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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 18, 2020 21:44:26 GMT -5
Hey Yo Pix,
Suppression gets 0 HP, but when used effectively, it can be critical to secure a victory, e.g. suppressing that lvl 150 maxed Ao Ming. How about HP for the prevented damage?
That lil troll, Loki, frequently forces a Red to ditch a perfectly good bot in order to protect a threatened beacon. How about kill credit (or at least half a kill) for the ditched bots.
Triggering Last Stand should also be worth 1/2 a kill.
Let’s give credit where credit is due.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2020 22:00:20 GMT -5
What can be said? There are many factors, things that go down in battle that this game does not consider honor worthy....perhaps the source of this attitude answers the question as to why this is?
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Post by S1E1 on Jan 18, 2020 23:33:27 GMT -5
Not sure I agree on the ditched bot thing. Seems like Loki gets credit for beacons (also how would they figure that out). But Suppression and Last Stand triggering are good points! Also, maybe turning a beacon white should get a little something.
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Post by mechtout on Jan 18, 2020 23:38:02 GMT -5
I remember the good ol days when it was just beacons, kills, and damage.
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Post by The VVatcher on Jan 19, 2020 0:08:07 GMT -5
2nd one is kinda tricky. Why just Loki? Any bot can induce a ditch if they are stealing home beacon
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Post by hkang on Jan 19, 2020 0:18:36 GMT -5
Hey Yo Pix, Suppression gets 0 HP, but when used effectively, it can be critical to secure a victory, e.g. suppressing that lvl 150 maxed Ao Ming. How about HP for the prevented damage? That lil troll, Loki, frequently forces a Red to ditch a perfectly good bot in order to protect a threatened beacon. How about kill credit (or at least half a kill) for the ditched bots. Triggering Last Stand should also be worth 1/2 a kill. Let’s give credit where credit is due. Giving credits for ditching bots would be a perfect way of rewarding the tankers. They ditch their bots one by one, and gain credits for not helping the teammates at all.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 19, 2020 2:13:38 GMT -5
Suppression honor, agreed.
Ejecting honor, big no to dat.
Triggering Last Stand honor, naaa.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 19, 2020 6:16:35 GMT -5
2nd one is kinda tricky. Why just Loki? Any bot can induce a ditch if they are stealing home beacon Absolutely not just Loki. Good point. I mentioned Loki because, when I run it, I often trigger more ditched bots than actual beacons caps.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 19, 2020 6:17:56 GMT -5
Not sure I agree on the ditched bot thing. Seems like Loki gets credit for beacons (also how would they figure that out). But Suppression and Last Stand triggering are good points! Also, maybe turning a beacon white should get a little something. Actually, half a beacon credit for liberating the beacon would work too.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 19, 2020 6:19:48 GMT -5
Hey Yo Pix, Suppression gets 0 HP, but when used effectively, it can be critical to secure a victory, e.g. suppressing that lvl 150 maxed Ao Ming. How about HP for the prevented damage? That lil troll, Loki, frequently forces a Red to ditch a perfectly good bot in order to protect a threatened beacon. How about kill credit (or at least half a kill) for the ditched bots. Triggering Last Stand should also be worth 1/2 a kill. Let’s give credit where credit is due. Giving credits for ditching bots would be a perfect way of rewarding the tankers. They ditch their bots one by one, and gain credits for not helping the teammates at all. Not credit for ditching a bot, credit for forcing a red to ditch.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 19, 2020 6:23:33 GMT -5
Suppression honor, agreed. Ejecting honor, big no to dat. Triggering Last Stand honor, naaa. Awww, come on man, hitting Last Stand is at least half the battle, ? But I will note that Pix did good by giving credit for Shield(s) damage. That was one of my pet peeves for a long time. You spend forever to pound down that Ancilot and someone else kill steals him from ya. Booo.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 8:11:26 GMT -5
That's all included in the 50% silver bonus for winning tho
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Post by biancabashbots on Jan 19, 2020 14:20:17 GMT -5
Hey Yo Pix, Suppression gets 0 HP, but when used effectively, it can be critical to secure a victory, e.g. suppressing that lvl 150 maxed Ao Ming. How about HP for the prevented damage? That lil troll, Loki, frequently forces a Red to ditch a perfectly good bot in order to protect a threatened beacon. How about kill credit (or at least half a kill) for the ditched bots. Triggering Last Stand should also be worth 1/2 a kill. Let’s give credit where credit is due. Giving credits for ditching bots would be a perfect way of rewarding the tankers. They ditch their bots one by one, and gain credits for not helping the teammates at all. If I understand it correctly, the tankers wouldn't be the ones getting the credit for their own ditching- someone on opposing team would.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Jan 19, 2020 14:58:40 GMT -5
How on EARTH would you ever account for any of this?
Be glad you are helping to win.
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Post by bayscout on Jan 19, 2020 17:10:13 GMT -5
Not sure I agree on the ditched bot thing. Seems like Loki gets credit for beacons (also how would they figure that out). But Suppression and Last Stand triggering are good points! Also, maybe turning a beacon white should get a little something. Actually, half a beacon credit for liberating the beacon would work too. This!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2020 18:04:02 GMT -5
They need to give more. Still heavily weighted for top dmg and kill stealing.
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Post by tectonic on Jan 19, 2020 18:59:21 GMT -5
I feel that some honor points should be awarded if you are able to defend a contested beacon. Like if a beacon is blue already and you and a red are duking it out inside it’s radius, you should gain some HP while the red player is present. Another thing that I feel we should get HP for is the longevity of your bots. There has been many times where I’ve been holding a key position, not turning a beacon, not really getting much damage, but my presence is enough to deter any red from approaching. (Under the center ramp on the enemies side of Yamantau is a great spot for this)
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Post by hkang on Jan 19, 2020 20:11:08 GMT -5
Lol my bad for posting irrelevant one, should've read rollo's thread carefully
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