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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 10:33:33 GMT -5
I’m seeing a lot of E3, E2.......and I just promoted to M2
I have shattered all my records, and my avg. damage has gone from 650k to 900 k since the patch drop.
So, there is the fix from Pix, lol. Need everyone ranked together, hoisted up in leagues? Drop Titans, ez kills, massive damage numbers even against high champ players, and voila! The one league whale feeding system is coming to fruitation!
Can everyone say Champions? Can anyone prove me wrong?
Titans....born to die, and by their death fix the playerbase issues.....nice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 10:59:16 GMT -5
This is becoming common when it used to be rare...... Amazing damage output, and everyone on the winning team having at least 1M damage.... Hello, Titans!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 11:07:00 GMT -5
I think you might be on to something there. Boost to damage dealt, but no corresponding silver payout. More rapid league progression, which on my platform people try to avoid like a plague (tanking is in full force). Titans which are easy to kill for now and are mostly here to stroke people's egos.
So what is the end game here aimed at by Pixonic? Are titans just another monetization scheme or some sugar to make people swallow something less pleasant? Possibly both.
The one league system theory you are proposing sounds interesting, but it will lead to some players leaving. I don't think Pixonic wants that.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 8, 2019 11:53:45 GMT -5
They haven’t quite killed it yet, but the War Robots Golden Goose is def on life support. I’m playing much less, not even finishing all dailies nor caring much about it. As a result, I’m in low Champions League so far this month and see frequent Masters League and EL players. And even this poor Schmoe... Titans are a revenue flop, player activity is in sharp decline and I predict a generous Ops Pass reward stream with a wildly bugged FenDeer - maybe an instant recharge aegis in mode shift or DR all the time. It’s gotta be something shamelessly godlike, such as the indestructible Ancient Tyr shield.
Idk though, it is ugly AF and I can’t see spending th resources to upgrade it for a short-lived Pix-sponsored cheat bot.
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Post by mechtout on Dec 8, 2019 11:57:48 GMT -5
I have a delusional hope they will retract titans from the game. Not because they are OP or anything, just because they are lame af
Adding a second Blitz to my hangar brought new life into my game play, going to concetrate more on fun hangars like this that match my preferred style of play, might even level it beyond 8!
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Post by BB on Dec 8, 2019 12:10:19 GMT -5
Agreed, the whole give the players their damage but not the silver scheme is not an accident or an oversight. There are so many moving parts in this game to monitor. I just assume that every new scheme they come up with has a window dressing benefit along with their covert agendas a few layers down.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 8, 2019 12:15:25 GMT -5
They haven’t quite killed it yet, but the War Robots Golden Goose is def on life support. I’m playing much less, not even finishing all dailies nor caring much about it. As a result, I’m in low Champions League so far this month and see frequent Masters League and EL players. And even this poor Schmoe... Titans are a revenue flop, player activity is in sharp decline and I predict a generous Ops Pass reward stream with a wildly bugged FenDeer - maybe an instant recharge aegis in mode shift or DR all the time. It’s gotta be something shamelessly godlike, such as the indestructible Ancient Tyr shield.
Idk though, it is ugly AF and I can’t see spending th resources to upgrade it for a short-lived Pix-sponsored cheat bot. If you had 5 of them plus the pilots, you could rename your account to bad Santa. Might be worth it
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 8, 2019 12:18:33 GMT -5
I have a delusional hope they will retract titans from the game. Not because they are OP or anything, just because they are lame af
Adding a second Blitz to my hangar brought new life into my game play, going to concetrate more on fun hangars like this that match my preferred style of play, might even level it beyond 8!
Titans are absolutely here to stay and I wouldn’t be surprised to see “Free” Kids show up in every hanger, forcing their play. My irrational, delusional hope is that they fix the Ag payouts vs. damage ratios, which would be a net silver buff with Titans in the mix. <eloquent rant deleted>
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 8, 2019 12:19:49 GMT -5
They haven’t quite killed it yet, but the War Robots Golden Goose is def on life support. I’m playing much less, not even finishing all dailies nor caring much about it. As a result, I’m in low Champions League so far this month and see frequent Masters League and EL players. And even this poor Schmoe... Titans are a revenue flop, player activity is in sharp decline and I predict a generous Ops Pass reward stream with a wildly bugged FenDeer - maybe an instant recharge aegis in mode shift or DR all the time. It’s gotta be something shamelessly godlike, such as the indestructible Ancient Tyr shield.
Idk though, it is ugly AF and I can’t see spending th resources to upgrade it for a short-lived Pix-sponsored cheat bot. If you had 5 of them plus the pilots, you could rename your account to bad Santa. Might be worth it Elf + Bad Santa, best holiday double feature ever! Other Holiday Classics include Die Hard and Lethal Weapon. But I digress...again.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 8, 2019 12:23:32 GMT -5
Agreed, the whole give the players their damage but not the silver scheme is not an accident or an oversight. There are so many moving parts in this game to monitor. I just assume that every new scheme they come up with has a window dressing benefit along with their covert agendas a few layers down. It’s nonsense. If I had designed the system. Logging would track all damage to file/memory/sql Probably to text file first then inserted into sql. It would then be a simple enough to teach the damage. a few thoughts: 1) it’s possibke due to the type of unit, it’s not tracked by oversight, especially if pixonic later envisioned things like damage by type of units or environmental damage, etc. 2) any of these type changes would be simple;(trivial) to fix. 3) it could be done server side.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 8, 2019 12:28:30 GMT -5
They haven’t quite killed it yet, but the War Robots Golden Goose is def on life support. I’m playing much less, not even finishing all dailies nor caring much about it. As a result, I’m in low Champions League so far this month and see frequent Masters League and EL players. And even this poor Schmoe... Titans are a revenue flop, player activity is in sharp decline and I predict a generous Ops Pass reward stream with a wildly bugged FenDeer - maybe an instant recharge aegis in mode shift or DR all the time. It’s gotta be something shamelessly godlike, such as the indestructible Ancient Tyr shield.
Idk though, it is ugly AF and I can’t see spending th resources to upgrade it for a short-lived Pix-sponsored cheat bot. Players are in decline due to the culmination of ares Ao Jun and leeches not Titans. Titans might be boring for some, but hardly chasing anyone away. Pixonic simply jumped the shark with their ridiculous pricing and inability to keep up with hyper inflation. And that’s how hyper inflation works. See Venezuela or Zimbabwe
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 8, 2019 12:39:22 GMT -5
They havenât quite killed it yet, but the War Robots Golden Goose is def on life support. Iâm playing much less, not even finishing all dailies nor caring much about it. As a result, Iâm in low Champions League so far this month and see frequent Masters League and EL players. And even this poor Schmoe... Titans are a revenue flop, player activity is in sharp decline and I predict a generous Ops Pass reward stream with a wildly bugged FenDeer - maybe an instant recharge aegis in mode shift or DR all the time. Itâs gotta be something shamelessly godlike, such as the indestructible Ancient Tyr shield.
Idk though, it is ugly AF and I canât see spending th resources to upgrade it for a short-lived Pix-sponsored cheat bot. Players are in decline due to the culmination of ares Ao Jun and leeches not Titans. Titans might be boring for some, but hardly chasing anyone away. Pixonic simply jumped the shark with their ridiculous pricing and inability to keep up with hyper inflation. And thatâs how hyper inflation works. See Venezuela or Zimbabwe Agreed and add PS in that mix of Pix 「fluffernutter」 ups. Iâve come across brutal Titans twice, Ao Mings leveled in the 20s. And even then, the only reason they were an issue is because I was running my Alt hanger. At $2500-3000 per bot to max out, I think Pix has finally found an Edison moment. Titans arenât a business Fail, they are a Success in finding a way that Whales wonât spend money. Lmao, just cracking myself up here, move along...move along, nothing to see here.
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Post by NexusBlade on Dec 8, 2019 14:21:22 GMT -5
Players are in decline due to the culmination of ares Ao Jun and leeches not Titans. Titans might be boring for some, but hardly chasing anyone away. Pixonic simply jumped the shark with their ridiculous pricing and inability to keep up with hyper inflation. And thatâ??s how hyper inflation works. See Venezuela or Zimbabwe Agreed and add PS in that mix of Pix ?fluffernutter? ups. Iâ??ve come across brutal Titans twice, Ao Mings leveled in the 20s. And even then, the only reason they were an issue is because I was running my Alt hanger. At $2500-3000 per bot to max out, I think Pix has finally found an Edison moment. Titans arenâ??t a business Fail, they are a Success in finding a way that Whales wonâ??t spend money. Lmao, just cracking myself up here, move along...move along, nothing to see here. Right now lets put ourselves in the shoes of a player with 5 maxed leeches all the bells and whistles you could want, I would bet 99/100 times you're not even botting out to begin with, and why spawn a titan when you have another leech? If you don't already have a leech why would you buy a titan instead of a leech, and why would you level a titan instead of a leech, it Makes no sense for whales and makes no sense for ftp players who won't just start throwing exorbitant amounts of money at the game for something that wont help them.
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Post by OU812? on Dec 8, 2019 14:41:48 GMT -5
They need to seriously do something about the power creep. That has to be doing something to the player base.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 8, 2019 15:24:50 GMT -5
They need to seriously do something about the power creep. That has to be doing something to the player base. Power creep? It’s power LEAP these days. And nothing to be done. The gap is already so big it doesn’t matter any more. Back in the GepRog days, it really took a full clan squad to be a death squad. Now, just to maxed out hangers can do the same thing. Full, nearly unresisted domination.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 8, 2019 15:30:58 GMT -5
Agreed and add PS in that mix of Pix ?fluffernutter? ups. Iâ??ve come across brutal Titans twice, Ao Mings leveled in the 20s. And even then, the only reason they were an issue is because I was running my Alt hanger. At $2500-3000 per bot to max out, I think Pix has finally found an Edison moment. Titans arenâ??t a business Fail, they are a Success in finding a way that Whales wonâ??t spend money. Lmao, just cracking myself up here, move along...move along, nothing to see here. Right now lets put ourselves in the shoes of a player with 5 maxed leeches all the bells and whistles you could want, I would bet 99/100 times you're not even botting out to begin with, and why spawn a titan when you have another leech? If you don't already have a leech why would you buy a titan instead of a leech, and why would you level a titan instead of a leech, it Makes no sense for whales and makes no sense for ftp players who won't just start throwing exorbitant amounts of money at the game for something that wont help them. As I’ve mentioned in other threads, Titan spending will be mostly isolated to the full Whale on Whale clans that already have maxed out Leech suckfest. Once Rubicon or CDxx or NOOB or CHN, etc. start dropping Benjamins on Titans...look out! Whale Clan 1 - We are going to kill you to infinity. Whale Cla 2 - Oh yeah, well WE are going to kill you to infinity + 1. Whale Clan 1 - Nuh uh, we will kill you to infinity + 2. Whale Clan 2 - OK, then we will kill you to infinity plus INFINITY. Whale Clan 1 - Oh sure you will, but not until we kill you infinity TIMES infinity! Me - Uh, I just started leveling up my only Rime to 10mk1 right on top of my lvl 9Mk1 Loki...pew pew pew....run away!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 15:32:25 GMT -5
I have a delusional hope they will retract titans from the game. Not because they are OP or anything, just because they are lame af
Adding a second Blitz to my hangar brought new life into my game play, going to concetrate more on fun hangars like this that match my preferred style of play, might even level it beyond 8!
Titans are absolutely here to stay and I wouldn’t be surprised to see “Free” Kids show up in every hanger, forcing their play. My irrational, delusional hope is that they fix the Ag payouts vs. damage ratios, which would be a net silver buff with Titans in the mix. <eloquent rant deleted> If ya watch their lame video, the one with JC Denton middle finger guy, then everyone gets a free kid.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 15:37:07 GMT -5
They need to seriously do something about the power creep. That has to be doing something to the player base. Power creep? It’s power LEAP these days. And nothing to be done. The gap is already so big it doesn’t matter any more. Back in the GepRog days, it really took a full clan squad to be a death squad. Now, just to maxed out hangers can do the same thing. Full, nearly unresisted domination. I’ve said many times, it’s the economy that has made it a 2 class society. Haves and have nots. No middle class. Things have gotton so bad, it’s normal now.
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Post by Replicant on Dec 8, 2019 15:46:51 GMT -5
Titans look like a trap: Inflate your league score relative to those that don't play Titans for the privilege of playing at a higher league, but titans don't look anymore engaging from a game-play perspective than a Leo.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Dec 8, 2019 15:48:52 GMT -5
Titans look like a trap: Inflate your league score relative to those that don't play Titans for the privilege of playing at a higher league, but titans don't look anymore engaging from a game-play perspective than a Leo. Exactly right. I’ve dropped Kid a few times and it is just boring AF to play.
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Post by Replicant on Dec 8, 2019 16:05:55 GMT -5
Titans look like a trap: Inflate your league score relative to those that don't play Titans for the privilege of playing at a higher league, but titans don't look anymore engaging from a game-play perspective than a Leo. Exactly right. I’ve dropped Kid a few times and it is just boring AF to play. I don't get the charge-them-to-use-them mechanic either. They spawn too late to change the flow of battle. I'm not a fan of P2W, but these Titans would better fit the game if they were more like Power Cells - spend x Power Cells to spawn your Titan. At least then you could use the thing strategically. As it stands I'm perfectly happy to play my Titan-less hanger and bank the Platinum for the future.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 16:35:42 GMT -5
Whatever is going on, I have been 56-66% winrate for a couple of weeks now, gone is the usual beat down cycle......and my numbers are just crazy.
I know my 9/10 hangar is not very strong, barely a low champs hangar....yet today, I feel like I can’t lose, lol
One thing is for sure and for certain....I do not trust this situation, not even a little. I know what being set up feels like.
Glad to almost be an official 500 clubber....thanks, @earlcampbell!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2019 17:20:31 GMT -5
Whatever is going on, I have been 56-66% winrate for a couple of weeks now, gone is the usual beat down cycle......and my numbers are just crazy. I know my 9/10 hangar is not very strong, barely a low champs hangar....yet today, I feel like I can’t lose, lol One thing is for sure and for certain....I do not trust this situation, not even a little. I know what being set up feels like. Glad to almost be an official 500 clubber....thanks, @earlcampbell! Thanks!!! Yes indeed, the 500 Au task club is recruiting!!! Join up with us, the born again F2P Until this soup sammich freak show tones down the monetization mess, NO PAY!!!!
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Post by linearblade on Dec 8, 2019 17:29:30 GMT -5
Players are in decline due to the culmination of ares Ao Jun and leeches not Titans. Titans might be boring for some, but hardly chasing anyone away. Pixonic simply jumped the shark with their ridiculous pricing and inability to keep up with hyper inflation. And thatâ??s how hyper inflation works. See Venezuela or Zimbabwe Agreed and add PS in that mix of Pix ?fluffernutter? ups. Iâ??ve come across brutal Titans twice, Ao Mings leveled in the 20s. And even then, the only reason they were an issue is because I was running my Alt hanger. At $2500-3000 per bot to max out, I think Pix has finally found an Edison moment. Titans arenâ??t a business Fail, they are a Success in finding a way that Whales wonâ??t spend money. Lmao, just cracking myself up here, move along...move along, nothing to see here. I’ve come across a few leveled Ao Ming. Not strong without support. With support, it’s mostly annoying, but not so much. As for kid, I’m just leveling base speed up to 40. I’m actually getting decent kills wit it, My main problem these days is the dodgy internet. Everything skips around.
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Post by aaronc on Dec 8, 2019 17:33:59 GMT -5
Agreed and add PS in that mix of Pix ?fluffernutter? ups. Iâ??ve come across brutal Titans twice, Ao Mings leveled in the 20s. And even then, the only reason they were an issue is because I was running my Alt hanger. At $2500-3000 per bot to max out, I think Pix has finally found an Edison moment. Titans arenâ??t a business Fail, they are a Success in finding a way that Whales wonâ??t spend money. Lmao, just cracking myself up here, move along...move along, nothing to see here. Right now lets put ourselves in the shoes of a player with 5 maxed leeches all the bells and whistles you could want, I would bet 99/100 times you're not even botting out to begin with, and why spawn a titan when you have another leech? If you don't already have a leech why would you buy a titan instead of a leech, and why would you level a titan instead of a leech, it Makes no sense for whales and makes no sense for ftp players who won't just start throwing exorbitant amounts of money at the game for something that wont help them. I played in this very game the other day. guy on my side had 4 Max leeches, 1 Max Phantom and a lvl 44 Ao Ming. It was TD and the Titan didnt get into the game. Player had 15 kills so I'm guessing it was well and truly charged!
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Post by T34 on Dec 8, 2019 18:30:16 GMT -5
Titans look like a trap: Inflate your league score relative to those that don't play Titans for the privilege of playing at a higher league, but titans don't look anymore engaging from a game-play perspective than a Leo. I suspect the presence of titans narrows the power gap between weak and strong players at this point in time. Strong players are not as likely to deploy titans as the weaker ones from what I’ve seen. This narrows the power gap by the weaker players having an additional decent bot on the field. With time titans will be upgraded and the disparity will be re-established and possibly pushed out further. In the mean time, low powered players using titans will be accelerated towards the Champions League MM-ing zone. Once in the Champions League MM-ing zone there is no way back down.
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Post by runamok on Dec 8, 2019 19:53:24 GMT -5
Pix have said, somewhere - don't recall where, that the iOS player base is getting smaller. Which I guess is the reason for the apparent setting up of cross platform games. I guess it depends on Android. If their player base is getting smaller as well, then eventually the game will die.
I doubt the aggressive monetization is helping matters, but the matchmaking must be putting people off. The runs of beatdowns due to the 'must keep them at 50%' design gets wearing after a while. For that to continue from Diamond and up - you'd really have to have think skin. Add in lag, bugs, tankers, dire currency income, awful economy, mass adverts, not forgetting the league design which seem to push you up, and they don't really have a winning formula.
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Post by linearblade on Dec 8, 2019 19:56:16 GMT -5
Pix have said, somewhere - don't recall where, that the iOS player base is getting smaller. Which I guess is the reason for the apparent setting up of cross platform games. I guess it depends on Android. If their player base is getting smaller as well, then eventually the game will die. I doubt the aggressive monetization is helping matters, but the matchmaking must be putting people off. The runs of beatdowns due to the 'must keep them at 50%' design gets wearing after a while. For that to continue from Diamond and up - you'd really have to have think skin. Add in lag, bugs, tankers, dire currency income, awful economy, mass adverts, not forgetting the league design which seem to push you up, and they don't really have a winning formula. Scams always come to an end, then companies find Jesus and proceed to balance again.
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Post by Replicant on Dec 8, 2019 20:19:05 GMT -5
Titans look like a trap: Inflate your league score relative to those that don't play Titans for the privilege of playing at a higher league, but titans don't look anymore engaging from a game-play perspective than a Leo. I suspect the presence of titans narrows the power gap between weak and strong players at this point in time. Strong players are not as likely to deploy titans as the weaker ones from what I’ve seen. This narrows the power gap by the weaker players having an additional decent bot on the field. With time titans will be upgraded and the disparity will be re-established and possibly pushed out further. In the mean time, low powered players using titans will be accelerated towards the Champions League MM-ing zone. Once in the Champions League MM-ing zone there is no way back down. I agree, and its great for those of us who intentionally play a "weak" hanger.
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Post by orionpax on Dec 8, 2019 21:48:41 GMT -5
Right now lets put ourselves in the shoes of a player with 5 maxed leeches all the bells and whistles you could want, I would bet 99/100 times you're not even botting out to begin with, and why spawn a titan when you have another leech? If you don't already have a leech why would you buy a titan instead of a leech, and why would you level a titan instead of a leech, it Makes no sense for whales and makes no sense for ftp players who won't just start throwing exorbitant amounts of money at the game for something that wont help them. As I’ve mentioned in other threads, Titan spending will be mostly isolated to the full Whale on Whale clans that already have maxed out Leech suckfest. Once Rubicon or CDxx or NOOB or CHN, etc. start dropping Benjamins on Titans...look out! Whale Clan 1 - We are going to kill you to infinity. Whale Cla 2 - Oh yeah, well WE are going to kill you to infinity + 1. Whale Clan 1 - Nuh uh, we will kill you to infinity + 2. Whale Clan 2 - OK, then we will kill you to infinity plus INFINITY. Whale Clan 1 - Oh sure you will, but not until we kill you infinity TIMES infinity! Me - Uh, I just started leveling up my only Rime to 10mk1 right on top of my lvl 9Mk1 Loki...pew pew pew....run away! . Yeah your clan list matches mine. As my mother used to say “ if you don’t have anything nice to say”. ??
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