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Post by MCYL on Mar 20, 2017 1:27:14 GMT -5
This has been my current setup for sometime: The Boa is left on Lv 6 as it's often subbed out for an Aphid Stalker. I'm currently around 4 days (in both gold and WSP) away from permanently subbing it out for a Orkan/Aphid Rhino or alternatively a plasma Rhino and Stuka Griff. My goal was to build a hangar with emphasis on mobility and a Rhino would allow me to advance at similar speeds to other Galahads and carnages. However I've noticed at Diamond lev 2/3 Rhinos have become increasingly vulnerable and given my current gold/WSP state I could buy another Taran + magnum to build this , (Gary wd yet unbought plasma) keep stashing gold and keep leveling. I've postponed a Rhino purchase 3 times now, dunno why it's feels so hard to pull the trigger on this particular bot. What would be your advice for a hangar to play at higher diamond and expert tiers? Thanks.
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Mar 20, 2017 1:35:12 GMT -5
Just to know, are you playing on ios by the way? with how your hangar is leveled, I couldnt imagine myself on Diamond II (The highest league I managed to get so far). I would not run the Gary since he is too squishy to deal with heavies on higher leagues, I can only deal with Ancilots when I use mine since they are easy to outplay due to lack of mobility. You can put another Orkan/Aphid or Pinata Griffin in the place of Gary, and maybe think of changing the Gala or the PDB Griffin with an Ancilot (I would change the PDB Griff for him). Get 2 Zeus later on and put them on Carnage, and after that go for Fury and another Zeus. Tridents are less and less worthy as I can see in Diamond, and when their bug gets fixed people will start using it even more. Also, Rhinos only have linear mobility, they dont have any outplay potential besides rising their shield and becoming imobile, so I wouldnt run them and Griffin does what a Rhino can do even better since he has jump.
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Post by spawnreaper on Mar 20, 2017 1:35:52 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with 3 griffons since it seems you like them use wsp to make one a mid fielder with hydras. I'm actually playing around with a rhino with hydras atm just to see how that works with mixed results. Although I've had good results using it as last bot tricky to use.
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Post by MCYL on Mar 20, 2017 2:12:19 GMT -5
Just to know, are you playing on ios by the way? with how your hangar is leveled, I couldnt imagine myself on Diamond II (The highest league I managed to get so far). I would not run the Gary since he is too squishy to deal with heavies on higher leagues, I can only deal with Ancilots when I use mine since they are easy to outplay due to lack of mobility. You can put another Orkan/Aphid or Pinata Griffin in the place of Gary, and maybe think of changing the Gala or the PDB Griffin with an Ancilot (I would change the PDB Griff for him). Get 2 Zeus later on and put them on Carnage, and after that go for Fury and another Zeus. Tridents are less and less worthy as I can see in Diamond, and when their bug gets fixed people will start using it even more. Also, Rhinos only have linear mobility, they dont have any outplay potential besides rising their shield and becoming imobile, so I wouldnt run them and Griffin does what a Rhino can do even better since he has jump. Yes I'm on iOS. At Diamond 3 I am facing Lv 8-9s and at Dia 2 things do get tough but I have been able to hang around the 3rd - 5th places and remain in tier. The Gary is indeed squishy and his main role is to spawn 4th or 5th in larger maps to liberate distant beacons. I'm pretty comfortable with griffins (used to run 4 of them before the gold bots). I've got enough currency in reserve for another set of Tarans and another orkan. Ancillots wouldn't be in the picture for at least another 2 months from now. But it's certainly something to keep in mind for the upgrade path as I already have leveled thunders Zeus, funnily enough I already have one from the last season events. So....for the meantime more Tarans for griffins and an extra Zeus?
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Post by MCYL on Mar 20, 2017 2:16:08 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with 3 griffons since it seems you like them use wsp to make one a mid fielder with hydras. I'm actually playing around with a rhino with hydras atm just to see how that works with mixed results. Although I've had good results using it as last bot tricky to use. Nothing wrong at all. I was running 2x RUssians a PDB and a DB in the past. I just wanted to shift to a faster set....thinking back if I stuck to Griffs I'd be pretty close to ancillot money by now. No regrets though as it's been great fun even if unviable for future.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 2:54:29 GMT -5
As a lover of the rhino, I would not recommend buying a rhino. Not here to change ur mind or talk bad about rhino, but Griff just does it all better. Use wsp for plasma and tridents. Also, eventually, Gary's and stalkers won't cut it... Galahad, Griff's, carnage, and Lance when u can afford it. Just my thoughts. Good luck and enjoy.
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Post by MCYL on Mar 20, 2017 3:39:35 GMT -5
As a lover of the rhino, I would not recommend buying a rhino. Not here to change ur mind or talk bad about rhino, but Griff just does it all better. Use wsp for plasma and tridents. Also, eventually, Gary's and stalkers won't cut it... Galahad, Griff's, carnage, and Lance when u can afford it. Just my thoughts. Good luck and enjoy. Haha, I was having doubts now it's fully changed. I'll grab one when I have everything and plenty of WSP to play with then. Thanks.
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Post by MCYL on Mar 20, 2017 3:57:47 GMT -5
Thanks all for your input. I'll keep running my current hangar with adjustments to the upgrade roadmap in the background. End result will be a plasmahad, 1 DB/Stuka Griff, 2x PDB Griffs and a Zeus Carnage.
What I have now is still fun and I should have a ~7x8 overall hangar in the described config by the time I hit a wall.
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Mar 20, 2017 11:31:29 GMT -5
Just to know, are you playing on ios by the way? with how your hangar is leveled, I couldnt imagine myself on Diamond II (The highest league I managed to get so far). I would not run the Gary since he is too squishy to deal with heavies on higher leagues, I can only deal with Ancilots when I use mine since they are easy to outplay due to lack of mobility. You can put another Orkan/Aphid or Pinata Griffin in the place of Gary, and maybe think of changing the Gala or the PDB Griffin with an Ancilot (I would change the PDB Griff for him). Get 2 Zeus later on and put them on Carnage, and after that go for Fury and another Zeus. Tridents are less and less worthy as I can see in Diamond, and when their bug gets fixed people will start using it even more. Also, Rhinos only have linear mobility, they dont have any outplay potential besides rising their shield and becoming imobile, so I wouldnt run them and Griffin does what a Rhino can do even better since he has jump. Yes I'm on iOS. At Diamond 3 I am facing Lv 8-9s and at Dia 2 things do get tough but I have been able to hang around the 3rd - 5th places and remain in tier. The Gary is indeed squishy and his main role is to spawn 4th or 5th in larger maps to liberate distant beacons. I'm pretty comfortable with griffins (used to run 4 of them before the gold bots). I've got enough currency in reserve for another set of Tarans and another orkan. Ancillots wouldn't be in the picture for at least another 2 months from now. But it's certainly something to keep in mind for the upgrade path as I already have leveled thunders Zeus, funnily enough I already have one from the last season events. So....for the meantime more Tarans for griffins and an extra Zeus? I'm on Android facing LV 10+ and frequent maxed out hangars on Diamond II, my friend is Silver and he said that there is no difference out there too, Android MM is pretty much broken now. You are right about the future of Ancilots, but my advice was for the current meta, probably the new bot may replace the Lancelot (Dash MK2), but yes, for now just go another Zeus and more Plasma.
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Post by MCYL on Mar 20, 2017 11:39:02 GMT -5
This is the best I can cobble together so far funnily I took a dip in scores but just managed to claw back up to Dia 3. Guess the new Taran and Mag needs more DPS and I've forgot how quick an exposed Griff can die Also the new MM makes it a bit more challenging. Which ain't a bad thing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 11:44:04 GMT -5
Id keep the Boa and upgrade it to level 9 where it's speed tops out (just as fast as a golem). It's one of the most underestimated bots in the game. I never use my Rhino. I'd get a Fujin. A triple orkan fujin will shred rhinos and lancelots left and right.
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Post by spawnreaper on Mar 20, 2017 20:33:59 GMT -5
As a lover of the rhino, I would not recommend buying a rhino. Not here to change ur mind or talk bad about rhino, but Griff just does it all better. Use wsp for plasma and tridents. Also, eventually, Gary's and stalkers won't cut it... Galahad, Griff's, carnage, and Lance when u can afford it. Just my thoughts. Good luck and enjoy. Haha, I was having doubts now it's fully changed. I'll grab one when I have everything and plenty of WSP to play with then. Thanks. Yeah good idea u get to a point were you will have more wsp than you want. Id buy all wsp weapons you will need first. Would be a good idea if you could donate wsp to clanmates just on this account I have 75k doing nothing and my main account has over 150k doing nothing. Seems like wsp points outlive any purpose after a while, maybe cowboy bots will be wsp since they suck compared to shield botz.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 20:59:53 GMT -5
This is the best I can cobble together so far funnily I took a dip in scores but just managed to claw back up to Dia 3. Guess the new Taran and Mag needs more DPS and I've forgot how quick an exposed Griff can die Also the new MM makes it a bit more challenging. Which ain't a bad thing. You have too much Plasma and not enough splash in your hangar. I'd suggest making the Thunder Carnage a Trident Carnage and the Plasma Griffin an Aphid Orkan Griffin.
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Post by MCYL on Mar 21, 2017 5:03:32 GMT -5
This is the best I can cobble together so far funnily I took a dip in scores but just managed to claw back up to Dia 3. Guess the new Taran and Mag needs more DPS and I've forgot how quick an exposed Griff can die Also the new MM makes it a bit more challenging. Which ain't a bad thing. You have too much Plasma and not enough splash in your hangar. I'd suggest making the Thunder Carnage a Trident Carnage and the Plasma Griffin an Aphid Orkan Griffin. Yeah was painfully aware of that, but I had only two Orkans, 2 aphids and 2 pinatas (did a major spring clean to de litter recently) This setup moves like treacle but keeps me among the top 1/2 of the roster whether I win or lose @ iOS Diamond 3. For now the tridents a still quite viable but in time I should get a 2nd Zeus for the Carnage. Always a juggle between thunders or midrange with the Carnage.
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