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Post by Overlordship on Dec 10, 2019 23:17:34 GMT -5
Just encountered my first Ao Ming. After reading some of the threads I figured that I and the rest of blues were toast. Decided to engage him anyhow with my Ao Jun 2x Avengers as I’d just emptied and reloaded them. Took him out fully just as my stealth was ending. Exhilarating. A few screen grabs below. Ao Ming is in target box:
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 0:06:45 GMT -5
Perhaps an Avenger Ao Jun is unbalanced because any similar 2x or more Heavy platform has significant defense and movement drawbacks, none of which Jun suffers from? I hate to side with Titans, but Jun needs it's flight speed halved or Stealth removed.
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Post by foxypotato on Dec 11, 2019 0:29:07 GMT -5
It is almost like the Ao Jun is completely broken or something. Weird.
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Post by ahxish on Dec 11, 2019 2:09:47 GMT -5
Perhaps an Avenger Ao Jun is unbalanced because any similar 2x or more Heavy platform has significant defense and movement drawbacks, none of which Jun suffers from? I hate to side with Titans, but Jun needs it's flight speed halved or Stealth removed. join the dark side. 5 Ao Jun that is....
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Post by CravenSouls on Dec 11, 2019 8:03:44 GMT -5
How is Ao Jun broken? They are literally free to build.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 8:05:40 GMT -5
Ao Jun is a good, balance bot. It needs a buff to deal with the coming Titan invasion.
Wait until Titans are monsters.....then Ao Jun will be your friend!
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 10:55:47 GMT -5
How is Ao Jun broken? They are literally free to build. Just because you're free to build broken garbage doesn't mean it's not a horrible gameplay concept.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 11, 2019 11:33:37 GMT -5
How is Ao Jun broken? They are literally free to build. Just because you're free to build broken garbage doesn't mean it's not a horrible gameplay concept. True story. I have 2 in my damage 「loose lady」 hanger for completing the equally horrible 3000 top dmg tasks (for Pt that I will probably never use, lol). The rest of the time is my AltBot hanger, no Last Stand, no Ao Jun, no PS, non-fat and gluten free, mostly lvl 9 fun bots.
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 11:44:26 GMT -5
Just because you're free to build broken garbage doesn't mean it's not a horrible gameplay concept. True story. I have 2 in my damage ?hot stuff? hanger for completing the equally horrible 3000 top dmg tasks (for Pt that I will probably never use, lol). The rest of the time is my AltBot hanger, no Last Stand, no Ao Jun, no PS, non-fat and gluten free, mostly lvl 9 fun bots. You're joking. I get that objective every day with JSDF/Healing and an hour's worth of matches.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 19:00:57 GMT -5
Hitting an Ao Ming while they're flying (when they have less damage reduction) makes them an easy kill - kinda like taking down a big balloon
Almost all the red Ao Mings I encountered in-game (teammates tended to avoid them) died at the hands of my first Workshop build - a trusty old 2x Lv12 Avenger Lv9 Ao Jun - a comparatively cheap build which I already had back in Expert.
I almost never used it, it was just waaaay too powerful (when I finally decided to use my Ao Jun/Areses/Leeches, I was almost instantly flung out of the Expert leagues.). Of all the free gatcha bots War Robots has given me in droves (SO many Eldritch/Areses and Leeches), I've never been given an Ao Jun.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Dec 11, 2019 19:16:57 GMT -5
How is Ao Jun broken? They are literally free to build. Just because you're free to build broken garbage doesn't mean it's not a horrible gameplay concept. Oh please.
It's the only thing FTP players can make in the WS to compete against ares and leech.
This hate for the Ao Jun is so 「fluffernutter」ing misplaced it's stupid.
You can't just walk out into the open with impunity. Guess what? You NEVER could.
Foolish responses......
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Post by NexusBlade on Dec 11, 2019 20:30:19 GMT -5
Just because you're free to build broken garbage doesn't mean it's not a horrible gameplay concept. Oh please.
It's the only thing FTP players can make in the WS to compete against ares and leech.
This hate for the Ao Jun is so ?fluffernutter?ing misplaced it's stupid.
You can't just walk out into the open with impunity. Guess what? You NEVER could.
Foolish responses......
The hate for Ao Jun is understandable as it was for previous OP bots, Although I do agree Ao Jun being nerfed won't actually help bring balance to the game as pixonic simply won't allow that to happen, I've argued in the past discussing balance is futile and I stand by that, p2w will always drive imbalance, if you want balance you focus on p2w, p2w is never going away however and therefore neither will imbalance.
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 11, 2019 21:01:14 GMT -5
Just because you're free to build broken garbage doesn't mean it's not a horrible gameplay concept. Oh please.
It's the only thing FTP players can make in the WS to compete against ares and leech.
This hate for the Ao Jun is so ?fluffernutter?ing misplaced it's stupid.
You can't just walk out into the open with impunity. Guess what? You NEVER could.
Foolish responses......
Dude, they were practically giving away Leeches in the box last event. I sold the components to build 1.22 of them. Additionally, don't think Ares is off the hook, but thanks to the speed nerf and Shieldbreaker, it's very easy to hide from/retaliate against an Ares. Ao Jun is still flying much faster than it's siblings with the perfect defense system unless you sell a piece of your soul to Pixonic for the ability to chew through it's 200K HP at MK2 12 before it kills you with Avengers that have cycle DPS in the hundreds of thousands. You can hide from a determined Ares. Ao Jun will track you down with it's ludicrous speed and kill you before retaliation is possible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2019 23:43:07 GMT -5
As a recently joined pay-to-have-fun player (like many other mobile games), Pixonic has randomly given or very cheaply offered me 5 Leech, 3 Ares, 3 Eldritch Ares, 3 Nemesis, 2 Phantom, 2 Behemoth, 2 Tyr, 2 Weyland, 2 Vitayaz, Hades, Mender, Spectre, Strider, Loki, Fury, Kumiho, Haechi, Bulgasari, Raven, Rayker, Pursuer, Hellburner, Scavenger Griffon and a Gareth. Along with almost if not all the Legendary skins, many of them in multiple. Pilots and Legendary Pilots. And lots and lots of weaponry (including around 8 Coronas and 8 Pulsars).
Almost all of this sits at Level 1 and I can't afford to level it, nor do I want to sell it, but this is a LOT more than other Freemium games have given me.
One bot I had to build in the workshop was my Ao Jun. And one weapon I had to build was my Glory. I mostly worked on Halos after the Ao Jun. Two desired bots I still lack are the Falcon and the Raijin. All these Hover threads are getting me interested in a Hover too.
edit: I got 2 Deathwing Ao Juns with the last batch of Black Market keys.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 12, 2019 0:46:20 GMT -5
Perhaps an Avenger Ao Jun is unbalanced because any similar 2x or more Heavy platform has significant defense and movement drawbacks, none of which Jun suffers from? I hate to side with Titans, but Jun needs it's flight speed halved or Stealth removed. If they removed its stealth, I’d run 5 of them
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Post by linearblade on Dec 12, 2019 0:49:42 GMT -5
How is Ao Jun broken? They are literally free to build. Raijin cost 4K AU. Clearly they should be better. Ao Jun is workshop trash
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 12, 2019 0:56:32 GMT -5
How is Ao Jun broken? They are literally free to build. Raijin cost 4K AU. Clearly they should be better. Ao Jun is workshop trash Does Raijin really cost 4K Au? I'm old enough to remember paying 12.5K and 15K WSP for the pair, respectively.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 12, 2019 1:13:57 GMT -5
Raijin cost 4K AU. Clearly they should be better. Ao Jun is workshop trash Does Raijin really cost 4K Au? I'm old enough to remember paying 12.5K and 15K WSP for the pair, respectively. Yes. It’s now gold only for raijin
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Post by Thunderkiss on Dec 12, 2019 11:22:14 GMT -5
Oh please.
It's the only thing FTP players can make in the WS to compete against ares and leech.
This hate for the Ao Jun is so ?fluffernutter?ing misplaced it's stupid.
You can't just walk out into the open with impunity. Guess what? You NEVER could.
Foolish responses......
Dude, they were practically giving away Leeches in the box last event. I sold the components to build 1.22 of them. Additionally, don't think Ares is off the hook, but thanks to the speed nerf and Shieldbreaker, it's very easy to hide from/retaliate against an Ares. Ao Jun is still flying much faster than it's siblings with the perfect defense system unless you sell a piece of your soul to Pixonic for the ability to chew through it's 200K HP at MK2 12 before it kills you with Avengers that have cycle DPS in the hundreds of thousands. You can hide from a determined Ares. Ao Jun will track you down with it's ludicrous speed and kill you before retaliation is possible. While I disagree on much of this, our common ground is certainly found in our disgust for pixonics business practices and the effects they have on our play experiences.
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Dec 12, 2019 15:27:33 GMT -5
Dude, they were practically giving away Leeches in the box last event. I sold the components to build 1.22 of them. Additionally, don't think Ares is off the hook, but thanks to the speed nerf and Shieldbreaker, it's very easy to hide from/retaliate against an Ares. Ao Jun is still flying much faster than it's siblings with the perfect defense system unless you sell a piece of your soul to Pixonic for the ability to chew through it's 200K HP at MK2 12 before it kills you with Avengers that have cycle DPS in the hundreds of thousands. You can hide from a determined Ares. Ao Jun will track you down with it's ludicrous speed and kill you before retaliation is possible. While I disagree on much of this, our common ground is certainly found in our disgust for pixonics business practices and the effects they have on our play experiences. I'm glad I don't have to step through this song and dance again, at the very least.
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