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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Jan 11, 2020 12:16:45 GMT -5
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good Dual Heavy platform? Following my self-imposed rule of no more than 1 of the same robot (special editions of the same robot are the only exception), my Weyland and Raijin are already paired with ideal weapons (Redeemers or Dragoons/Vipers) depending on range. I plan to take Bulwark off Jun hunting duty and replace him with Guang, as the DR is a much better bet against Avenger Juns where the massive Aegis hitbox and the 2x bullet vulnerability are always in play. In the meantime, I hope to get a good deal on 2 Embers (I should not have sold mine in my selling rush, man) or grind them out in the Workshop. The Scourges and pilot will transfer right over, making leveling the robot the cheapest way to do it. Now, the problem is that I have no unique Heavy platforms to mount the Calamities to, as I have no good robots remaining:  All joking aside, I have spare Vipers, and Calamities from Bulwark. I'm toying with dusting one off and using it exclusively for bird hunting because building Guang in the Workshop is an expensive proposition, not to mention I'm 90% sure the Offers won't give you deals on a whole robot/weapon if you're producing components for it. I dunno, I don't want to invest in a meta robot. But until I get Guang, Bulwark can't handle maxed Avenger Juns with Last Stand (also maxed). We all know that no Juns carry Quantum Radar as the big dog has no reason to look up, and they usually carry a smattering of Shieldbreaker or Lockdown Ammo. I'm preder to turn one of them into a Guang, but I've got Juns. DR or stealth/speed? |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Jan 11, 2020 12:44:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 14:20:32 GMT -5
Calamity Spark Natty
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 14:29:03 GMT -5
Tasha doesn’t survive long in Masters/Champion leagues. I haven’t seen one in weeks/months...literally. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 14:31:42 GMT -5
Tasha doesn’t survive long in Masters/Champion leagues. I haven’t seen one in weeks/months...literally. It takes a special player to roll a special bot.... Just sayin..... |
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Post by foxypotato on Jan 11, 2020 14:43:32 GMT -5
Natty are pretty squishy but are dirt cheap to level and especially so if OE. The two lights and the two heavy weapon slots mean the bot packs a punch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 14:56:20 GMT -5
Natty are pretty squishy but are dirt cheap to level and especially so if OE. The two lights and the two heavy weapon slots mean the bot packs a punch. True, but squishy is the operative word in your statement. Not to mention with all the dookie Phantoms, Blitzs, Pursuers running around, it’s way too simple to slip under the guns...not to mention too slow to avoid Jun burping on ya |
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Post by reconnecting on Jan 11, 2020 15:15:33 GMT -5
Calamite Carnage? With Fortifier for shield boost.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 16:24:11 GMT -5
You already have all the 2 Heavy bots I like and would have mentioned.
Some alternatives include Behemoth (2 heavies when mobile, 4 when stationary), Falcon (1 / 3 in fangs out), Fury (3) and Butch (2/2).
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Post by mystic spastic on Jan 11, 2020 16:39:04 GMT -5
I was going to recommend another Ao Jun to hunt Ao Jun's, but see you already have two.
Personally, I'd think the Bulwark would be the best of the what's left when it came to mounting just two heavies. But as @stardustrial said, there is the Falcon. Maybe go Viper as its primary and Calamities for the fangs? Tickle reds at a distance, then fry their butts up close with the Tesla weapons.
As for AJs not packing Quantum Radar - perhaps you're correct in general. But at present that's what I run on my Avenger Ao Jun, as it seems that other AoJuns are a problem that needs solving more than Ares. When Pixonic offers the Damage Mitigation active module (you know it's going to happen) then I'll load that up to hunt Leeches. But for now, it's other flying dragons that are the target of choice for my Ao Jun.
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Post by _FakeNews_ on Jan 11, 2020 16:40:19 GMT -5
The behemoth calls to you my child. Heed its call and accept its hidden OPness of four freaking heavy weapons.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 16:49:06 GMT -5
I was going to recommend another Ao Jun to hunt Ao Jun's, but see you already have two.
Personally, I'd think the Bulwark would be the best of the what's left when it came to mounting just two heavies. But as @stardustrial said, there is the Falcon. Maybe go Viper as its primary and Calamities for the fangs? Tickle reds at a distance, then fry their butts up close with the Tesla weapons.
As for AJs not packing Quantum Radar - perhaps you're correct in general. But at present that's what I run on my Avenger Ao Jun, as it seems that other AoJuns are a problem that needs solving more than Ares. When Pixonic offers the Damage Mitigation active module (you know it's going to happen) then I'll load that up to hunt Leeches. But for now, it's other flying dragons that are the target of choice for my Ao Jun.
I agree. The normal Falcon is a fine bot, it works really well with three Avengers for Titan hunting, do you have any? Otherwise, a Viper with Calamities for Fangs/Talons Out would probably work nicely, you could do that pesky lock on in your cooldown. |
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Post by Eradicator1 on Jan 11, 2020 16:51:46 GMT -5
Say it isn’t so. You can’t retire bulwark.
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Jan 11, 2020 18:41:49 GMT -5
Say it isn’t so. You can’t retire bulwark. Oh no, it's not being retired. I'm refitting it to use Embers instead, as Bulwark has a TON of good shield/HP skills. There's too much wasted potential as a Jun hunter; instead, I plan to have Mwangi use continuous Lockdown Ammo every 15 seconds on Embers to bolt foes to the ground. My only problem is I sold my Embers in desperation some time ago; and building them from scratch would take an eternity. I'm considering attaching Avengers instead, but I can feel the nerf bat inching ever closer to them with Ao Jun overrepresenting them by a huge margin. Besides, for the full potential you need Speed/Sharpshooter. |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Jan 11, 2020 18:47:06 GMT -5
The behemoth calls to you my child. Heed its call and accept its hidden OPness of four freaking heavy weapons. I would take a Raijin over Behemoth any day. It has the durability of tissue paper, with no shielding or DR, both of which Raijin has or can acquire through the Pilot. Additionally, Raijin has a 30% damage boost to both Heavies. With Fury having 300% damage (100%=1 Heavy), Raijin with Death Mark adds an extra 20% to the 130% when stationary. That's Fury level firepower. Toss on Thermonuke and Mr. Chong with Master Gunsmith for an extra 22% on top. Only reason why I'm not using it for Jun hunting is that it's shield is still weak to bullets. |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Jan 11, 2020 18:52:49 GMT -5
With no escape abilities, I'd have to use my nodule slot for any hope of victory. Because that's locked to Quantum Radar for Jun hunting, a well placed Jun or any fast robot could easily assassinate Tasha. She has a special spot in my heart, but her time has passed. |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Jan 11, 2020 18:54:08 GMT -5
Calamite Carnage? With Fortifier for shield boost. Carnage is eggshell fragile. Even if a Jun did use a weapon that wouldn't ignore the Ancile, the health of both is so low it would be wiped out instantly. |
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Post by Eradicator1 on Jan 11, 2020 18:58:35 GMT -5
Say it isn’t so. You can’t retire bulwark. Oh no, it's not being retired. I'm refitting it to use Embers instead, as Bulwark has a TON of good shield/HP skills. There's too much wasted potential as a Jun hunter; instead, I plan to have Mwangi use continuous Lockdown Ammo every 15 seconds on Embers to bolt foes to the ground. My only problem is I sold my Embers in desperation some time ago; and building them from scratch would take an eternity. I'm considering attaching Avengers instead, but I can feel the nerf bat inching ever closer to them with Ao Jun overrepresenting them by a huge margin. Besides, for the full potential you need Speed/Sharpshooter. OK cool. I misunderstood you. I love bully. I use Quantum Radar and glaciers to shoot unsuspecting Juns out of the air. ? |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jan 11, 2020 19:04:11 GMT -5
The behemoth calls to you my child. Heed its call and accept its hidden OPness of four freaking heavy weapons. I would take a Raijin over Behemoth any day. It has the durability of tissue paper, with no shielding or DR, both of which Raijin has or can acquire through the Pilot. Additionally, Raijin has a 30% damage boost to both Heavies. With Fury having 300% damage (100%=1 Heavy), Raijin with Death Mark adds an extra 20% to the 130% when stationary. That's Fury level firepower. Toss on Thermonuke and Mr. Chong with Master Gunsmith for an extra 22% on top. Only reason why I'm not using it for Jun hunting is that it's shield is still weak to bullets. ^^^^ Yup, Behemoth is great on looooong maps. Otherwise, lots of bots can end them. My strider has made many a Behemoth pilot cry like a plaid-wearing schoolboy. |
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Post by _FakeNews_ on Jan 11, 2020 19:08:42 GMT -5
The behemoth calls to you my child. Heed its call and accept its hidden OPness of four freaking heavy weapons. I would take a Raijin over Behemoth any day. It has the durability of tissue paper, with no shielding or DR, both of which Raijin has or can acquire through the Pilot. Additionally, Raijin has a 30% damage boost to both Heavies. With Fury having 300% damage (100%=1 Heavy), Raijin with Death Mark adds an extra 20% to the 130% when stationary. That's Fury level firepower. Toss on Thermonuke and Mr. Chong with Master Gunsmith for an extra 22% on top. Only reason why I'm not using it for Jun hunting is that it's shield is still weak to bullets. Who needs HP when you can kill your enemies I a few hits? I feel like the behemoth would be a lot better if it could use all four weapons while walking. Or they gave it a nice chunk of Damage resistance while it was in siege mode. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2020 19:40:55 GMT -5
Oh no, it's not being retired. I'm refitting it to use Embers instead, as Bulwark has a TON of good shield/HP skills. There's too much wasted potential as a Jun hunter; instead, I plan to have Mwangi use continuous Lockdown Ammo every 15 seconds on Embers to bolt foes to the ground. My only problem is I sold my Embers in desperation some time ago; and building them from scratch would take an eternity. I'm considering attaching Avengers instead, but I can feel the nerf bat inching ever closer to them with Ao Jun overrepresenting them by a huge margin. Besides, for the full potential you need Speed/Sharpshooter. OK cool. I misunderstood you. I love bully. I use Quantum Radar and glaciers to shoot unsuspecting Juns out of the air. ? Viper Bully with 3 fortifiers.....just say Yes!  |
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Post by reconnecting on Jan 11, 2020 19:53:16 GMT -5
Calamite Carnage? With Fortifier for shield boost. Carnage is eggshell fragile. Even if a Jun did use a weapon that wouldn't ignore the Ancile, the health of both is so low it would be wiped out instantly. I posted that with tongue slightly in cheek. But it could work for the right player. Carnage is pretty fast and a moderately skilled player will watch out for threats like Ao Jun. And either PS or Quantum Radar will help, as Will the passive modules for health etc. Carnage could be an effective mid ranger for a player with few other choices. Not everyone is level 30 or meta inclined. |
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Post by milty72 on Jan 11, 2020 23:08:47 GMT -5
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Post by milty72 on Jan 11, 2020 23:21:48 GMT -5
I'm enjoying my Butch but it's probably not the best with Calamities.
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Post by scrmngeagle325 on Jan 11, 2020 23:59:12 GMT -5
Tasha doesn’t survive long in Masters/Champion leagues. I haven’t seen one in weeks/months...literally. It’s not a bad bot if you like legacy. I run a legacy hanger every other season with a calamity/spark Natty. With Quantum Radar, it’s my Ao Jun killer. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 0:01:22 GMT -5
I'm currently toting a Last Stand Glacier Behemoth around for the sheer fun of it. Slow moving, slow turning, 300m range limit knife fighter with a massive bulky frame that is completely immobile in siege mode, and very vulnerable to all the hotted up bots with their MK2 weapons flying around... But I'm finding it the most fun bot in my hangar atm. The Last Stand usually assures me kills no matter the odds. Splash weapons can still hit all the tiny bots (Phantoms, Blitzes, Striders) that nose dive it It may be a glass cannon, but it's a true Death Button. (I'm currently wanting to level it to the point where it can reliably one-hit-knockout Arthurs, Kids and T-Falcons.) |
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Post by S1E1 on Jan 12, 2020 0:50:15 GMT -5
What about replacing the Vipers on one of your Juns with the Calamities? I haven't tried it myself but it seems like more players are using that with Quantum Radar to hunt other Ao Juns. Could be worth experimenting with a little.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2020 1:53:04 GMT -5
With no escape abilities, I'd have to use my nodule slot for any hope of victory. Because that's locked to Quantum Radar for Jun hunting, a well placed Jun or any fast robot could easily assassinate Tasha. She has a special spot in my heart, but her time has passed. In the distance, bagpipes are playing, as Scottish girls and women dance while singing a dirge. |
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Post by linearblade on Jan 12, 2020 3:39:32 GMT -5
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good Dual Heavy platform? Following my self-imposed rule of no more than 1 of the same robot (special editions of the same robot are the only exception), my Weyland and Raijin are already paired with ideal weapons (Redeemers or Dragoons/Vipers) depending on range. I plan to take Bulwark off Jun hunting duty and replace him with Guang, as the DR is a much better bet against Avenger Juns where the massive Aegis hitbox and the 2x bullet vulnerability are always in play. In the meantime, I hope to get a good deal on 2 Embers (I should not have sold mine in my selling rush, man) or grind them out in the Workshop. The Scourges and pilot will transfer right over, making leveling the robot the cheapest way to do it. Now, the problem is that I have no unique Heavy platforms to mount the Calamities to, as I have no good robots remaining: All joking aside, I have spare Vipers, and Calamities from Bulwark. I'm toying with dusting one off and using it exclusively for bird hunting because building Guang in the Workshop is an expensive proposition, not to mention I'm 90% sure the Offers won't give you deals on a whole robot/weapon if you're producing components for it. I dunno, I don't want to invest in a meta robot. But until I get Guang, Bulwark can't handle maxed Avenger Juns with Last Stand (also maxed). We all know that no Juns carry Quantum Radar as the big dog has no reason to look up, and they usually carry a smattering of Shieldbreaker or Lockdown Ammo. I'm preder to turn one of them into a Guang, but I've got Juns. DR or stealth/speed? Your hanger is looking awesome already. I guess you could slap a carnage in there for good measure, maybe that that dare devil skill and go balls to the wall. |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Jan 12, 2020 12:10:39 GMT -5
Does anyone have any suggestions for a good Dual Heavy platform? Following my self-imposed rule of no more than 1 of the same robot (special editions of the same robot are the only exception), my Weyland and Raijin are already paired with ideal weapons (Redeemers or Dragoons/Vipers) depending on range. I plan to take Bulwark off Jun hunting duty and replace him with Guang, as the DR is a much better bet against Avenger Juns where the massive Aegis hitbox and the 2x bullet vulnerability are always in play. In the meantime, I hope to get a good deal on 2 Embers (I should not have sold mine in my selling rush, man) or grind them out in the Workshop. The Scourges and pilot will transfer right over, making leveling the robot the cheapest way to do it. Now, the problem is that I have no unique Heavy platforms to mount the Calamities to, as I have no good robots remaining: All joking aside, I have spare Vipers, and Calamities from Bulwark. I'm toying with dusting one off and using it exclusively for bird hunting because building Guang in the Workshop is an expensive proposition, not to mention I'm 90% sure the Offers won't give you deals on a whole robot/weapon if you're producing components for it. I dunno, I don't want to invest in a meta robot. But until I get Guang, Bulwark can't handle maxed Avenger Juns with Last Stand (also maxed). We all know that no Juns carry Quantum Radar as the big dog has no reason to look up, and they usually carry a smattering of Shieldbreaker or Lockdown Ammo. I'm preder to turn one of them into a Guang, but I've got Juns. DR or stealth/speed? Your hanger is looking awesome already. I guess you could slap a carnage in there for good measure, maybe that that dare devil skill and go balls to the wall. That's not my primary hangar. This is:  |
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