanding more about the game and with the current MM you should not be afraid to level things such as Orkans, Tarans and Zeus. (I cant see Griffins getting out of the meta even though its already changing, prior to Tridents wich are getting outclassed by Zeuses).

Leveling equally or promoting a single bot:
I've been thinking about promoting just one bot above the others for a bit, and I do think that bot would do more damage. That's the trouble, though. If it does more damage, you'll do higher average damage and presumably win more games. Which means you go up a league. Which means you face a higher average of bots, presumably. Your "left behind" bots will get further and further behind and less and less useful in your games. I'm thinking I'll stick to keeping my hangar equally leveled.

Bots vs Weapons:
For quite a while I've been noticing that most of the top damagers in my games have bots higher than weapons. Maybe that's just an artifact of small-sample statistics, or of me not paying attention to the expected result (top damagers having weapons higher than bots) but I'm starting to think it's not just random noise. Higher level bots are faster (until lvl9) and tougher than equivalent bots. That means they can get into or out of positions easier (potentially taking less damage) and when they do take damage, they can take more of it, meaning they are around longer to deal their damage. This is especially true as they cross those big boundaries (such as going from 2 DB Griffin hits to 3 before dying.)

Also, from straight math, sure the bot gains 6% more staying power (we'll ignore the speed part right now) and the weapon gains 10%. But the 10% is for just one weapon. That 6% means that ALL the weapons last 6% longer. If I've got 3 weapons that each do 1000 damage and I upgrade 1, I'll do 3100 damage total. If I upgrade the bot, I get 6% more damage from all 3 weapons, which would be 3180.

Y'know, I've been on the fence about upgrading bots first, but I think I just talked myself into it

Favorite bot first.

My list goes:
1) Plasma Gareth
2) Zeus Carnage
3) ADB Griffin
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I am leveling based on minimal time for an upgrade to level 9. At that point, I look at leveling the bots and weapons I use in every match. For me this is Ancilot, Plasmahad, and DB Griffin. I will level the 3 bots and Ancile to 10 or perhaps 11, then catch the weapons up. I am specificallly looking to make it into Gold 1 before the next league season (for the higher gold reward). At that point it is a slow upgrade and grind up to diamond.

One thing everyone should remember is that as you level up you are getting about 10% of the current hit points/damage. So you actually get the largest number/total increase at the last levels. You area also leveling yourself out of bot dependent battles (e.g. if you both have 12/12 hangars then the crappier players with great hangars will fall to the leagues below you) and into battles where the only thing separating you from the other pilot is your skill and ability to metagame (which is dependent on skill (and hangar options)). This premise more or less works because tankers/droppers happen about equally to everyone at a certain level, so overall you will definitely rise to your skill. Eventually you will need good team mates to go any further, which usually means a good clan.