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Post by War Child on Mar 16, 2017 8:14:28 GMT -5
From the comments I've observed, players are using the league sytem by ditching down matches to reach lower tiers.I knew that it was a thing already but I too realized that it was still going on even after the leagues were implemented.Many players are probably running brit bots around which are a tough nut to crack for me yet and maybe for the newbies too.So I'll just be suggesting one simple solution,add penalties that will force premium bots farther away from the new crowd(at least it will balance the game a bit).
The penalty will only work on the brit bots and the fury(I'm looking at the ones carrying bazookas in a gunfight)(and maybe the dash).The penalty will raise the player a tier or two higher if they have those bots/weapons on the bot leveled to a specific lvl.Don't worry as this penalty will only affect silver and below.
So what are your thoughts and please do state suggestions if you have any.I'm ok if you don't like this idea just don't start a flame war.
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Post by mechtout on Mar 16, 2017 8:43:36 GMT -5
get used to it, as you progress you'll eventually have no choice playing overpowering bots unless you ditch games yourself. its the nature of the beast for War Robots now. I say level up some pinatas and start melting those brit bots away.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 8:58:10 GMT -5
The biggest failure of this system was the lack of the implementation of a leveled factor in a game where there are large varying differences between levels.
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 16, 2017 9:30:46 GMT -5
The biggest failure of this system was the lack of the implementation of a leveled factor in a game where there are large varying differences between levels. If you did it without a few months of data then it would be the same nonsense you had before. Honestly the issue is that that there is reward in the form of gold in clubbing... the leagues aren't the problem the imbalanced incentives are.
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Post by ed209 on Mar 17, 2017 21:50:02 GMT -5
Ive been playing for nearly 2 years and the league system definately sucks, its soo unbalanced now even good bot setups, tactics and even squads do not help. Has anyone at pixonic ever played clash of clans? That game is rife with cheaters. Leagues suck, you have to go by hangar strength to fight fair. incentives are just the beginning, some people just like to harrass easier targets. Things like this disasterous crap make me wish i hadnt spent money on this game and i am not spending another dime til this crap is cleaned back up. As far as the old system i never had a problem a year ago you just have to develop strategies to get the upper hand but now that doesnt help.
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Post by odin63 on Mar 17, 2017 23:47:47 GMT -5
The biggest failure of this system was the lack of the implementation of a leveled factor in a game where there are large varying differences between levels. If you did it without a few months of data then it would be the same nonsense you had before. Honestly the issue is that that there is reward in the form of gold in clubbing... the leagues aren't the problem the imbalanced incentives are. If the leagues worked for everyone the way they're supposed to, it would be a decent system. Some (maybe even many,) are seeing great and even matches. However, I am not seeing that at all. I've been pretty consistently at diamond 1 since the leagues began (never higher,) and I am repeatedly playing against expert, masters, and even champion leaguers. Squadding with my clan hasn't really helped either. We're all seeing the same thing. I'm also seeing a lot of players with 12/12s at diamond level, so they're obviously tanking their matches to get favorable draws. If the leagues were based on hanger strength alone, then players couldn't easily manipulate their stats and skill would finally and rightfully determine most of the game outcomes. I do occasionally find myself in some really close and fun matches, but the mounting losses are very frustrating to say the least. I've sent a couple of bug reports, but all I've gotten are automated responses--with (oddly,) a plea to keep the comments coming...?
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 17, 2017 23:53:10 GMT -5
I hate new system that rewards sausage flingers over every other wep type. Pix sux
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 17, 2017 23:55:14 GMT -5
If you did it without a few months of data then it would be the same nonsense you had before. Honestly the issue is that that there is reward in the form of gold in clubbing... the leagues aren't the problem the imbalanced incentives are. If the leagues worked for everyone the way they're supposed to, it would be a decent system. Some (maybe even many,) are seeing great and even matches. However, I am not seeing that at all. I've been pretty consistently at diamond 1 since the leagues began (never higher,) and I am repeatedly playing against expert, masters, and even champion leaguers. Squadding with my clan hasn't really helped either. We're all seeing the same thing. I'm also seeing a lot of players with 12/12s at diamond level, so they're obviously tanking their matches to get favorable draws. If the leagues were based on hanger strength alone, then players couldn't easily manipulate their stats and skill would finally and rightfully determine most of the game outcomes. I do occasionally find myself in some really close and fun matches, but the mounting losses are very frustrating to say the least. I've sent a couple of bug reports, but all I've gotten are automated responses--with (oddly,) a plea to keep the comments coming...? Diamond 1 as well. Seeing exactly the same thing. Most matches are lost in the first 1min. Usually by idiots. I did maybe 30 matches today. Won maybe 6 of them. Mostly losing to missile splash meta builds.
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 18, 2017 2:18:50 GMT -5
Hey odin63 and missleboatssuckWhat platform are the two of you on? I see this sort of behavior on android down in silver during odd hours (midnight PST). I got even money that says your both on IOS (but I have been wrong before). Honestly after the match I just had, I'm tempted to start collecting data and build a monte carlo simulation to prove out that MM is borked, and doubly so under the new system.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 9:25:28 GMT -5
I hate new system that rewards sausage flingers over every other wep type. Pix sux Just looked through the top 10 players in the legends league. Out of 50 bots, only 1 had missiles. So either they have mad missile dodging skills, or missiles just aren't that great. Most if not all had Galahad/lance plasma based.
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Post by odin63 on Mar 18, 2017 12:10:46 GMT -5
Hey odin63 and missleboatssuck What platform are the two of you on? I see this sort of behavior on android down in silver during odd hours (midnight PST). I got even money that says your both on IOS (but I have been wrong before). Honestly after the match I just had, I'm tempted to start collecting data and build a monte carlo simulation to prove out that MM is borked, and doubly so under the new system. I'm on IOS, so you may be right. Be interesting to see what you find.
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