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Post by kamikazejohnson on Nov 8, 2019 0:16:25 GMT -5
In my opinion, playing In the legend league with all raijin/ Lancelot, until as far as the pre leech , I can say those 2 bots are by far the most deadly. I am also running a fujin now, which appears to be legend capable. I've been wondering about Fujin since the last buff...didn't it get a DR boost in Sentry Mode now? |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 8, 2019 0:22:07 GMT -5
In my opinion, playing In the legend league with all raijin/ Lancelot, until as far as the pre leech , I can say those 2 bots are by far the most deadly. I am also running a fujin now, which appears to be legend capable. I've been wondering about Fujin since the last buff...didn't it get a DR boost in Sentry Mode now? Yes. I’m still learning it, but it is freakishly strong for what it does.. even against most plasma. I’m only running with punishers, and using Quantum Radar (both of which I feel may be sub optimal) I want to try it with 3x pulsar or wasp (ideal) before passing judgment . It readily takes mercury / non purpled ares (or purple with breaker), deflects most of the Ao Jun fire on avengers setups. Strong vs phantoms (no joke. Must be the angle?) etc etc |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 8, 2019 2:07:08 GMT -5
I run a thunder/gust/pinata Leo w/ mechanic. I rarely use green crack on this thing. I simply walk up to them and drop the payload of he?? out of anything. It took out a full health lance yesterday. (FYI: I’m in silver league so my opinion is really unimportant in champs) I prefer me Leo to be of the leadhose variety with Lockdown Ammo. At 12mk2 with L10 weps it's taken a few by surprise. And your opinion is important. Agreed... while many threads and posts come from a high champs POV... much of the game is below that. I play in Masters and see a bit of everything: mixed bots and levels from Griff to Leech... to top level Meta Squads Mk2-ed and straight hoovering the green crack. I see various bots do well that high champ posters swear couldn’t last a minute. So... while the Champ POV is probably the loudest here on the forum... there are plenty who aren’t in champs and, like me, don’t want to be. As long as you don’t assume that your games represent the entire game then it’s cool. Cheers for posting your experiences! IMO, YMMV |
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Post by BB on Nov 8, 2019 8:39:15 GMT -5
Not sure that this qualifies as VIABLE IN CHAMP, but this just happened  using this hangar  soooooooooo............please edit your silly list ?.....carry on Sincerely The few, the proud, the ROG drivers |
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Nov 8, 2019 9:27:15 GMT -5
Not sure that this qualifies as VIABLE IN CHAMP, but this just happened using this hangar soooooooooo............please edit your silly list ?.....carry on Sincerely The few, the proud, the ROG drivers That wasn't a game, that was a glitch in the Matrix. |
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Post by RightOn on Nov 8, 2019 9:38:30 GMT -5
I've been wondering about Fujin since the last buff...didn't it get a DR boost in Sentry Mode now? Yes. Iâm still learning it, but it is freakishly strong for what it does.. even against most plasma. Iâm only running with punishers, and using Quantum Radar (both of which I feel may be sub optimal) I want to try it with 3x pulsar or wasp (ideal) before passing judgment . It readily takes mercury / non purpled ares (or purple with breaker), deflects most of the Ao Jun fire on avengers setups. Strong vs phantoms (no joke. Must be the angle?) etc etc Fujin got DR? Lol 「whiskey tango foxtrot」? |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 8, 2019 10:51:04 GMT -5
Yes. Iâ??m still learning it, but it is freakishly strong for what it does.. even against most plasma. Iâ??m only running with punishers, and using Quantum Radar (both of which I feel may be sub optimal) I want to try it with 3x pulsar or wasp (ideal) before passing judgment . It readily takes mercury / non purpled ares (or purple with breaker), deflects most of the Ao Jun fire on avengers setups. Strong vs phantoms (no joke. Must be the angle?) etc etc Fujin got DR? Lol ?whiskey tango foxtrot?? Yea man. Dr 30 pts in bubble mode. If you stack that up with his insane shield and bubble regeneration it’s quite strong Say against a sporkan. He’s not capable of breaking you. Even does remarkably well versus phantoms and invaders , and other gust-like builds. Against Ao Jun/avenger, your basically eating just his flame gun. It’s not amazingly strong. But in some situations it’s awefully “ares like” |
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Post by babypoppy on Nov 8, 2019 12:44:20 GMT -5
I run a thunder/gust/pinata Leo w/ mechanic. I rarely use green crack on this thing. I simply walk up to them and drop the payload of he?? out of anything. It took out a full health lance yesterday. (FYI: I’m in silver league so my opinion is really unimportant in champs) I prefer me Leo to be of the leadhose variety with Lockdown Ammo. At 12mk2 with L10 weps it's taken a few by surprise. And your opinion is important. Mk2 with energy gunshots is nasty too. |
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Post by RightOn on Nov 8, 2019 13:30:32 GMT -5
Fujin got DR? Lol ?whiskey tango foxtrot?? Yea man. Dr 30 pts in bubble mode. If you stack that up with his insane shield and bubble regeneration it’s quite strong Say against a sporkan. He’s not capable of breaking you. Even does remarkably well versus phantoms and invaders , and other gust-like builds. Against Ao Jun/avenger, your basically eating just his flame gun. It’s not amazingly strong. But in some situations it’s awefully “ares like” Interesting. It's awfully tempting to buy one, it's only 5M, and I have just enough (4500) gold to buy 3 tarans. Plus it's all tier 2, meaning about 25M Ag to level the whole thing to 8. Meanwhile I won't even finish fourth hangar for a solid 6 months, so I can tool with it. The downside is I would lose progress to 5th hangar, which I intend on filling out with legacy bots anyway. I can still build a punisher fujin though. The legacy is the only hangar I will take to 10-12, Nothing will be tier 3 or 4. |
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Post by Phycoshot on Nov 8, 2019 13:54:47 GMT -5
Spun a random skill for my rog on a pilot from the operations, and I got wonderworker, time to take it out with some storms.
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Post by linearblade on Nov 8, 2019 21:34:05 GMT -5
Yea man. Dr 30 pts in bubble mode. If you stack that up with his insane shield and bubble regeneration it’s quite strong Say against a sporkan. He’s not capable of breaking you. Even does remarkably well versus phantoms and invaders , and other gust-like builds. Against Ao Jun/avenger, your basically eating just his flame gun. It’s not amazingly strong. But in some situations it’s awefully “ares like” Interesting. It's awfully tempting to buy one, it's only 5M, and I have just enough (4500) gold to buy 3 tarans. Plus it's all tier 2, meaning about 25M Ag to level the whole thing to 8. Meanwhile I won't even finish fourth hangar for a solid 6 months, so I can tool with it. The downside is I would lose progress to 5th hangar, which I intend on filling out with legacy bots anyway. I can still build a punisher fujin though. The legacy is the only hangar I will take to 10-12, Nothing will be tier 3 or 4. I use punishers on it. They are solid. I will eventually switch to wasps |
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Post by foxypotato on Nov 8, 2019 21:45:22 GMT -5
Interesting. It's awfully tempting to buy one, it's only 5M, and I have just enough (4500) gold to buy 3 tarans. Plus it's all tier 2, meaning about 25M Ag to level the whole thing to 8. Meanwhile I won't even finish fourth hangar for a solid 6 months, so I can tool with it. The downside is I would lose progress to 5th hangar, which I intend on filling out with legacy bots anyway. I can still build a punisher fujin though. The legacy is the only hangar I will take to 10-12, Nothing will be tier 3 or 4. I use punishers on it. They are solid. I will eventually switch to wasps How does it do against bots and weapons of the same level? Anything MK2 seems impressive when it is up against MK1. I'm looking to level a Fujin up to level 9 or 10 and running Tulumbas or Punishers on it in my Ag hangar. I've passed on the Fujin before because a stationary bot with low HP and an Ancile shield in energy weapon meta didn't seem like a good idea. I need an excuse to level a Fujin up and I want to play the Ag hangar again.  |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 8, 2019 22:31:05 GMT -5
I use punishers on it. They are solid. I will eventually switch to wasps How does it do against bots and weapons of the same level? Anything MK2 seems impressive when it is up against MK1. I'm looking to level a Fujin up to level 9 or 10 and running Tulumbas or Punishers on it in my Ag hangar. I've passed on the Fujin before because a stationary bot with low HP and an Ancile shield in energy weapon meta didn't seem like a good idea. I need an excuse to level a Fujin up and I want to play the Ag hangar again. Seems really to do ok. You gotta keep in mind tho. Punishers are 30m to max. They are SUPPOSED to be stronger. So when we talk equal level, are we talking equal Ag investment? Because my all in fujin cost me 220m to compete with champion bots clocking in at 1billion ag ++ each to compete. Or are you asking , how does mk2 punisher fujin compare to mk2 punisher Ao Jun or fenrir? In this case, I would say 1) fujin is situational. Sometimes you just die . Planning is important. 2) it can readily tank certain setups (avenger Ao Jun for instance, 「dookie」 gun builds . Lead hose legacy etc, spectre immunity) 3) with Quantum Radar, non Ao Jun stealth builds can be defeated What it doesnât take : multiple ember, point blank lockdown guns Last stand (canât walk through take seconds of hell like a raijin can, much less 5) |
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Post by foxypotato on Nov 9, 2019 0:42:53 GMT -5
How does it do against bots and weapons of the same level? Anything MK2 seems impressive when it is up against MK1. I'm looking to level a Fujin up to level 9 or 10 and running Tulumbas or Punishers on it in my Ag hangar. I've passed on the Fujin before because a stationary bot with low HP and an Ancile shield in energy weapon meta didn't seem like a good idea. I need an excuse to level a Fujin up and I want to play the Ag hangar again. Seems really to do ok. You gotta keep in mind tho. Punishers are 30m to max. They are SUPPOSED to be stronger. So when we talk equal level, are we talking equal Ag investment? Because my all in fujin cost me 220m to compete with champion bots clocking in at 1billion ag ++ each to compete. Or are you asking , how does mk2 punisher fujin compare to mk2 punisher Ao Jun or fenrir? In this case, I would say 1) fujin is situational. Sometimes you just die . Planning is important. 2) it can readily tank certain setups (avenger Ao Jun for instance, ?dookie? gun builds . Lead hose legacy etc, spectre immunity) 3) with Quantum Radar, non Ao Jun stealth builds can be defeated What it doesnâ??t take : multiple ember, point blank lockdown guns Last stand (canâ??t walk through take seconds of hell like a raijin can, much less 5) My bots and weapons in my Ag hangar are level 10. The Fujin would have to perform as well as my other Ag bots for me to consider it. I'm thinking about replacing my Leadhose Griffin with it. What are the mandatory pilot skills to get to run the bot? |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 9, 2019 1:59:19 GMT -5
Seems really to do ok. You gotta keep in mind tho. Punishers are 30m to max. They are SUPPOSED to be stronger. So when we talk equal level, are we talking equal Ag investment? Because my all in fujin cost me 220m to compete with champion bots clocking in at 1billion ag ++ each to compete. Or are you asking , how does mk2 punisher fujin compare to mk2 punisher Ao Jun or fenrir? In this case, I would say 1) fujin is situational. Sometimes you just die . Planning is important. 2) it can readily tank certain setups (avenger Ao Jun for instance, ?dookie? gun builds . Lead hose legacy etc, spectre immunity) 3) with Quantum Radar, non Ao Jun stealth builds can be defeated What it doesnâ??t take : multiple ember, point blank lockdown guns Last stand (canâ??t walk through take seconds of hell like a raijin can, much less 5) My bots and weapons in my Ag hangar are level 10. The Fujin would have to perform as well as my other Ag bots for me to consider it. I'm thinking about replacing my Leadhose Griffin with it. What are the mandatory pilot skills to get to run the bot? It will definitely outperform the griffin in this role. Shield regen is important, and the one with damage reduction, and then mechanic prolly follows. |
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Post by hizzie on Nov 9, 2019 11:29:24 GMT -5
I rock a pair of Lancelots and a Leo. Recently got pushed into Champion League. Ghost, Road Hog and Adamant Road Hog make Lancelot infinitely more playable. Currently grinding for Ag so I can MKII my Avenger. Building another Halo in workshop for my Strider.   |
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Post by krombopulouspichael on Nov 9, 2019 14:24:07 GMT -5
I would add Natasha and possibly Galahad to that list.
Natasha with either Dragoon Marquess or Viper Shredder is an absolute beast. It has more armor, firepower and versatility than a Fury (Marquess are stronger than Dragoon for their weight, and there are no mid-rangeish heavy lockdown weapons) although it lacks the extra module slot. Have scored quadruple-godlike with the Dragoon setup two separate times.
Galahad does well with Scourge Spark, Corona Shredder, or Taran Magnum. I once got a Godlike once with a Scourge Spark setup as my opening bot on Powerplant, killing a full-health Merc and then Ares, finishing off an Invader, and then killing a full health Redeemer Jun and Scourge Spectre, although Quantum Radar, flanking, and enemies blinded by their own hubris were probably more cause than Galahad himself. (This is Champ League btw)
And to add to your Leo entry, he is very setup-dependent, but I have had many bouts of success with him due to his tankiness and the fact that being as slow as a one-legged diabetic walking backwards cultures an ability to intuit where enemies will be long before they get there. Ember/Blaze/2xHalo or Exodus/Halo/Gust are my preferred loadouts due to splash and lockdown. I once scored 1.9 million damage with Leo(the Ember setup; only a plasma Galahad slightly helped contribute). Usually score no less than a triple-kill with it.
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Post by RightOn on Nov 15, 2019 14:38:30 GMT -5
I still need about 1600 Au to open 5th hangar, but I've already selected my legacy team.  It's soooo cheap to level too. I'll probably have everything at 10 by the time I get the meager gold  A lot of guns going on, but that's all there really is in legacy. Not a fan of tulumbas/tridents. I wanted ECU on Griffin but a las, it can't take one  Yeah gusts technically aren't legacy but they got nerfed! Rhino with gust depletes ancile/aegis, dumps orkans. I'd consider using storms here but I only have 1 spare. Besides, punis are underrated in melee, have more range, and are even cheaper to level. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 15:44:23 GMT -5
Not sure that this qualifies as VIABLE IN CHAMP, but this just happened using this hangar soooooooooo............please edit your silly list ?.....carry on Sincerely The few, the proud, the ROG drivers Sorry bud, you ain’t gonna start your own cult. |
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Nov 15, 2019 15:46:14 GMT -5
I still need about 1600 Au to open 5th hangar, but I've already selected my legacy team. It's soooo cheap to level too. I'll probably have everything at 10 by the time I get the meager gold A lot of guns going on, but that's all there really is in legacy. Not a fan of tulumbas/tridents. I wanted ECU on Griffin but a las, it can't take one Yeah gusts technically aren't legacy but they got nerfed! Rhino with gust depletes ancile/aegis, dumps orkans. I'd consider using storms here but I only have 1 spare. Besides, punis are underrated in melee, have more range, and are even cheaper to level. Griffins can absolutely take an ecu at the cost of a medium weapon. Remember ecu’s for Pix only knows what reason, are left and right handed. |
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Post by BB on Nov 15, 2019 17:57:46 GMT -5
Not sure that this qualifies as VIABLE IN CHAMP, but this just happened using this hangar soooooooooo............please edit your silly list ?.....carry on Sincerely The few, the proud, the ROG drivers Sorry bud, you ain’t gonna start your own cult. Not looking to there One Hover Guy |
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Post by RightOn on Nov 15, 2019 18:59:32 GMT -5
I still need about 1600 Au to open 5th hangar, but I've already selected my legacy team. It's soooo cheap to level too. I'll probably have everything at 10 by the time I get the meager gold A lot of guns going on, but that's all there really is in legacy. Not a fan of tulumbas/tridents. I wanted ECU on Griffin but a las, it can't take one Yeah gusts technically aren't legacy but they got nerfed! Rhino with gust depletes ancile/aegis, dumps orkans. I'd consider using storms here but I only have 1 spare. Besides, punis are underrated in melee, have more range, and are even cheaper to level. Griffins can absolutely take an ecu at the cost of a medium weapon. Remember ecu’s for Pix only knows what reason, are left and right handed. Lol no wonder I couldn't get it to work, but nah I won't lose the medium |
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Post by babypoppy on Nov 15, 2019 19:13:42 GMT -5
I would add Natasha and possibly Galahad to that list. Natasha with either Dragoon Marquess or Viper Shredder is an absolute beast. It has more armor, firepower and versatility than a Fury (Marquess are stronger than Dragoon for their weight, and there are no mid-rangeish heavy lockdown weapons) although it lacks the extra module slot. Have scored quadruple-godlike with the Dragoon setup two separate times. Galahad does well with Scourge Spark, Corona Shredder, or Taran Magnum. I once got a Godlike once with a Scourge Spark setup as my opening bot on Powerplant, killing a full-health Merc and then Ares, finishing off an Invader, and then killing a full health Redeemer Jun and Scourge Spectre, although Quantum Radar, flanking, and enemies blinded by their own hubris were probably more cause than Galahad himself. (This is Champ League btw) And to add to your Leo entry, he is very setup-dependent, but I have had many bouts of success with him due to his tankiness and the fact that being as slow as a one-legged diabetic walking backwards cultures an ability to intuit where enemies will be long before they get there. Ember/Blaze/2xHalo or Exodus/Halo/Gust are my preferred loadouts due to splash and lockdown. I once scored 1.9 million damage with Leo(the Ember setup; only a plasma Galahad slightly helped contribute). Usually score no less than a triple-kill with it. Galahad is a confusing opponent in Champions. 80% of the time is someone from Masters. The other 20% of the time it might be highly leveled up and tough. That shield takes a lot of Avenger rounds... |
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Post by spartan44 on Nov 15, 2019 22:30:55 GMT -5
In my opinion, playineg In the legend league with all raijin/ Lancelot, until as far as the pre leech , I can say those 2 bots are by far the most deadly. I am also running a fujin now, which appears to be legend capable. Agreed. It can't be said strongly enough just how dominate a maxed Lance really is. It is borderline ridiculous. Some may scoff because they just don't know any better and it's sounds ludicrous. I'm at the top of the scoring board 90% of the time using 3 maxed lances in android Champions League. Other hangers are absolutely bursting with meta bots and they get outperformed badly. Storms, ember, and igniter are monstrous on the lance. Pair it with Phase shift, anti control and heavy armor and get ready to dominate. |
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Post by linearblade on Nov 15, 2019 23:52:01 GMT -5
In my opinion, playineg In the legend league with all raijin/ Lancelot, until as far as the pre leech , I can say those 2 bots are by far the most deadly. I am also running a fujin now, which appears to be legend capable. Agreed. It can't be said strongly enough just how dominate a maxed Lance really is. It is borderline ridiculous. Some may scoff because they just don't know any better and it's sounds ludicrous. I'm at the top of the scoring board 90% of the time using 3 maxed lances in android Champions League. Other hangers are absolutely bursting with meta bots and they get outperformed badly. Storms, ember, and igniter are monstrous on the lance. Pair it with Phase shift, anti control and heavy armor and get ready to dominate. It’s one of the few early game bots as well, that can reliably take a phantom. |
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A lot of guns going on, but that's all there really is in legacy. Not a fan of tulumbas/tridents. I wanted ECU on Griffin but a las, it can't take one 
