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Post by loren on Mar 16, 2017 13:28:58 GMT -5
I do not have any issues with the production bots listed. The Proto seems like the Gepard/Mag replacement, and if it has a small ancile, then regardless of bot size it will have it's own class. It seems like a fast moving payload heavy damage bot. The thought of moving 3 Orkans or Tarans that fast around the map will be interesting. With the current bots available I don't think we are going to have a good counter to it. The Rog, ironically enough, I have found to be an excellent counter. It has the speed and acrobatics you need to compete with the dash and if you are careful to engage down narrow site lines through cover (like the buildings in springfield) the superior corner shoot and gun placement on the Rog can win  I have watched enough of your video's to know that you could probably do it in a Destrier armed with a broken bottle. Now with the Rog's left and right mount points shooting from cover cover will be nice, right up until the Dash pilot notices you. The problem I see with the Dash is the bots ability to close the gap quickly, dump its 「whiskey tango foxtrot」 payload and disapear around the next corner waiting for reload. That kind of fire power with the ability of a built in ancile aaaaand the dash ability seems a little out of sorts. I am sure it will be released as an OP bot to begin with, draw in a bunch of people to buy it and then balance it like the Gepard. Since I like the faster smaller bots I am looking forward to piloting this thing in a production setting, for me this bot represents the needed knife in the back for the Trident Fury. |
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 16, 2017 17:39:38 GMT -5
I appreciate the compliment, and I do agree the "Dash" is a powerful opponent. I have had the opportunity to pilot every version of the Dash along the way and to be honest I feel the 4/5s cooldown faster dash with only 2 weapons was the more OP than the MKII even with the 3rd hardpoint and Ancile. I felt as untouchable as Neo in that thing. The MKII is by no means untouchable and is no worse really than dealing with a Carnage or Fujin which are also bots that require a specific strategy to engage and will likely toast you in open 1 on 1 combat. I wouldn't charge into the open in front of a triple Taran Fujin or PDB Griffin and I wouldn't suggest you do that vs. a Dash either. I would like to see the 2 hard point dash with no ancile return with the same land speed as a Gareth and the Dash cooldown set to 7s so that you cannot "dash" away from 2 aphid/rocket salvos in a row. I feel Pix should also release the MKII with slightly lower speed and health, make the Dash distance longer but increase the cooldown to 15s giving time for close range counter attack. That will help position it more as a slower heavier hitting option that could provide some more excitement to mid range play. And while they are at it, they can give the ROG stealth while jumping so that I can take "Uptown" out of the garage, get him an oil change and get him back in the air where he belongs. He will remind those Dash's who the original Taran express is |
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GI. Patton
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Favorite robot: Gareth w/ Taran, Aphids
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Post by 88generalblue on Mar 16, 2017 23:07:51 GMT -5
Of course some of them are OP, and not only that, but I’d add that it is a very normal and deliberate strategy by Pix. Gareth is OP and the goal is to sell them for them to become as frequent as Gepard. Having a very strong shield (for a light) was already a major advantage on the Gepard, but having more speed also was really overkill. Now Gareth is basically a light with heavy-like fighting abilities. Galahad is OP also, although relatively speaking, less than the Gareth. Gareth is actually not that far from the Galahad ability while costing twice less. Oddly, Lancelot is not that OP. Yes it is a beast with an Ancile, but we are talking about a 6’500 gold built. More if you put Orkans. At that price, I’d say it’s quite normal that you would get a very strong robot. But take a normal build and the Lancelot is more or less in its place. In general, one must understand that the newer is the bot, the bigger is the risk is that it is OP. It is necessary at first. As for the Griffin, well, it depends how you define OP. For me it would be more underpriced than OP. It’s a silver heavy with gold-like abilities. what do you know about Gary? you're just a carnage humph, |
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Post by carnage on Mar 17, 2017 3:33:03 GMT -5
Ah ha, ironically I don’t even have a Carnage, I could buy only one WSB so far and I took the Rhino.
Leo, Naty and Rhino are the three locks in my garage, the 4th slot changing depending on the mood.
I am currently saving for the 5th slot in which I would put a Carnage but that’s a loooong grind. |
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Post by SATmaster728 on Mar 17, 2017 6:39:32 GMT -5
Of course some of them are OP, and not only that, but I’d add that it is a very normal and deliberate strategy by Pix. Gareth is OP and the goal is to sell them for them to become as frequent as Gepard. Having a very strong shield (for a light) was already a major advantage on the Gepard, but having more speed also was really overkill. Now Gareth is basically a light with heavy-like fighting abilities. Galahad is OP also, although relatively speaking, less than the Gareth. Gareth is actually not that far from the Galahad ability while costing twice less. Oddly, Lancelot is not that OP. Yes it is a beast with an Ancile, but we are talking about a 6’500 gold built. More if you put Orkans. At that price, I’d say it’s quite normal that you would get a very strong robot. But take a normal build and the Lancelot is more or less in its place. In general, one must understand that the newer is the bot, the bigger is the risk is that it is OP. It is necessary at first. As for the Griffin, well, it depends how you define OP. For me it would be more underpriced than OP. It’s a silver heavy with gold-like abilities. what do you know about Gary? you're just a carnage humph, a carnage and gary should be played with about the same sneakiness. |
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 17, 2017 14:55:50 GMT -5
what do you know about Gary? you're just a carnage humph, a carnage and gary should be played with about the same sneakiness. "These go to eleven" |
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