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Post by shun31 on Mar 14, 2017 9:04:59 GMT -5
Hi all, i need some advices for evolving my actual hangar. Here it is :  I got 1600 Au and 7500 WP and I hesitate in how spend it with efficiency. Actually my playstyle is based on beacon capture with shielded cossack : It is fun to keep 1, 2 or 3 ennemy bots on me while my team is pushing the line and dealing damage. I was wondering : Getting a Carnage 2x Thunder + 1 Orkan to my Griff and replace Leo (or Cossak) OR start build a 2nd Griff (x2 Taran 2x Aphid) and replace Golem OR get a Stalker for replacing Cossack OR wait for 2500 AU and buy a Galahad with Taran / Magnum and replace Golem OR wait for a Lancelot  I really don't know what to do  The thing is I like cossack and my mid-range Golem even if I know they will be no longer viable in higher league division Some advice ? |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 14, 2017 9:25:59 GMT -5
Get plasma first for a PDB griff (2 Tarans and 2 magnums). It is effective and cheap. Save the gold for slots but 2 orkans won't hurt either for DB griff as this will earn back it's cost easy.
Don't go for the stalker there are better options out there. The Carnage is a good deal if you already have all your plasma needs met.
The galahad or the Lance is after you get your 5th slot.
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Post by shun31 on Mar 14, 2017 9:36:04 GMT -5
Thank you ! But you mean a PDB griff for replacing Golem ?
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Mar 14, 2017 10:09:56 GMT -5
First off, match ranges with your griff - either build a rdb with pin/tulu or a db with pinata/orkans. Hybrid setups aren't good in the long run.
Then get that 5th slot. If you run a lance (or any other single bot) and I run 2 of almost anything reasonable I'll come out on top.
If you run the rdb that's your golem replacement, and the golem's pin means you only need one more pin.
Then a plasma griff to replace the golem- because you'll still use it for a long time as you climb the ranks, and because there aren't as many shield bots at your level it's more useful right now.
Then a galahad to replace the cossack, move the plasma to the galahad and turn the griff into a db with pinatas and orkans - galahad is fast enough when leveled to be a good capper. If you're really sold on speed, you could use that 5th slot for a Gareth or a stalker, but eventually you'll probably replace it with a fury of some kind once you work your way up through and past gold, but they're fun to play until then.
Finally the leo should be replaced w a lance that can use the leo's thunder.
A lot of this is long term advice, but what I would do next is get that 5th slot.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 14, 2017 12:11:35 GMT -5
Short term you need to replace that golem quick and should be your priority. I know the Cossack sucks but unless you spend gold for a Gary or WSP for a stalker there is no better option for capping.
Griffin for Golem is ideal if you have the weapons for it. 2 griffins per hangar is not that uncommon. Silver setup would be molot Griff or RDB.
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 14, 2017 13:35:09 GMT -5
Swapping a Boa for the Golem is a nice trade up. Played right a Thunder Ork/Taran/Punisher Boa will serve you well.
Here is a short fun video of a Boa showing why he is the king of low tiers....
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 14, 2017 14:19:24 GMT -5
Swapping a Boa for the Golem is a nice trade up. Played right a Thunder Ork/Taran/Punisher Boa will serve you well. Here is a short fun video of a Boa showing why he is the king of low tiers.... The golem seems to be really popular in lower tiers despite it's subpar performance. I think it's a matter of aesthetics. The Boa is just ugly despite being much better than the Golem. Despite being better though I still recommend saving for a Leo. |
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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 15, 2017 3:33:56 GMT -5
Swapping a Boa for the Golem is a nice trade up. Played right a Thunder Ork/Taran/Punisher Boa will serve you well. Here is a short fun video of a Boa showing why he is the king of low tiers.... The golem seems to be really popular in lower tiers despite it's subpar performance. I think it's a matter of aesthetics. The Boa is just ugly despite being much better than the Golem. Despite being better though I still recommend saving for a Leo. I think it might also be a matter of firepower. Low tier players have poor situational awareness and can take a few seconds to react to an attack. The golem brings more firepower to bear than the boa, which has higher odds of killing off those slow reacting foes before they shoot back. It's also super easy to level golems. |
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Post by shun31 on Mar 15, 2017 4:05:22 GMT -5
OK so I first started to build a PDB Griff and replace Golem : 1x Taran 1x Punisher MK2 2x Pinata.
But after several games I am not used to play it as the taran need continuous fire at close range so I am much more exposed. I guess i need more practice.
So to avoid losing to much I decided to replace the 2x Pinata with 2 Punisher : much better for me, it give to me more pressure and my taran is more effective. When I will get the second taran to replace the punisher MK2 I guess I will go back to pinata or magnum.
I also will give a try to Boa but I level up my Taran in priority
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Post by shun31 on Mar 16, 2017 6:09:53 GMT -5
So here is my new hanger :  I feel much better now : I deal more damage, I get more gold an my win ratio is increased. I am ready to climb next division, thanks for advices  |
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Post by suntron on Mar 16, 2017 6:24:58 GMT -5
I'd combine Pins with the tulumbas on the Griffin as they have the same range 500m while the pinata is only 300. Unless you plan to swap in Orkans for the tulumbas soon.
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Post by shun31 on Mar 16, 2017 7:28:27 GMT -5
I used to play he Griff 2x Pin 2x Tul but I finally switched to 2x pinata because it give to me more survivability in close range (on dead city map for example). And I dont play this griff as a 100% DB, I use to deal corner damage with one or 2 weapons. When I get my PDB Griff (second Griff) may be I will put 2x Pin on my 1st Griff, I will see. Finally I will save gold and not buy Orkan, as the tulumbas do the job quite well for now. We are always tempted to spend gold, but I think it is a mistake, just have to be patient  I am waiting for the new balance changes on punisher/molot before investing on gold items. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 8:21:52 GMT -5
I used to play he Griff 2x Pin 2x Tul but I finally switched to 2x pinata because it give to me more survivability in close range (on dead city map for example). And I dont play this griff as a 100% DB, I use to deal corner damage with one or 2 weapons. When I get my PDB Griff (second Griff) may be I will put 2x Pin on my 1st Griff, I will see. Finally I will save gold and not buy Orkan, as the tulumbas do the job quite well for now. We are always tempted to spend gold, but I think it is a mistake, just have to be patient I am waiting for the new balance changes on punisher/molot before investing on gold items. Buy your 5th slot. That never changes. |
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Post by shun31 on Mar 16, 2017 8:34:24 GMT -5
Yes I have to prepare myself to wait 5000 Au  I tell myself that 5th slot will be never impacted by balance change, so it is the best investment I can do ! |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 16, 2017 9:56:38 GMT -5
Yes I have to prepare myself to wait 5000 Au I tell myself that 5th slot will be never impacted by balance change, so it is the best investment I can do ! Waiting is hard. I got sidetracked by a Lance, 2 Orkans and an ancile. I'm now up to 2k and now that Galahd is looking mighty fine...  |
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I am waiting for the new balance changes on punisher/molot before investing on gold items.
