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Post by raidenii on Jan 4, 2020 19:39:43 GMT -5
Will donate some money. Was there a few months back in Sep, while flying from Gold Coast to Sydney, already saw some bush fires. Was at Byron Bay too...also covered by white smoke.
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 4, 2020 20:12:10 GMT -5
Didnt you know? Nobody told ya? Donald Trump said its all just a chinese hoax, so everything is really fine. *whew* glad we settled that one. Raven, we don’t do politics in this forum. Your joke is insensitive to others here who may hold different political views than you and who don’t appreciate the joke, and it is not sensitive to the dreadful situation that’s unfolded in Au. An apology would be the appropriate response here, and thinking things thru in future before posting something like this. Thx
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 20:18:02 GMT -5
Didnt you know? Nobody told ya? Donald Trump said its all just a chinese hoax, so everything is really fine. *whew* glad we settled that one. Raven, we don’t do politics in this forum. Your joke is insensitive to others here who may hold different political views than you and who don’t appreciate the joke, and it is not sensitive to the dreadful situation that’s unfolded in Au. An apology would be the appropriate response here, and thinking things thru in future before posting something like this. Thx um yeah i guess i was typing out my response while you got this off before me
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Post by ѻﻭɼﻉ on Jan 4, 2020 21:13:46 GMT -5
Raven, we donâ??t do politics in this forum. Your joke is insensitive to others here who may hold different political views than you and who donâ??t appreciate the joke, and it is not sensitive to the dreadful situation thatâ??s unfolded in Au. An apology would be the appropriate response here, and thinking things thru in future before posting something like this. Thx How is that even political? It was a comment about a dumb?fluffernutter? lying out of his ?bum-bum? about reality. If that offends anyone then maybe they should examine their ideals. Blindly following a moron and ignoring his shortcomings does not grant someone a safe-space. Go ahead and ban me if you must, that coward should be called out. Just drop it. We do not do politics or insult political figures in this forum.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 22:32:24 GMT -5
So sorry man, you and your family be safe out there.
I lived in CA for 7 years and the same thing. It is only going to continue to get worse.
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Post by SuperHero on Jan 5, 2020 1:49:41 GMT -5
I have deleted any posts of a political nature from this thread. My definition is any mention of any political figure and any support/attack for that said person. Go ahead and talk about scientific facts, but leave partisanship and personal agendas off this thread.
This thread was created by a well meaning individual to raise awareness and support for a country suffering. Let it remain that way.
Technically it's posted in the wrong section as well but I find it crass and demeaning to move it to "Off Topic".
So I have moved it to News and Announcements. People are suffering folks, this isn't the time to push stands, opinions or draw party lines. Love and support, that's all that needs to be done right now.
Peace
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Post by maverick on Jan 5, 2020 2:38:07 GMT -5
Take care of each other guys, together you can fight the fire That's the problem we can't fight them without rain. Thank you for all your good wishes and anyone that donates to any of the many charities or even buys Aussie products. Every bit helps.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 6:54:09 GMT -5
I have deleted any posts of a political nature from this thread. My definition is any mention of any political figure and any support/attack for that said person. Go ahead and talk about scientific facts, but leave partisanship and personal agendas off this thread. This thread was created by a well meaning individual to raise awareness and support for a country suffering. Let it remain that way. Technically it's posted in the wrong section as well but I find it crass and demeaning to move it to "Off Topic". So I have moved it to News and Announcements. People are suffering folks, this isn't the time to push stands, opinions or draw party lines. Love and support, that's all that needs to be done right now. Peace So you deleted the one where I explained why I posted what i did. but left these others up so everyone could think that I was just being foul. Yeah thanks for being objective and fair mr. moderator.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 7:13:35 GMT -5
Things like this piss me off. Not because it’s happening, but at how badly run the uk is. Our foreign aid budget is enormous, and we send it to countries like India - they have a space programme, ffs. Or China - second biggest military in the world, possibly the biggest. Yet for Australia, commonwealth, ally, we probably send tuppence by comparison. If you’re from the UK, message your mp. I understand your sentiments, but your data isn't right. We don't send any aid to India any more, and it was falling until it stopped in 2018. We haven't given bilateral (monetary) aid to China since 2011. The Department for International Development has an excellent website if you're interested.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 7:28:06 GMT -5
Didnt you know? Nobody told ya? Donald Trump said its all just a chinese hoax, so everything is really fine. *whew* glad we settled that one. Uncalled for, unnecessary and unappreciated. Just replying to this one again since our objective moderator thought it was fair to leave it. I wasnt making a joke out of trying to be funny. I had a moment of exasperation. Reading your post just brought me back. Worrying about dying in flames I was attempting to drive my family through. To make it to safety and be greeted by that on a television set. The sight of others really taking this in... with smoke still in the air. Just blows my mind even now. Only my outburst asking if the suggestion was that i just drove through a chinese hoax seemed to snap the hypnosis. I did say sorry but the moderator felt it prudent to delete that part without mentioning it. Above all else and in all seriousness Please dont forget to stay hydrated.
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Post by runamok on Jan 5, 2020 7:39:37 GMT -5
Things like this piss me off. Not because it’s happening, but at how badly run the uk is. Our foreign aid budget is enormous, and we send it to countries like India - they have a space programme, ffs. Or China - second biggest military in the world, possibly the biggest. Yet for Australia, commonwealth, ally, we probably send tuppence by comparison. If you’re from the UK, message your mp. I understand your sentiments, but your data isn't right. We don't send any aid to India any more, and it was falling until it stopped in 2018. We haven't given bilateral (monetary) aid to China since 2011. The Department for International Development has an excellent website if you're interested. While the funds to India may have stopped, we were sending them aid while they were ramping up their space programme. In 2008 the were sending up satellites, which the uk, in essence, paid for. As to China, as recently as 2017 under the Prosperity Fund, the UK was going to send aid for China’s elderly, until one watchdog pointed out how ridiculous it was to be sending aid to a country with a bigger economy than our own. while foreign aid, currently, is being sent to countries in need, the total amount is more than is spent on the UK’s police forces. As it is, I’d rather the money went more into disaster relief than the hands of some corrupt official in whichever country it finally makes its way to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 8:00:40 GMT -5
I see that folks on this forum are real quick and ready to jump down your throat and spit bile in your face, but not as quick to say maybe we shouldnt have jumped to conclusions or thrown poop so fast. Quick to say quit moaning, while even quicker to moan about it. Look around. Are we not catching enough hell from everywhere as it is? What is it that makes people look for any opportunity to throw daggers at others when the very planet around us is swallowing us whole?
Hello?
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Post by SuperHero on Jan 5, 2020 10:32:14 GMT -5
Uncalled for, unnecessary and unappreciated. Just replying to this one again since our objective moderator thought it was fair to leave it. I wasnt making a joke out of trying to be funny. I had a moment of exasperation. Reading your post just brought me back. Worrying about dying in flames I was attempting to drive my family through. To make it to safety and be greeted by that on a television set. The sight of others really taking this in... with smoke still in the air. Just blows my mind even now. Only my outburst asking if the suggestion was that i just drove through a chinese hoax seemed to snap the hypnosis. I did say sorry but the moderator felt it prudent to delete that part without mentioning it. Above all else and in all seriousness Please dont forget to stay hydrated. you mean where you said sorry before going off on another rant? I see that folks on this forum are real quick and ready to jump down your throat and spit bile in your face, but not as quick to say maybe we shouldnt have jumped to conclusions or thrown poop so fast. Quick to say quit moaning, while even quicker to moan about it. Look around. Are we not catching enough hell from everywhere as it is? What is it that makes people look for any opportunity to throw daggers at others when the very planet around us is swallowing us whole? Hello? I have not point a finger at anyone directly, however this is your last warning to stay on topic. Wanna vent about conditions dun attitude of the community here, do it on another thread. I don’t even know what the purpose of this recent reply is.
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Post by SuperHero on Jan 5, 2020 10:33:21 GMT -5
I understand your sentiments, but your data isn't right. We don't send any aid to India any more, and it was falling until it stopped in 2018. We haven't given bilateral (monetary) aid to China since 2011. The Department for International Development has an excellent website if you're interested. While the funds to India may have stopped, we were sending them aid while they were ramping up their space programme. In 2008 the were sending up satellites, which the uk, in essence, paid for. As to China, as recently as 2017 under the Prosperity Fund, the UK was going to send aid for China’s elderly, until one watchdog pointed out how ridiculous it was to be sending aid to a country with a bigger economy than our own. while foreign aid, currently, is being sent to countries in need, the total amount is more than is spent on the UK’s police forces. As it is, I’d rather the money went more into disaster relief than the hands of some corrupt official in whichever country it finally makes its way to. Last warning for you too. You might be right or wrong, but this is not the thread for this. Tell folks to write to their MP and move along
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2020 11:23:14 GMT -5
Just replying to this one again since our objective moderator thought it was fair to leave it. I wasnt making a joke out of trying to be funny. I had a moment of exasperation. Reading your post just brought me back. Worrying about dying in flames I was attempting to drive my family through. To make it to safety and be greeted by that on a television set. The sight of others really taking this in... with smoke still in the air. Just blows my mind even now. Only my outburst asking if the suggestion was that i just drove through a chinese hoax seemed to snap the hypnosis. I did say sorry but the moderator felt it prudent to delete that part without mentioning it. Above all else and in all seriousness Please dont forget to stay hydrated. you mean where you said sorry before going off on another rant? Where i went off on another rant. really? Thanks for that. much appreciated. It says more about this environment than could be described, coming from a 'moderator'. Job well done.
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Post by Joopiter on Jan 5, 2020 17:06:14 GMT -5
you mean where you said sorry before going off on another rant? Where i went off on another rant. really? Thanks for that. much appreciated. It says more about this environment than could be described, coming from a 'moderator'. Job well done. I second what Superhero is explaining, Raven. No discussion with him outside of this thread; I just came in late right before your post was edited to remove the political part. I was pleasantly surprised to see a nice response from you in your follow up post, but yes, it did transition into more heated political discussion further down in the post. Please, let's just let it go and focus on the fact that there's a catastrophe going on and we should do our part to help.
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Post by runamok on Jan 5, 2020 18:10:47 GMT -5
While the funds to India may have stopped, we were sending them aid while they were ramping up their space programme. In 2008 the were sending up satellites, which the uk, in essence, paid for. As to China, as recently as 2017 under the Prosperity Fund, the UK was going to send aid for China’s elderly, until one watchdog pointed out how ridiculous it was to be sending aid to a country with a bigger economy than our own. while foreign aid, currently, is being sent to countries in need, the total amount is more than is spent on the UK’s police forces. As it is, I’d rather the money went more into disaster relief than the hands of some corrupt official in whichever country it finally makes its way to. Last warning for you too. You might be right or wrong, but this is not the thread for this. Tell folks to write to their MP and move along Sorry Super, I hadn’t seen the warnings being given out. Got here through notifications > quote reply, and hadn’t scrolled back up the thread.
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Post by Grumpy Tanker #Official on Jan 5, 2020 18:43:54 GMT -5
Wow, leave you guys to your own devices for a day and look what happens. We have a slight reprieve today. You've all probably seen broadcasts and news reports, but it's still going on here. Please don't fight it out amongst yourselves, you're all better people than that. Help us. God knows we need it. I'll leave you with this sombre image. ".....our land abounds in nature's gifts of beauty, rich and rare...." And thank you for support whether just reading this thread and being aware, making a donation, buying Australian products, writing to your political representative, watching a news bulletin and not walking away. You can all make a difference, and thank you.
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Post by T34 on Jan 6, 2020 0:48:58 GMT -5
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Post by T34 on Jan 6, 2020 0:58:45 GMT -5
from the emergency site above:
"If your maximum visibility is 1.5 kilometres or less, your air quality is in the hazardous level, and you need to limit your time outdoors, limit exercise and follow any treatment plans........"
I dont think i can see more than a few hundred meters in Melbourne.
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Post by maverick on Jan 6, 2020 3:59:53 GMT -5
Yeah we had 2 months of not being able to see much on the mid north coast of NSW. The village of Nymboida (population 300) just up the road lost 83 houses in November. That is the majority of the village.
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 6, 2020 7:37:39 GMT -5
Anyone know if Red Cross is taking donations? My wife and I usually donate through them. I'll check with her later today.
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Post by scrmngeagle325 on Jan 6, 2020 8:53:41 GMT -5
I'll have to apologize for not having a need for ugg boots. So, after contacting the Australian embassy I donated to the Australian Red Cross Australian Red Cross The same amount that I almost spent on a couple of the PIX bundle offers.
Stay safe.
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Jan 6, 2020 9:27:51 GMT -5
I've recently been watching a guy on YouTube that gets into botany like most YTers get into Video Games or groupies get into bands. He has made several videos from his trip to Oz this year, and he pointed out that a LOT of the native species had fruit that wouldn't seed until fire happened. Fire is definitely part of Australia's makeup... however, the extent of what is going on now is beyond unprecedented and the calls for help are indeed truly genuine.
I know several people that live down there and they are all awesome folk... Of course I wish the best for each and every one of y'all... but I will definitely be finding a donation method to assist, asap. Cheers Grumpy Tanker #Official, for shedding light on this since it helps bring it home to those of us so far removed from what is happening.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2020 19:15:02 GMT -5
from the emergency site above: "If your maximum visibility is 1.5 kilometres or less, your air quality is in the hazardous level, and you need to limit your time outdoors, limit exercise and follow any treatment plans........" I dont think i can see more than a few hundred meters in Melbourne. Where's that mother「fluffernutter」er that said climate change was hoax. 「fluffernutter」ing chicken 「dookie」 is hiding. I don't hide. I'm here to defend the Hover. The best bot out there. Gotta beat back ALL the trolls. Before there is nothing left to save. It's hard work, Hover is a great bot many are using now, and everyone needs to breath air.
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Post by T34 on Jan 6, 2020 20:28:55 GMT -5
from the emergency site above: "If your maximum visibility is 1.5 kilometres or less, your air quality is in the hazardous level, and you need to limit your time outdoors, limit exercise and follow any treatment plans........" I dont think i can see more than a few hundred meters in Melbourne. Where's that motherã??fluffernutterã?er that said climate change was hoax. ã??fluffernutterã?ing chicken ã??dookieã? is hiding. I don't hide. I'm here to defend the Hover. The best bot out there. Gotta beat back ALL the trolls. Before there is nothing left to save. It's hard work, Hover is a great bot many are using now, and everyone needs to breath air. No expert in this matter but from what I can gather after listening to whats in the news and having gone through a few cycles of such intense fires during the past few decades is that climate change is a contributing factor at a macro level. Climate change is not responsible for sick idiots deliberately lighting fires. Nor is climate change responsible for the inadequate/insufficient back burning practices. This ?dookie? happens like every 10 years (as in significant fires) and we know its coming but partially ignore it then ?dookie? hits the fan. Climate change is a fact but looking at climate change as a major contributor to such situations is perhaps a bit unrealistic. Edit: forgot to say that a squadron of water bombing Hovers would be awesome.
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Post by milty72 on Jan 6, 2020 23:58:27 GMT -5
Anyone know if Red Cross is taking donations? My wife and I usually donate through them. I'll check with her later today. Yep red cross are. They may even have a specific donation cause just for the bushfire relief.
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Post by milty72 on Jan 7, 2020 0:14:52 GMT -5
I've recently been watching a guy on YouTube that gets into botany like most YTers get into Video Games or groupies get into bands. He has made several videos from his trip to Oz this year, and he pointed out that a LOT of the native species had fruit that wouldn't seed until fire happened. Fire is definitely part of Australia's makeup... however, the extent of what is going on now is beyond unprecedented and the calls for help are indeed truly genuine.
I know several people that live down there and they are all awesome folk... Of course I wish the best for each and every one of y'all... but I will definitely be finding a donation method to assist, asap. Cheers Grumpy Tanker #Official , for shedding light on this since it helps bring it home to those of us so far removed from what is happening.
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Yep. You're right about the Bush needing fire to regenerate and the indigenous first nations used to use fire to hazard reduce and did so for countless millenniums. I grew up in the bush land suburbs of Sydney and have seen many a fire rip through and then within 5 years it's pretty much back to normal. My dad was in the bush fire brigade for over 60 years. I grew up in it and have helped with hazard reduction when I was a kid. I'm 47 and have seen a few fires but I've never seen fires of this magnitude or for this duration of time. The heat has obliterated the bush this time around. It's gonna take a few decades to recover from this. There's a 「dookie」 tonne of bushland that is untouched and a 「dookie」 tonne of summer to go.
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Post by scrmngeagle325 on Jan 7, 2020 6:47:51 GMT -5
Anyone know if Red Cross is taking donations? My wife and I usually donate through them. I'll check with her later today. Yep red cross are. They may even have a specific donation cause just for the bushfire relief. They do have a direct link. They also have several helpful links for those affected by the fires.
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Post by Koalabear on Jan 7, 2020 9:46:49 GMT -5
Anyone know if Red Cross is taking donations? My wife and I usually donate through them. I'll check with her later today. Yep red cross are. They may even have a specific donation cause just for the bushfire relief. My wife had to go thru the Australian Red Cross to donate.
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