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Post by Dead Mechanism on Mar 18, 2017 1:39:23 GMT -5
The last several test servers have removed the Wild Bunch bots. No Doc, no Jessi, No Butch.
It's been ages since they went live but are still not available. Now they are not even available in a pool where literally everything in the game is available including brand new prototype stuff.
Does anyone have any insider info on why that is? Or any info on a full scale release date?
I don't like having to test a new group of 3 different Dash bots while I'm still not able to purchase the last set of bots. Pix milked it for enough events.
Is this the new normal? Will all new content be excluded from normal purchase and normal in-game currency?
It's starting to feel so gimmicky. What is the point of getting excited about a new set of bots when they won't be available for actual purchase for half a year or more?
The meta has changed so much since they were finalized that I am not sure they even fit into this new War Robots universe.
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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 18, 2017 3:42:37 GMT -5
It's a bit of a mystery but they may well turn up as Gold bots in the near future, with the Dash bots being the new event prizes.
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Post by ShutUpAndSmokeMyWeed on Mar 18, 2017 4:22:40 GMT -5
There was a teaser about it in the Reddit AMA. They said it wouldn't be for sale in Au,Ag or WSP but had something "special" planned for them.
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Post by Paps on Mar 18, 2017 4:25:30 GMT -5
An actual Thunderdome Combat to the death. Two men enter, one man leaves... with a set of the Gunslinger mechs.
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Post by tectonic on Mar 18, 2017 8:44:48 GMT -5
So much qq in one post! How did you manage it?
The first thing you have to understand is, is that pixonic is a business and they want to make money for themselves. What they did with the ww bunch is make an exclusive club. The more exclusive a club is, the more people are willing to pay to get into it. If you want to get into this club you have to buy in or get lucky with the event roulette wheel.
As for pix removing them from the test server, the ww bunch are already in the production server. No further testing is required. The test server is there so pix can collect data on ideas they have for new bots and weapons, not so you can take a bot you don't have out for a joyride. Again they are trying to maintain an exclusive club.
With no confirmed release date it sounds like you gambled and lost. Maybe next event they come out in you will be motivated to pony up some cash and buy one.
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Post by ᴛʜᴇ ʙɪɢ ᴅʀᴏᴘ on Mar 18, 2017 9:12:49 GMT -5
BEFORE the 'Wild Bunch' it was a personal goal of mine to have one of every weapon and Mek in War Robots.
For a verily brief moment as the Bunch were first made available, I won an Ancile in the Christmas event and succeeded in the weapon portion of my goal but do not forsee me ever acomplishing the Mek portion of the goal.
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Post by The VVatcher on Mar 18, 2017 9:17:57 GMT -5
I hope I'm wrong about this but I have a feeling we are not going to see new bots sold for gold or wsp anymore. The signs are kinda pointing to it.
We are probably gona see the wild bunch in other events as part of the pool. Any new things like the Dash bots will go in the event pool for us to win by gambling for them.
They knew how much au was farmed prior to the new mm. Enormous amount of their currency is out there. The new company probably saw that on their data so they brainstormed this "special" idea about events.
That's why I don't get excited with the new bots. I think they are designing au to be used exclusively for paint jobs and upgrading. Especially the latter as the league is designed to push leveling and moving up the leagues.
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Post by miscanthus on Mar 18, 2017 9:50:46 GMT -5
I hope I'm wrong about this but I have a feeling we are not going to see new bots sold for gold or wsp anymore. The signs are kinda pointing to it. We are probably gona see the wild bunch in other events as part of the pool. Any new things like the Dash bots will go in the event pool for us to win by gambling for them. They knew how much au was farmed prior to the new mm. Enormous amount of their currency is out there. The new company probably saw that on their data so they brainstormed this "special" idea about events. That's why I don't get excited with the new bots. I think they are designing au to be used exclusively for paint jobs and upgrading. Especially the latter as the league is designed to push leveling and moving up the leagues. I agree with your comments about gold. The event currencies are the future. Not too thrilled about it. |
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Mar 18, 2017 10:06:35 GMT -5
An actual Thunderdome Combat to the death. Two men enter, one man leaves... with a set of the Gunslinger mechs. Paps... Remember we were jus talking about death match play in Doom and Quake back in the day.... I even hosted a one on one Harpoon Arena tournament 20yrs ago... One on one... Round robin style. You fought... If you one, you waited til the next round of all winners to match up again. If you lost, you were out. Here's the link from Blue's News, the main Quake online web page for Quake, which somehow survived, advertising my event. (Scroll down til you find it) This is the golden age beginnings of online pvp play.... www.bluesnews.com/archives/nov98-1.html*For those to lazy to scroll down and find it... Buy I recommend you young'uns take some time and read the whole page. Get a feel for how FPS games and PVP used to be Attachment Deleted |
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Post by Pulse Hadron on Mar 18, 2017 10:34:01 GMT -5
Who knows what Pix is planning? Seriosly. Their cheeky remark they have something "special" planned, it could be anything. They like to experiment and it sounds like they'll try something new.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 18, 2017 10:53:20 GMT -5
So much qq in one post! How did you manage it? The first thing you have to understand is, is that pixonic is a business and they want to make money for themselves. What they did with the ww bunch is make an exclusive club. The more exclusive a club is, the more people are willing to pay to get into it. If you want to get into this club you have to buy in or get lucky with the event roulette wheel. As for pix removing them from the test server, the ww bunch are already in the production server. No further testing is required. The test server is there so pix can collect data on ideas they have for new bots and weapons, not so you can take a bot you don't have out for a joyride. Again they are trying to maintain an exclusive club. With no confirmed release date it sounds like you gambled and lost. Maybe next event they come out in you will be motivated to pony up some cash and buy one. F that, I forgot how much those bots calc'd out in dollars but it was ridiculous. They lucky if they get the price of a $60 console game for the entire game, let alone for just one bot. |
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Mar 18, 2017 11:05:11 GMT -5
So much qq in one post! How did you manage it? The first thing you have to understand is, is that pixonic is a business and they want to make money for themselves. What they did with the ww bunch is make an exclusive club. The more exclusive a club is, the more people are willing to pay to get into it. If you want to get into this club you have to buy in or get lucky with the event roulette wheel. As for pix removing them from the test server, the ww bunch are already in the production server. No further testing is required. The test server is there so pix can collect data on ideas they have for new bots and weapons, not so you can take a bot you don't have out for a joyride. Again they are trying to maintain an exclusive club. With no confirmed release date it sounds like you gambled and lost. Maybe next event they come out in you will be motivated to pony up some cash and buy one. F that, I forgot how much those bots calc'd out in dollars but it was ridiculous. They lucky if they get the price of a $60 console game for the entire game, let alone for just one bot. Well, somebody will pay for them, and probably a few more people if it becomes clear they aren't going to come out for general purchase. From a financial standpoint it makes sense - a few people paying $60 or whatever is better than everybody spending free in-game gold and silver from pixonic's standpoint. You'll likely see a middle ground - people saving event currency until the end of the event, then buying event currency to get the rest of the way to the purchase price. I believe that's why some of those bots cost more currency than anyone short of an 1800 cup player can earn in two weeks. |
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Post by mechtout on Mar 18, 2017 11:12:41 GMT -5
F that, I forgot how much those bots calc'd out in dollars but it was ridiculous. They lucky if they get the price of a $60 console game for the entire game, let alone for just one bot. Well, somebody will pay for them, and probably a few more people if it becomes clear they aren't going to come out for general purchase. From a financial standpoint it makes sense - a few people paying $60 or whatever is better than everybody spending free in-game gold and silver from pixonic's standpoint. You'll likely see a middle ground - people saving event currency until the end of the event, then buying event currency to get the rest of the way to the purchase price. I believe that's why some of those bots cost more currency than anyone short of an 1800 cup player can earn in two weeks. if my math is correct, a fury and lancelot calcs out to about $35, so not only are they creating exclusive currency, they've jacked up the price of top tier bots. if people don't pay the gouger prices, the prices will come down. |
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Post by The VVatcher on Mar 18, 2017 11:22:50 GMT -5
I think the Butch was $100. You are out your damn mind if you buy any game character (not even a full game) for that much. You better check your mind state. Go show someone in real life your phone screen and tell them what you are about to buy for 100. Their facial expression will tell you everything.
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Mar 18, 2017 11:24:36 GMT -5
Too bad the wild bunch are pretty useless to most otherwise unexperienced players.
IF they were excellent bots and IF pix chose to go down the "exclusivity" route, the game essentially turns into a hard P2W game. I'll know where those apps go next – Trash.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 18, 2017 11:26:22 GMT -5
Teaser Bots...Scarcity breeds obsession for possession.
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Post by boomsplat on Mar 18, 2017 11:35:35 GMT -5
Based on the wild bunch's performance and lukewarm reputation, I can't believe there is a big market for these bots unless they buff their health. Maybe the something special is to give them another ability beyond losing their weps....something like accelerating weapon reloads or a mount for an ancille.
Otherwise I can't see these bots being put on the market until they have a replacement "desirable" lineup of bots or weps to keep the cash coming in.
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Post by Dead Mechanism on Mar 18, 2017 18:24:09 GMT -5
So much qq in one post! How did you manage it? The first thing you have to understand is, is that pixonic is a business and they want to make money for themselves. What they did with the ww bunch is make an exclusive club. The more exclusive a club is, the more people are willing to pay to get into it. If you want to get into this club you have to buy in or get lucky with the event roulette wheel. As for pix removing them from the test server, the ww bunch are already in the production server. No further testing is required. The test server is there so pix can collect data on ideas they have for new bots and weapons, not so you can take a bot you don't have out for a joyride. Again they are trying to maintain an exclusive club. With no confirmed release date it sounds like you gambled and lost. Maybe next event they come out in you will be motivated to pony up some cash and buy one. hey, it's the guy who goes around on the internet being "that guy." I don't know what qq is, but you don't make any sense. The wild bunch is on the live server so there's no reason to test them? I guess there's no reason to have Gareth, Lancelot, Gallahad or any other bots that are on the live server on the test server, either? Hey, they're live. No need to test. Pix is a company that makes money. They always have. No one is complaining about AU costing money, and silver and paying for Premium and even paying for coins during special events (get up into the 10s and 11s in bot and weapons and see how fast you'll need to start buying either Premium or Sliver, which nearly everyone in my clan has spent real money on the game at some point). Pix makes money. Defending gimmicky cash grabs as "just doing business" is pretty gross. "No confirmed release date, sounds like you gambled and lost." ...what? Are you implying they are running Vegas Odds on "WHEN THE WILD BUNCH WILL BE RELEASED" and I gambled on it and lost? Next time, when someone asks a question like "do you have any info on a release date" and you don't have any info, maybe don't jam your unwelcomed opinions in anyway. |
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Post by Dead Mechanism on Mar 18, 2017 18:37:51 GMT -5
The something "special" sounds like they plan on having more events and being available only then.
The problem is, last few times i tried them on the Test, I ended up replacing them after a few games. The Doc could be viable in theory, but hasn't been in practice. Making something inferior but hard to attain doesn't necessarily create artificial demand. At the most, it creates artificial interest. In fact, I don't know a single person who has shelled out the crazy money to buy them outright during events. Every person I know who owns one won it via chests. And none of them use them much.
Have any of you spent the money to buy one? I am willing to bet the amount of people who actually purchased them is pretty low.
Maybe they dropped them from the Test Server so people won't be able to test how poorly they fare before the next event.
I wonder if them being recently dropped is an indication a new event is around the corner.
Does anyone have any info on upcoming events?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 18:46:56 GMT -5
There was a teaser about it in the Reddit AMA. They said it wouldn't be for sale in Au,Ag or WSP but had something "special" planned for them. Process of elimination pretty much leaves cash, bought with theme currency, or won at a theme event. |
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Post by tectonic on Mar 19, 2017 9:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by Dead Mechanism on Mar 19, 2017 11:23:53 GMT -5
I'd still love to hear anyone chime-in who actually spent the money to buy one of these bots.
I really do think very very few people did so.
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Post by Paps on Mar 19, 2017 12:48:04 GMT -5
I'll give it a whirl...
Does spending 60 bucks on extra spins during the lunar event count? I got lucky as... a really lucky person, and won a whole set. One of each of the Gunslingers. Buncha other shiny new toys, as well. Didn't pay outright for them though, the prices were too dang high!
Kenny Rogers an me, we both know about gamblin'.
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Post by hurtbot on Mar 19, 2017 13:14:57 GMT -5
I'll give it a whirl... Does spending 60 bucks on extra spins during the lunar event count? I got lucky as... a really lucky person, and won a whole set. One of each of the Gunslingers. Buncha other shiny new toys, as well. Didn't pay outright for them though, the prices were too dang high! Kenny Rogers an me, we both know about gamblin'. I own a Jesse and I've seen Butches in battle and seen comments from their pilots, but haven't seen much on Doc. What do you think of him? |
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Post by Paps on Mar 19, 2017 16:15:44 GMT -5
hurtbotHonestly, pretty fast and agile. Decent hp, but not fantastic. Tulumbas is a solid choice. Orkans I tried, but everyone guns for you. And most recently hydras because Dredd77 piqued my curiousity about it as a decent setup. My hydras are only at level 8, so not great. But not terrible. Plan on using Doc more further down the road. Edit: Mister Dredd is also much more eloquent than me. Might have some better insights, hence the tag.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 19, 2017 16:40:26 GMT -5
I think the Butch was $100. You are out your damn mind if you buy any game character (not even a full game) for that much. You better check your mind state. Go show someone in real life your phone screen and tell them what you are about to buy for 100. Their facial expression will tell you everything. A competitive Magic: the Gathering deck will set you back between $300 and $5000, depending on your preferred format. A solid board game will cost you somewhere between $30 and $90. As a former game and comic store owner, I'd often discuss with customers the idea of value for money. And ultimately, it comes down to two things. Time Enjoyment In essence, it helps to distill an "entertainment rate." How many hours of entertainment are you getting for your purchase? If I go to the movies with my wife, it's $20-40 for two hours, depending on what we get. And if the movie's good, we never second-guess the decision. A $100 bot might seem ridiculous to some- and that's their call- but a game like this can give you huge entertainment value for money if you're not chasing every bot and rushing every upgrade. I spent $50 for the Doc and the Jesse. And if you look at the hours I've rocked them both, it's way cheaper than a movie on a per-hour basis. This is, by the way, the same metric I used to recommend people play Role-Playing Games. The $/hr rate is super-low. If you don't want to spend that kind of money on your entertainment, that's perfectly fine! It's your call, and we all have to make that call based on our own situations. But to run down people for being "out of their damn mind" for that sort of purchase, well, you've got a long, long list of people to slag when you're done. Let's start with anyone paying to go to Disneyland.  |
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 19, 2017 16:42:22 GMT -5
As for the Wild Bunch, my prediction is that each new Expansion will send the previous one down to general availability. So the Dash Bot series will be the next Event bot, which means the Wild Bunch will then be available for regular currency. My guess is Gold, because that still allows Pix to make some money on the transaction. As for the bots themselves, I love my Doc. Here's my guide to playing the Hydra Doc build: geparddiary.com/2017/02/22/dreddguide-1-the-hydra-doc/ |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 19, 2017 16:52:36 GMT -5
I think the Butch was $100. You are out your damn mind if you buy any game character (not even a full game) for that much. You better check your mind state. Go show someone in real life your phone screen and tell them what you are about to buy for 100. Their facial expression will tell you everything. A competitive Magic: the Gathering deck will set you back between $300 and $5000, depending on your preferred format. A solid board game will cost you somewhere between $30 and $90. As a former game and comic store owner, I'd often discuss with customers the idea of value for money. And ultimately, it comes down to two things. Time Enjoyment In essence, it helps to distill an "entertainment rate." How many hours of entertainment are you getting for your purchase? If I go to the movies with my wife, it's $20-40 for two hours, depending on what we get. And if the movie's good, we never second-guess the decision. A $100 bot might seem ridiculous to some- and that's their call- but a game like this can give you huge entertainment value for money if you're not chasing every bot and rushing every upgrade. I spent $50 for the Doc and the Jesse. And if you look at the hours I've rocked them both, it's way cheaper than a movie on a per-hour basis. This is, by the way, the same metric I used to recommend people play Role-Playing Games. The $/hr rate is super-low. If you don't want to spend that kind of money on your entertainment, that's perfectly fine! It's your call, and we all have to make that call based on our own situations. But to run down people for being "out of their damn mind" for that sort of purchase, well, you've got a long, long list of people to slag when you're done. Let's start with anyone paying to go to Disneyland. A good post, but it be better to think about it as Value Vs Replacement. Is that hydra Doc worth $60 more to you than a hydra Fujin or Hydra Spiral Griff it probably replaced? Does it perform better than a TT Fury that can be purchased for $50 or a DB Griff that costs $30 to buy outright? I agree it's a personal decision, but not as simple as time/cost. |
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 19, 2017 17:10:25 GMT -5
A competitive Magic: the Gathering deck will set you back between $300 and $5000, depending on your preferred format. A solid board game will cost you somewhere between $30 and $90. As a former game and comic store owner, I'd often discuss with customers the idea of value for money. And ultimately, it comes down to two things. Time Enjoyment In essence, it helps to distill an "entertainment rate." How many hours of entertainment are you getting for your purchase? If I go to the movies with my wife, it's $20-40 for two hours, depending on what we get. And if the movie's good, we never second-guess the decision. A $100 bot might seem ridiculous to some- and that's their call- but a game like this can give you huge entertainment value for money if you're not chasing every bot and rushing every upgrade. I spent $50 for the Doc and the Jesse. And if you look at the hours I've rocked them both, it's way cheaper than a movie on a per-hour basis. This is, by the way, the same metric I used to recommend people play Role-Playing Games. The $/hr rate is super-low. If you don't want to spend that kind of money on your entertainment, that's perfectly fine! It's your call, and we all have to make that call based on our own situations. But to run down people for being "out of their damn mind" for that sort of purchase, well, you've got a long, long list of people to slag when you're done. Let's start with anyone paying to go to Disneyland. A good post, but it be better to think about it as Value Vs Replacement. Is that hydra Doc worth $60 more to you than a hydra Fujin or Hydra Spiral Griff it probably replaced? Does it perform better than a TT Fury that can be purchased for $50 or a DB Griff that costs $30 to buy outright? I agree it's a personal decision, but not as simple as time/cost. I disagree, I think it's exactly as simple as that. Mostly. I mean, we've all been there, right? You drop some cash on a movie and it's complete crap. I think I've walked out of two movies in my life. One was The English Patient (which, at my age now, is probably pretty damn good), and Blast from the Past (which, despite Christopher Walken, will never be good at any age). Entertainment dollars have an inherent risk. Who here hasn'y bought an album before and discovered, to their dismay, most of the songs suck. War Robots is discretinary entertainment money, period, and must be looked at as such. |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 19, 2017 17:12:16 GMT -5
A good post, but it be better to think about it as Value Vs Replacement. Is that hydra Doc worth $60 more to you than a hydra Fujin or Hydra Spiral Griff it probably replaced? Does it perform better than a TT Fury that can be purchased for $50 or a DB Griff that costs $30 to buy outright? I agree it's a personal decision, but not as simple as time/cost. I disagree, I think it's exactly as simple as that. Mostly. I mean, we've all been there, right? You drop some cash on a movie and it's complete crap. I think I've walked out of two movies in my life. One was The English Patient (which, at my age now, is probably pretty damn good), and Blast from the Past (which, despite Christopher Walken, will never be good at any age). Entertainment dollars have an inherent risk. Who here hasn'y bought an album before and discovered, to their dismay, most of the songs suck. War Robots is discretinary entertainment money, period, and must be looked at as such. Ok then, we disagree.  |
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