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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 2:02:00 GMT -5
Sheesh, this is getting ridiculous! I’m not talking about tanking, but people quitting one sided matchups. I completely understand and have no problem with people who do it (I do it myself against certain clans) but ?whiskey tango foxtrot?, itâ??s getting ridiculous!? I just had a match where four of the blues didnâ??t drop a second bot, and Iâ??m seeing people â??opt outâ?? at the start of normal matches increasingly regularly too. Are Pix so ?slow? that they think people will tolerate such bull?dookie? one-sided match-ups? Are others seeing an increase in this? As I say, no criticism given how ?fluffernutter?ed up matchmaker is.
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Post by Method Games[YT] on Dec 31, 2019 2:23:20 GMT -5
Get smashed by the same squad 2 times in a row. Use the "leave battle" button after all my bots were destroyed in the second only to have to wait 1+ minute plus for the next game to start which... You guessed it, featured the same squad again because hey they must be the only other 6 players available in the whole world. Now I'm in Leavers Queue at the moment for leaving games too early Been waiting for a game for over 20 minutes now.
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Post by dis on Dec 31, 2019 2:32:12 GMT -5
When a squad of maxed out or almost maxed out leach / phantom wide out you whole team 1st bots in less than a minute then I do sometimes not drop 2nd bot and just watch the carange unfold. However the vast majority of the time I just drop all my bots do what damage I can and move on.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 2:50:05 GMT -5
I usually drop two...if they both diethisforkingquick, then I just put my device down, get some water, come back, blow away the smoke, and try again.
Today, started in my Invader in Valley. Jumped to get a beacon in one of the corners. Turned around to see THREE PHANTOMS from the other team in my butt, and only 1 blue beacon.
Yeah...got a note from Pixonic. The mismatches are to keep the Champion level players happy, basically. Always gives me a warm feeling when I think about it.
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Post by runamok on Dec 31, 2019 2:51:13 GMT -5
It's simply a case of not enough players squadding. They have to be put against someone. What does annoy me, however, is when you get one meta squad followed by a different clan's meta squad. The MM is in dire need of a rethink.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 2:55:11 GMT -5
Get smashed by the same squad 2 times in a row. Use the "leave battle" button after all my bots were destroyed in the second only to have to wait 1+ minute plus for the next game to start which... You guessed it, featured the same squad again because hey they must be the only other 6 players available in the whole world. Now I'm in Leavers Queue at the moment for leaving games too early Been waiting for a game for over 20 minutes now. Lol I warn u 「fluffernutter」ers not to leave. how many days they ban u?
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Post by psychopsyd on Dec 31, 2019 5:24:30 GMT -5
Kill squads became a thing the second squads became a thing....
Once commanders with 2 or more brain cells to rub together figured out that MM ranks the squad off the highest ranked Commander in the squad...there was no good reason to bring "weak sister" commanders in the squad as there is no bonus for dying "gloriously" in a tragic overmatch or vanquishing a superior foe. (and having your mostly dead bot killed with one shot 5 seconds later) Bringing lesser league commanders just gets your squad outnumbered very quickly.
So...what do you get with 6 equally experienced commanders in nearly equal equipment....with a bit of practice, a kill squad.
Doesn't have to be Champions League...a team of GOLD pilots in LEOS, GRIFFS, GOLEMS & STALKERS could do it...but they would move up to DIAMOND faster than they could re-equip/level up their hangars without spending real money....
I enjoy squadding with my clan, but we don't have a lot of Champions League commanders who squad often...so we tend to get beaten a lot with our mixed bag of pilots. (Even by randoms.)
I play all my bots in every battle...
If 3 blues quit... I've at least finished 3rd and didn't lose as many points...it sux getting slaughtered, but PIXO isn't going to remove kill squadding.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 31, 2019 5:28:56 GMT -5
Tankers continue to be the worst single element of this game for me. Worse than 「meow」 Save spamming, Leech-infested, whale clan spawn raids.
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Post by psychopsyd on Dec 31, 2019 6:19:52 GMT -5
Tankers continue to be the worst single element of this game for me. Worse than ?meow? Save spamming, Leech-infested, whale clan spawn raids. Not worse by much...but yes...worse. I really don't get tanking....you have to deliberately lose for an extended period of time to start winning again...? Do you actually earn enough resources over just playing competitively to make it worth looking rather phallic and having lost out on earning resources over that time period? Despite my best efforts, game crash "tanked" me from Champions League to M2... when I got my game working again, yeah, I won a lot of games and scored quite a bit of rank...but not nearly as much as I left on the table when I would get crashed out of a game (for months). I'm probably 4 months behind where I would have been in building/leveling gear if I could have stayed at or near Champions League....
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Post by shad3z on Dec 31, 2019 6:28:43 GMT -5
It might be worse but I don't really care. It happened to me too over the weekend and the match was over in less than 1m5Os. I got first place with top damage, top repair, top beacon. The HP I got for less than 2 minutes of work compared to the HP I get for a 8 to 10 minute match was actually worth it. 5 of those matches (in 10 minutes) would net me almost 3 times the HP of a single 10 minute match...
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Post by BB on Dec 31, 2019 6:30:12 GMT -5
IMO itâs a logical and totally justified response to a chronically 「dookie」ty situation. The MM has been sad and hopeless for months on end now, but if you want to war it up with others, it is what it is.
Perhaps the long awaited platform merge will âfixâ the problems?......?
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Post by 7Chandrian on Dec 31, 2019 6:45:00 GMT -5
I voted no just because it's been terrible for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 6:52:02 GMT -5
Hi everyone. New here from other chats and forums. Mostly I like to read but this topic i thought was kinda only me. I am happy to know lots more than just me are doing it.
To be honest I remember back when the shocktrain and orkan spectre was the big aggro that had people talking about leaving games and I felt then that it was better to stay in and fight regardless what reds you face. But what changed for me is fighting my heart out against a death squad- even get a kill or two, losing time on boosters, just to end up with a -26 at the end of a match anywayz? That was the last straw.
So for me, if i start a match and see a bunch of Ao juns take flight- im ejecting (i dont feel like playing super peek-a-boo with pop up super ninnies. All that firepower but just wont come out from hiding to fight without ability? = super vag, yes puss- with a V on your chest).
I see death squads- goodbye. Bunch of leeches- Poof im gone. Whatever. Those who wanna have that kind of gear and gameplay can play amongst yourselves. If im gonna get the negative rating anyways, you have to be a raving idiot to think im gonna swallow all the beatdown and aggravation along with it. And they say i should stay in matches because what? They dont have anyone left to use all their expensive gear on? awwwe. poor babies. This was supposed to be fun. Remember?
By the way i play android and steam my league is champion 9 with just over 8,000 winged cups
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Post by bravex on Dec 31, 2019 6:59:26 GMT -5
MM is extra bad on my Smurf account where I use Kindle Fire.
When I see $4me coming at me with Phantoms and Leeches, I just quit. I'd rather just take my -22 and save myself the two minutes of aggravation.
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Post by Eradicator1 on Dec 31, 2019 7:40:39 GMT -5
Tankers continue to be the worst single element of this game for me. Worse than ?meow? Save spamming, Leech-infested, whale clan spawn raids. I think once your gear level gets highly enough (as yours is), tanking is the bigger problem. You can battle death squads and have a chance. Or at least score on the top one or two. People with lower gear don’t get that luxury. They just get steamrolled. And that is why I feel most people tank, one bot out, or leave the game. For them death squads is the bigger issue. My hanger is finally getting to a mostly always usable one. So I haven’t left any games in months. Except for one yesterday. I left one against a full cdxx squad. And to make matters worse, shivaswrath was on my team. I feel like a d-bag. Never again.
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Post by Forumite on Dec 31, 2019 8:06:07 GMT -5
I stick it out just see how many licks I can get in before going down. Partially cause its my nature but also because I dont give a pair of wombat testes about rank, leagues, more and more gear, points or really any of the things driving most players as it appears to me.
Now IF I DID CARE ABOUT SUCH THINGS, then I would totally bail to save time and in the case of boosters, resources..
Havent seen it getting really any worse than its been, except it seems like the rule of 3 is back ( seemed to had gone for a while) where squadding w 2 or more clannies almost guarantees a red squad of 5 or 6 Champions League players. Altho i have been playing ALOT less the last couple of months so its entirely possible the percentages are up and im just not noticing
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Post by RightOn on Dec 31, 2019 8:25:40 GMT -5
Tankers continue to be the worst single element of this game for me. Worse than ãÃ?Ã?meowãÃ?àSave spamming, Leech-infested, whale clan spawn raids. Oh ok, so beating up with players with gear 5+ levels lower should be acceptable. Take the number 100. Multiply it by 1.1, by 1.1, by 1.1, by 1.1, by 1.1... hell do it another time. There's where they stand. Let's not forget boosters and pilot skills. It's easily 200 vs 100. I ain't got the time for that ã??dookieã?Â. If I see where the match is going, I will upfront leave immediately. I will not putz around like a dunce. If I came there in the first place, it's going to happen again anyway, so I make a plan that works for me. It's called enjoying my ?fluffernutter?ing time spent. But I don't think that makes me a Tanker... Tanker is the definition to somebody who purposely lowers their rank to seal club. This isn't tanking. Either I read you wrong or you think leaving a 「dookie」ty matchup is tanking.
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Post by scrmngeagle325 on Dec 31, 2019 9:05:27 GMT -5
Kill squads became a thing the second squads became a thing.... Once commanders with 2 or more brain cells to rub together figured out that MM ranks the squad off the highest ranked Commander in the squad...there was no good reason to bring "weak sister" commanders in the squad as there is no bonus for dying "gloriously" in a tragic overmatch or vanquishing a superior foe. (and having your mostly dead bot killed with one shot 5 seconds later) Bringing lesser league commanders just gets your squad outnumbered very quickly. So...what do you get with 6 equally experienced commanders in nearly equal equipment....with a bit of practice, a kill squad. Doesn't have to be Champions League...a team of GOLD pilots in LEOS, GRIFFS, GOLEMS & STALKERS could do it...but they would move up to DIAMOND faster than they could re-equip/level up their hangars without spending real money.... I enjoy squadding with my clan, but we don't have a lot of Champions League commanders who squad often...so we tend to get beaten a lot with our mixed bag of pilots. (Even by randoms.) I play all my bots in every battle... If 3 blues quit... I've at least finished 3rd and didn't lose as many points...it sux getting slaughtered, but PIXO isn't going to remove kill squadding. This ^^ I always drop all of my bots. Sometimes the randoms are from other good clans and we’ll not do too bad, other times it’s a train wreck. If it’s sucking, I’ll just get in what damage I can and bot out then move on unless want to look at something in someone’s hanger. Always a chance that I’ll kill a princess bot with my Golem, Fury or Butch and butt hurt that player. What I don’t understand is the idiotic shooting of the walls after they win a game that they can’t lose.
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Post by Jeb on Dec 31, 2019 9:36:56 GMT -5
MM is extra bad on my Smurf account where I use Kindle Fire. When I see $4me coming at me with Phantoms and Leeches, I just quit. I'd rather just take my -22 and save myself the two minutes of aggravation. Yeah...those guys. They're something. My personal "whatever" move to death squads is to drop and not take a step, but literally turn my back on the rush. Go ahead, bro, you just run up and hump-shoot me, I won't waste my time on you. But I also like to be the guy who embarrasses someone on the death squad by taking him out in the middle of their rout. I like to imagine that he gets razzed by his team in their Discord..."you got killed by a LEO?!" On the other hand, they've also asked me to squad with them once or twice, so...
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Post by Sgt. Beacon on Dec 31, 2019 9:50:35 GMT -5
I thought I'd ask this now. I always get dropped late into games now a days-at least 3-4 seconds late. But, also when I get wasted rather quickly and the second bot also. These are the games with the worst lag. I used to get the reconnecting/disconnecting before, but here lately I've been totally disconnected more than ever. Especially in the last two weeks. Even if I don't get disco'd-it is the worst lag fest I've ever seen. It could be the same for others. I had to put down the game a lot more times in the last 2 weeks-and it wasn't because of the ?fluffernutter?ed up MM. Anyone else?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 9:52:11 GMT -5
It seems about the same to me. Been playing for over 18 months.
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Post by Loganspawn on Dec 31, 2019 10:27:28 GMT -5
Hi everyone. New here from other chats and forums. Mostly I like to read but this topic i thought was kinda only me. I am happy to know lots more than just me are doing it. To be honest I remember back when the shocktrain and orkan spectre was the big aggro that had people talking about leaving games and I felt then that it was better to stay in and fight regardless what reds you face. But what changed for me is fighting my heart out against a death squad- even get a kill or two, losing time on boosters, just to end up with a -26 at the end of a match anywayz? That was the last straw. So for me, if i start a match and see a bunch of Ao juns take flight- im ejecting (i dont feel like playing super peek-a-boo with pop up super ninnies. All that firepower but just wont come out from hiding to fight without ability? = super vag, yes puss- with a V on your chest). I see death squads- goodbye. Bunch of leeches- Poof im gone. Whatever. Those who wanna have that kind of gear and gameplay can play amongst yourselves. If im gonna get the negative rating anyways, you have to be a raving idiot to think im gonna swallow all the beatdown and aggravation along with it. And they say i should stay in matches because what? They dont have anyone left to use all their expensive gear on? awwwe. poor babies. This was supposed to be fun. Remember? By the way i play android and steam my league is champion 9 with just over 8,000 winged cups Edited since you are new. Nicest way I can say it is maybe you shouldn't be in champ if you are talking about bots and weapons like this.
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Post by mechtout on Dec 31, 2019 10:32:42 GMT -5
Not so much leavers for me but damage 「loose lady」s who dont push beacons beyond the two home beacons are in full effect. Thats more of a waste of time than death squads imo. Its like an agonizing bleed for 10 mins
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Post by Loganspawn on Dec 31, 2019 10:51:35 GMT -5
Not so much leavers for me but damage ?hot stuff?s who dont push beacons beyond the two home beacons are in full effect. Thats more of a waste of time than death squads imo. Its like an agonizing bleed for 10 mins No kidding and also why do people play BR and drop Natasha, Fury, Fen and the like. Many of these players then come to the forum complaining of whales and killer squads! Get a clue!!!!! Also If you are not dropping a bot with speed on BR at start just GTFO.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 11:03:59 GMT -5
I don’t know....I haven’t really noticed much of a change, however the more screwed up Pix makes things, the more screwed up behaviors I see in game.....
My biggest concern is why, after over 18 months on the forum, the Mods don’t break down and pin a sub board somewhere so folks can continue the never ending discussion/rants regarding MM......Mods, any chance of this happening?
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Post by mechtout on Dec 31, 2019 11:12:28 GMT -5
I don’t know....I haven’t really noticed much of a change, however the more screwed up Pix makes things, the more screwed up behaviors I see in game..... My biggest concern is why, after over 18 months on the forum, the Mods don’t break down and pin a sub board somewhere so folks can continue the never ending discussion/rants regarding MM......Mods, any chance of this happening? Here you go war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/board/5/rants
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 11:14:48 GMT -5
I don’t know....I haven’t really noticed much of a change, however the more screwed up Pix makes things, the more screwed up behaviors I see in game..... My biggest concern is why, after over 18 months on the forum, the Mods don’t break down and pin a sub board somewhere so folks can continue the never ending discussion/rants regarding MM......Mods, any chance of this happening? Here you go war-robots-forum.freeforums.net/board/5/rantsNice PSA +1
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Post by ʂωєєтცяєα∂ on Dec 31, 2019 11:28:17 GMT -5
We do not play in squad looking to face-off against randoms. We would much much rather face full clans only for the competitiveness. SO, it is an issue with the current MM. (As it is, my clan mostly tries to diversify hangars when compared to other S-rank clans who mostly run all Leech.)
The game needs a iOS/Android platform merger to increase likelihood of clan vs. clan battles. Or, Pixonic should create a new higher-tiered league for high Champions to help prevent beating up on Master leaguers and players hovering on low-Champion.
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Post by Шɑɡɡɪή on Dec 31, 2019 11:34:16 GMT -5
One thing is quite clear ... if you thought MM was bad a couple years ago, nowadays it's, well, way past effin bad
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Post by Jeb on Dec 31, 2019 12:58:59 GMT -5
Not so much leavers for me but damage ?hot stuff?s who dont push beacons beyond the two home beacons are in full effect. Thats more of a waste of time than death squads imo. Its like an agonizing bleed for 10 mins No kidding and also why do people play BR and drop Natasha, Fury, Fen and the like. Many of these players then come to the forum complaining of whales and killer squads! Get a clue!!!!! Also If you are not dropping a bot with speed on BR at start just GTFO. It's funny how I forget that just because I can get to center or second/third beacon in the first fifteen seconds of a game doesn't mean that any other blues are going to be there with me. My single Raven is going to have a problem once the AJs or Leeches or Phantoms arrive before my jumps can recharge. On the other hand, if my dailies include capturing a certain number of hostile beacons, then I may just spawn first in my Leo so when I get there, I've got a good chance of finding red beacons that I can blast into and flip. BUT - that's a tactical decision, and my remaining bots, if/when I drop them, are all a lot faster and more agile.
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