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Post by raidenii on Oct 18, 2019 14:57:37 GMT -5
Yeah....luckily I completed baking the TYR and Fenrir in WS. Time to level them up.
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Post by #1 worst pilot on Oct 18, 2019 15:01:36 GMT -5
All this garbage applies to level 12 anyway am I right?
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Post by foxypotato on Oct 18, 2019 15:02:31 GMT -5
Haechi is getting a buff. Where is the Carnage buff?
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Post by foxypotato on Oct 18, 2019 15:09:04 GMT -5
Why are they so afraid of buffing the Haechi as if all the whales will of a sudden bring their Haechi army back out. It’s currently so slow that when i see it coming around the corner behind cover I think is an Ancilot without Ghost. Then it just dies like nothing. These days anything slower than 45 kph has no business having lower than 180k hp at level 12 MK1. It’s amazing the disrespect towards the robot that probably made them the most money ever Because it was and still is OP compared to the bots that preceeded it. We demanded it be nerfed for ages and when we finally got it now we want it buffed. It's been nerfed into a semi balanced state. It should be left alone. If it is going to be buffed then the older bots need to be buffed too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 15:52:07 GMT -5
Why are they so afraid of buffing the Haechi as if all the whales will of a sudden bring their Haechi army back out. It’s currently so slow that when i see it coming around the corner behind cover I think is an Ancilot without Ghost. Then it just dies like nothing. These days anything slower than 45 kph has no business having lower than 180k hp at level 12 MK1. It’s amazing the disrespect towards the robot that probably made them the most money ever Because it was and still is OP compared to the bots that preceeded it. We demanded it be nerfed for ages and when we finally got it now we want it buffed. It's been nerfed into a semi balanced state. It should be left alone. If it is going to be buffed then the older bots need to be buffed too. Pretty sure mail.ru won’t start buffing all the older bots that we already have....no $$$ in it I sold my Ha Ha a long time ago...snail speed, and what, 75m dash? Wooohooo!
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Post by raidenii on Oct 18, 2019 16:00:26 GMT -5
Seriously, all bots that are weak should be buffed. This will make the game balanced and fun to play.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 16:39:58 GMT -5
My Dragoon Fury can always do with more damage ....and to think I almost sold my 4 shocktrains just before the Yan-di event - something evil inside me said "Don't do it" I still have 2 Haechi so they might get a run again with fortifier on them (this buff surprises me tbh although it could be a bait and switch to sell the latest ops pass with the new skin). I have been sitting on 2 x L1 Blaze so if I have enough time/resources I might look at them again.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Oct 18, 2019 17:38:27 GMT -5
Well thank God they left the Arbalest alone!!
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Oct 18, 2019 17:44:55 GMT -5
Well thank God they left the Arbalest alone!! Arbalest Ao Qin is already OP
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Post by NexusBlade on Oct 18, 2019 18:50:07 GMT -5
Oh look they're un-ruining Shocktrains, or possibly... it might be another "buff" that's actually a nerf in burst damage and dps/dpm like last time, wouldn't be surprised, and giving Haechi and kumiho buffs long past overdue, far too late to make a difference, might make running them slightly less futile, but the power creep has gone way too far at this point.
I might get on just to mess around with them for a game or 2 if they actually Buff these things, shocktrains were already my favorite weapon after all (hate me if you want, I don't care). Still won't be getting back into the game though, balance was not the only issue with the game, and these changes are far to minimal even in that category.
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Post by The VVatcher on Oct 18, 2019 19:01:16 GMT -5
Why are they so afraid of buffing the Haechi as if all the whales will of a sudden bring their Haechi army back out. It’s currently so slow that when i see it coming around the corner behind cover I think is an Ancilot without Ghost. Then it just dies like nothing. These days anything slower than 45 kph has no business having lower than 180k hp at level 12 MK1. It’s amazing the disrespect towards the robot that probably made them the most money ever Because it was and still is OP compared to the bots that preceeded it. We demanded it be nerfed for ages and when we finally got it now we want it buffed. It's been nerfed into a semi balanced state. It should be left alone. If it is going to be buffed then the older bots need to be buffed too. That can be said to all the bots being buffed like the Tyr and Kumiho. And a plethora of bots buffed before them like the suppression bots. Even with the original stats, it would suck at the current state of the game. It’s only 2 kph and 9k hp less than the original. This buff put its cooldown to what it used to be, I think. In perspective, Lancelot is better than Haechi right now. Bulgasari is faster too.
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Post by linearblade on Oct 18, 2019 19:39:39 GMT -5
All these silly buffs just to counter ( implicit vs explicit nerf) a couple existing overpowered bots
Stupidity defined
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Post by shivaswrath on Oct 18, 2019 21:28:33 GMT -5
All these silly buffs just to counter ( implicit vs explicit nerf) a couple existing overpowered bots Stupidity defined Especially the Tyr one. Upper Champions League won't grab this up because of a 20k.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 21:48:19 GMT -5
Schutze should get a DR and speed buff too
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Post by Shockwave on Oct 18, 2019 22:27:59 GMT -5
Seriously, all bots that are weak should be buffed. This will make the game balanced and fun to play. Fun doesn't generate money to Pixonic, You have to find your our way to have fun in this messy game.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Oct 18, 2019 23:44:02 GMT -5
The running speed of Fenrir is excellent for a tank of it's firepower. It runs faster than a base Weyland or Mender. It needs Ageis 30% stronger than max Bully.....regen speed ok with pilot skills....bigger hit pool works, too....and DR to 65% no it is plenty balanced enough, even one of the changes you listed would put it as the next meta bot. Fenrir is probably the most well balanced bot out there, although he is a twinge on the weak side he is still better than any other bot in balancing.
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Post by l》THE MACHINE《l on Oct 18, 2019 23:52:16 GMT -5
My Dragoon Fury can always do with more damage  ....and to think I almost sold my 4 shocktrains just before the Yan-di event - something evil inside me said "Don't do it"  I still have 2 Haechi so they might get a run again with fortifier on them (this buff surprises me tbh although it could be a bait and switch to sell the latest ops pass with the new skin). I have been sitting on 2 x L1 Blaze so if I have enough time/resources I might look at them again. GET. A. BEHEMOTH. God DAMN is a dragoon behemoth INSANE!!! Hey, who is that 600m away? Well, since the enemy team has 3 beacons and I just used deathmark, I will send my burst of 371,000 damage their way. No kidding the burst (within 5sec and only needing the enemy team to have 3 beacons) is almost 375,000!!! What you need: adrian, gunsmith, master gunsmith, adamant gunsmith, 3 maxed Thermonuclear Reactor, a deathmark, and 4 maxed dragoons. Also a message to pix that you aren't hacking and you are not deleting people from the game. Lol, dead serious though, three hundread and seventyone 「fluffernutter」ING THOUSAND damage, in a burst of 5 shots.
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Post by linearblade on Oct 19, 2019 0:00:12 GMT -5
It needs Ageis 30% stronger than max Bully.....regen speed ok with pilot skills....bigger hit pool works, too....and DR to 65% no it is plenty balanced enough, even one of the changes you listed would put it as the next meta bot. Fenrir is probably the most well balanced bot out there, although he is a twinge on the weak side he is still better than any other bot in balancing. Yes. But pix will twist it such that it will still be junk compared to actual meta, but somehow superior to legacy
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Post by mystic spastic on Oct 19, 2019 0:15:30 GMT -5
I think the Haechi needs to be restored to original release specs, this rebalance for it doesn't seem like enough. In a perfect world, Carnage, Fujin and Haechi would be able to purchase 2500 Au modules to turn their Ancile shields into Aegis shields.
As is, in a meta where omnipresent lockdown weapons pass right through energy shields, they could buff the Haechi's shield 1000% and it still wouldn't make much difference in usage.
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Post by The VVatcher on Oct 19, 2019 0:21:03 GMT -5
I think the Haechi needs to be restored to original release specs, this rebalance for it doesn't seem like enough. In a perfect world, Carnage and Haechi would be able to purchase 2500 Au modules to turn their energy shields into Aegis shields.
As is, in a meta where omnipresent lockdown weapons pass right through energy shields, they could buff the Haechi's shield 1000% and it still wouldn't make much difference in usage.
They really might as well turn all Ancile into Aegis. Considering the most used weapons either passes through it or crushes it: Corona, Halo, Storm, Avengers. And that’s just the cream of the crop, the next batch of best weapons also passes through it or crushes it.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Oct 19, 2019 0:35:25 GMT -5
In a perfect world, Carnage and Haechi would be able to purchase 2500 Au modules to turn their energy shields into Aegis shields.
As is, in a meta where omnipresent lockdown weapons pass right through energy shields, they could buff the Haechi's shield 1000% and it still wouldn't make much difference in usage.
They really might as well turn all Ancile into Aegis. Considering the most used weapons either passes through it or crushes it: Corona, Halo, Storm, Avengers. And that’s just the cream of the crop, the next batch of best weapons also passes through it or crushes it. 1) The upcoming Freeze weapons are (IIRC) Rocket weapons, so if they're good, they'll make Anciles desirable again. 2) Does Ancile block the Corrosion weapons? If so, a future buff will encourage Ancile Bots 3) I think a new "Firearm" weapon series is long overdue...Kinda like Kang Dae/Nashorn only, ya know, useful. If Pix actually did something like that, once again that would be great for Anciles, particularly if such a weapon was good vs DR.
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Post by The VVatcher on Oct 19, 2019 0:51:46 GMT -5
They really might as well turn all Ancile into Aegis. Considering the most used weapons either passes through it or crushes it: Corona, Halo, Storm, Avengers. And that’s just the cream of the crop, the next batch of best weapons also passes through it or crushes it. 1) The upcoming Freeze weapons are (IIRC) Rocket weapons, so if they're good, they'll make Anciles desirable again. 2) Does Ancile block the Corrosion weapons? If so, a future buff will encourage Ancile Bots 3) I think a new "Firearm" weapon series is long overdue...Kinda like Kang Dae/Nashorn only, ya know, useful. If Pix actually did something like that, once again that would be great for Anciles, particularly if such a weapon was good vs DR. It’s not really gonna encourage the use of it when Aegis does the exact same thing against those weapons and DR is better. Then there’s just the quality of Aegis and DR bots themselves just being better than Ancile bots, even if you strip them off their shields. Corrosion weapons? I know Viper goes through, but I always wondered if the small ones were kinetic. Are they? Agree on the “firearm” weapon. I always felt that missing in the game.
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Post by mystic spastic on Oct 19, 2019 0:51:49 GMT -5
They really might as well turn all Ancile into Aegis. Considering the most used weapons either passes through it or crushes it: Corona, Halo, Storm, Avengers. And that’s just the cream of the crop, the next batch of best weapons also passes through it or crushes it. 1) The upcoming Freeze weapons are (IIRC) Rocket weapons, so if they're good, they'll make Anciles desirable again. 2) Does Ancile block the Corrosion weapons? If so, a future buff will encourage Ancile Bots 3) I think a new "Firearm" weapon series is long overdue...Kinda like Kang Dae/Nashorn only, ya know, useful. If Pix actually did something like that, once again that would be great for Anciles, particularly if such a weapon was good vs DR. Anything that's not a physical projectile goes through ancile shields. I'm assuming the freeze ray weapons will do so as well.
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Post by kamikazejohnson on Oct 19, 2019 1:35:03 GMT -5
1) The upcoming Freeze weapons are (IIRC) Rocket weapons, so if they're good, they'll make Anciles desirable again. 2) Does Ancile block the Corrosion weapons? If so, a future buff will encourage Ancile Bots 3) I think a new "Firearm" weapon series is long overdue...Kinda like Kang Dae/Nashorn only, ya know, useful. If Pix actually did something like that, once again that would be great for Anciles, particularly if such a weapon was good vs DR. It’s not really gonna encourage the use of it when Aegis does the exact same thing against those weapons and DR is better. Then there’s just the quality of Aegis and DR bots themselves just being better than Ancile bots, even if you strip them off their shields. Corrosion weapons? I know Viper goes through, but I always wondered if the small ones were kinetic. Are they? Agree on the “firearm” weapon. I always felt that missing in the game. Ancile has one advantage over Aegis...you don't need to switch it off to recharge it.
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Post by nosinov on Oct 19, 2019 1:51:59 GMT -5
Schutze should get a DR and speed buff too Let's call component falcon.
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Post by orionpax on Oct 19, 2019 4:27:08 GMT -5
Rebalance list: Fenrir: +10% aegis regenerarion speed Tyr: When going to Support mode Tyr instantly repairs 20.000 durability in its range Haechi: +15% energy shield durability, -2 sec ability cooldown Kumiho: +15% durability Hussar: +10% damage Marquess: +10% damage Dragoon: +5% damage Shocktrain: +10% damage, 5 charges Blaze: +5% damage Does the Tyr ability instantly heal itself 20,000 hp?
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Post by TheDecepticonIdeal on Oct 19, 2019 5:06:57 GMT -5
Come on Pix, if you're throwing the Haechi (my mortal enemy) a bone, throw the Carnage one too. Pretty please.
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Post by AVC on Oct 19, 2019 5:42:13 GMT -5
I'll take a 'goon damage increase anyday!
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Post by Nitro on Oct 19, 2019 8:04:07 GMT -5
Y'all over here complaining about Tyr's ability and don't stop to consider that pix is likely doing this to sell Operation passes with the new ancient Tyr.
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Post by CravenSouls on Oct 19, 2019 8:10:02 GMT -5
Y'all over here complaining about Tyr's ability and don't stop to consider that pix is likely doing this to sell Operation passes with the new ancient Tyr. That's fine. I already have my Tyr and I'll take a buff. Anything to help me deal with maxed Phantoms.
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