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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 19, 2017 14:16:45 GMT -5
All: I know it is going to be hard, but I ask that you all contain yourselves in this thread, so it doesn't get shoved into rants. If it goes there I'm going to end up with a skewed set of data, and that simply won't work. I am building a Monte Carlo model of the new MM. The initial version of this will only account for slots, bot levels, and win rates. If you filled out the poll please screen shot the hanger you use most with the bot and weapon levels showing (it should look like this i.imgur.com/MdEIb5z.png ) . Attach the screen shot to this thread and state what platform you took it on and how you responded to the poll. Again, please refrain from using this thread to complain I don't want to end up in rants! EDIT: IOS folks are rocking, android players are barely here... I thought that this was going to go down the other way.
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Post by 3castle on Mar 19, 2017 15:04:04 GMT -5
lol "i have less than 3 slots"
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 19, 2017 15:07:40 GMT -5
lol "i have less than 3 slots" New players, the foolish, I have seen them in the wild with high level bots no less...
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Post by Duodec on Mar 19, 2017 15:20:55 GMT -5
Five slots, going up, although very slowly because I play only casually now to clear two daily objectives. I'm on Android. The Fury gets swapped for TT all at level 8 fairly regularly depending how I feel.
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Post by Replicant on Mar 19, 2017 15:35:50 GMT -5
iPhone 5 slots new MM is letting me progress. The Taran Fujin sometimes goes Tulu and the Zeus Carnage sometimes goes Trident
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Post by Paps on Mar 19, 2017 17:01:30 GMT -5
Android. 5 hangar slots. Slow. Creep. Up. Borked MM, so I play considerably less.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 19, 2017 17:09:54 GMT -5
Android. 5 hangar slots. Slow. Creep. Up. Borked MM, so I play considerably less. Samesies!
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Post by Divine Thunder on Mar 19, 2017 17:17:06 GMT -5
Voted - 5 slots and not progressing. Actually, i am stagnate, baically, bouncing up and down over a 150 point window. Play ios - ipad. .
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Post by ShutUpAndSmokeMyWeed on Mar 19, 2017 17:22:07 GMT -5
5 slots maxed and steadily rising because I platoon most of the time. If I went solo I'd probably lose points.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 19, 2017 17:39:33 GMT -5
5 slots and able to progress. I run so light to *avoid* gaining league points too quickly. I also have a Trident Fury, Taran Ancilot and Thunder Carnage that I can sub in as desired, but usually don't. However my clan mates have 8/8 hangars and play in Silver and to me the main (former) appeal of this game is to play with them, so to me 'progressing' sounds about as good as 'increasing the amount of hacksaw blade jammed up my ?bum-bum?'. YMMV.
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 19, 2017 18:07:07 GMT -5
lol "i have less than 3 slots" I lost, this was top damage dealer on the other team:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 19:51:55 GMT -5
This was mine when I was playing with another clan mate in Diamond 3 games.
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Platform: iOS
League: Diamond
Server Region: North America
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Post by bot9000 on Mar 19, 2017 20:36:13 GMT -5
Selected "5 Slots new MM is knocking me down", as movement is 1step forward & 5 steps back. Playing on iOS.
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Server Region: Europe
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Post by IXIGeorgelXl on Mar 19, 2017 21:46:31 GMT -5
Solo player, 4 slots, up and down mostly down when higher leaguers are placed on the red side On iOS
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Mar 19, 2017 21:53:42 GMT -5
iOS, answered 5 slots going up. So far. Haven't played that many with the new scoring yet.
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Post by hi5 on Mar 19, 2017 22:52:52 GMT -5
iOS 5 slots and pushing down a little. Am lower than where I initially placed but have been to the top of d3 and bottom.
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Pilot name: Lamon-0
Platform: Android
Clan: Thor
League: Diamond
Server Region: North America
Favorite robot: Ancilot
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Post by lamon on Mar 19, 2017 23:53:51 GMT -5
On android, I've been rubber banding between diamond 1-2. That appears to be the limit for my hanger/skill lvl.
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Post by hyderier on Mar 20, 2017 0:12:03 GMT -5
Selected "5 Slots new MM is knocking me down", as movement is 1step forward & 5 steps back. With the new scoring, how do you manage that, with wins at 54%? With old MM it would have been easy, one -20 loss offsets five +4 wins. But with new one, what do you mean? Are you always last in your team, win or lose, or what?
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Karma: 67
Pilot name: -:Dr. Jackal:-
Platform: iOS
Clan: [GmbH]
League: Expert
Server Region: Europe
Favorite robot: Galahad
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Post by drjackal on Mar 20, 2017 0:35:04 GMT -5
5 slots and MM is letting me progress (into Diamond I yesterday).
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Mar 20, 2017 0:39:14 GMT -5
*Noticing most progressions occur to older players due to hangar strength*
smfh
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Post by sonofsam on Mar 20, 2017 6:13:46 GMT -5
this was actually taken several days ago but the first 4 bots stay there the 5th not (right side) has been a revolving door sometimes a stalker, sometimes a Griffin with a DB, plasma, aphid/ork, or Malot, sometimes it's a Pinta Leo. I just haven't found what I really like there yet because it seems every time I switch bots I really miss the last one I had there. I know eventually it will be a Lance but that will be a good ways off. Android moving up. Halfway through silver 1 now
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Post by Demosthenes on Mar 20, 2017 6:30:52 GMT -5
5 slots. iOS. Prior to change I was yo-yo-ing between Diamond II and Diamond I; had been up and down 5 times. Since change to leagues I have slowly and steadily progressed to the middle of Diamond I. Games are better now that a higher proportion of players on both teams play to win. My play-style has always been to play for the win and favours fire-power and mobility so the old league system didn't suit me particularly well.
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Post by Fanghorn on Mar 20, 2017 8:13:51 GMT -5
I've been slowly progressing. Run on iPhone/iPad. Last 50 battles or so I've gone with the Thunder Carnage and Ancile Lancelot. I also have a Trident Fury that could swap in. 10 days ago I was at 48% rate, 4100 League points, but 450K damage. Was running a different lineup though....
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 20, 2017 8:15:36 GMT -5
im going down, close to being bumped down to silver I
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 9:50:14 GMT -5
This was mine when I was playing with another clan mate in Diamond 3 games. There's no league banner. Do you have anything current?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 10:01:48 GMT -5
This was mine when I was playing with another clan mate in Diamond 3 games. There's no league banner. Do you have anything current? That was 3 days ago. Right now I have 4.9 kills, 550K DMG, 78% win rate and using 7/8 Trident Fury, 7/8 Aphid Taran Griffin, 8/8 DB Griffin, 8/8 Plasma Galahad and 7/8 Orkan Pinata Galahad.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 10:04:06 GMT -5
Up and down a lot. Seems each time I get to the 5 games for diamond 3 I get lumped with the gimps. I should point out I'm currently levelling up the Carnage. Butch only comes out for campers and rocket monkeys. Still waiting on the WSP to get the next trident, then level that up. Attachment Deleted
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 20, 2017 10:33:13 GMT -5
Selected "5 Slots new MM is knocking me down", as movement is 1step forward & 5 steps back. With the new scoring, how do you manage that, with wins at 54%? With old MM it would have been easy, one -20 loss offsets five +4 wins. But with new one, what do you mean? Are you always last in your team, win or lose, or what? Last place win + last place loss = -6 points. If you place last consistently (capping beacons) then you can maintain a 60% win rate and not progress (in the current point spread). If you remain in the 3-5 range, win or loss, your still "falling down" all be it, more slowly. On android silver, the difference between a mid silver and high silver hanger isn't big for 5 slot players. I estimate that it is about 15 days to get there (for me) --- and I don't expect to win a lot in that time. What is interesting, and I hope the model proves, is that having fewer slots will leave you in a place where you have a high loss rate but more high placements (1st and 2nd) -- 4 slot players will end up rubber banding. I came to the conclusion that I don't need the model to be 100% accurate. That I don't need to account for all the nuance of fittings vs map, I just have to have the idea there and represented. As an example. An all furry team should win vs an all knifer team on canyon and springfield, the knifers should win on dead city and power plant, and yama and shenzhen should be a toss up. Is this a perfect model of how the games will play out... no there is a lot more nuance to that. However enough samples over enough matches with enough hangers should produce results that model reality.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 11:36:25 GMT -5
There's no league banner. Do you have anything current? That was 3 days ago. Right now I have 4.9 kills, 550K DMG, 78% win rate and using 7/8 Trident Fury, 7/8 Aphid Taran Griffin, 8/8 DB Griffin, 8/8 Plasma Galahad and 7/8 Orkan Pinata Galahad. Why no league banner like everyone else?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2017 11:47:54 GMT -5
That was 3 days ago. Right now I have 4.9 kills, 550K DMG, 78% win rate and using 7/8 Trident Fury, 7/8 Aphid Taran Griffin, 8/8 DB Griffin, 8/8 Plasma Galahad and 7/8 Orkan Pinata Galahad. Why no league banner like everyone else? Sometimes, the internet does not show the clans or leagues.
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