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Post by hkang on Oct 18, 2019 9:57:35 GMT -5
Rebalance list:
Fenrir: +10% aegis regenerarion speed
Tyr: When going to Support mode Tyr instantly repairs 20.000 durability in its range
Haechi: +15% energy shield durability, -2 sec ability cooldown
Kumiho: +15% durability
Hussar: +10% damage
Marquess: +10% damage
Dragoon: +5% damage
Shocktrain: +10% damage, 5 charges
Blaze: +5% damage
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Post by Oliver Kloesov on Oct 18, 2019 10:03:56 GMT -5
"Buffy the Bot Slayer." Using past history, what are the odds of these being implemented in production?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 10:09:23 GMT -5
My Fenrir needs lots of love. Go TS!!!
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Post by Joopiter on Oct 18, 2019 10:14:42 GMT -5
My Fenrir needs lots of love. Go TS!!! Unfortunately it's not the shield regen speed that needs the love, it's the running speed. Good grief Pix, stop screwing with the shocktrains. I think that change nets a loss in damage, but just don't touch it. I hate seeing rebalance lists with shocktrain even on it... friggin idiots will never learn. Dear lord, they're buffing the marquess again? Didn't they get a 15% buff last rebalance. Those things hit hard already, but cost a fortune to upgrade. Ya know, I'd love to see an "Item Pricing Rebalance List". Marquess -$15 mil from lvl 11 to 12, -$11 mil from lvl 10 to 11, etc. |
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Post by Fry on Oct 18, 2019 10:18:30 GMT -5
I like these changes. I spent lots of resources on my Tyr, but it's still weak, let's see what happens.
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Post by Shockwave on Oct 18, 2019 10:21:20 GMT -5
Yes! Tyr and Haechi Buffs.
Not sure about Shocktrains being relevant again.
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Post by U Camp = I Camp on Oct 18, 2019 10:34:45 GMT -5
I think the Haechi needs to be restored to original release specs, this rebalance for it doesn't seem like enough.
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Post by hkang on Oct 18, 2019 10:40:18 GMT -5
Now with this buff, tyr would definitely the best healing bot in the game. Instant healing by 20k is no joke, and this will be a great plus to your damage score, and therefore higher silver payout.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 10:48:35 GMT -5
Well, I wouldn’t count my chickens before they hatch...
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Post by CrownBlack on Oct 18, 2019 10:56:54 GMT -5
My Fenrir needs lots of love. Go TS!!! Unfortunately it's not the shield regen speed that needs the love, it's the running speed. Good grief Pix, stop screwing with the shocktrains. I think that change nets a loss in damage, but just don't touch it. I hate seeing rebalance lists with shocktrain even on it... friggin idiots will never learn. Dear lord, they're buffing the marquess again? Didn't they get a 15% buff last rebalance. Those things hit hard already, but cost a fortune to upgrade. Ya know, I'd love to see an "Item Pricing Rebalance List". Marquess -$15 mil from lvl 11 to 12, -$11 mil from lvl 10 to 11, etc. ya just let those 「fluffernutter」ing shocktrains rest in peace already. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 11:00:58 GMT -5
Unfortunately it's not the shield regen speed that needs the love, it's the running speed. Good grief Pix, stop screwing with the shocktrains. I think that change nets a loss in damage, but just don't touch it. I hate seeing rebalance lists with shocktrain even on it... friggin idiots will never learn. Dear lord, they're buffing the marquess again? Didn't they get a 15% buff last rebalance. Those things hit hard already, but cost a fortune to upgrade. Ya know, I'd love to see an "Item Pricing Rebalance List". Marquess -$15 mil from lvl 11 to 12, -$11 mil from lvl 10 to 11, etc. ya just let those ?fluffernutter?ing shocktrains rest in peace already. Isn’t it funny how Pix brings new OP stuff in, then buffs the OP stuff they nerfed in the past? I guess this is why wise players have posted about not selling content....anything could make a comeback! |
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Post by Desc440 on Oct 18, 2019 11:02:30 GMT -5
As said, the regen speed of the Fenrir's shield is not what the issue is...
Also, if Tyr heals 20k each time it goes into support mode, you'll do more healing my continuously switching back and forther between assault and support mode than by staying in support mode. Doesn't really make sense.
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Post by CrownBlack on Oct 18, 2019 11:04:21 GMT -5
ya just let those ?fluffernutter?ing shocktrains rest in peace already. Isn’t it funny how Pix brings new OP stuff in, then buffs the OP stuff they nerfed in the past? I guess this is why wise players have posted about not selling content....anything could make a comeback! i hated them then and hate them now...but the game has become just sitting around and waiting 10-20 seconds for the cool down to end so the trains fit right into the play style of now. |
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Post by Joopiter on Oct 18, 2019 11:05:14 GMT -5
As said, the regen speed of the Fenrir's shield is not what the issue is... Also, if Tyr heals 20k each time it goes into support mode, you'll do more healing my continuously switching back and forther between assault and support mode than by staying in support mode. Doesn't really make sense. LOL, yeah I bet they didnt even realize that. So now they'll put a cooldown on switching modes. They seriously are clueless. |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Oct 18, 2019 11:07:32 GMT -5
Couldn't it be real easy to spam the 20K healing by switching the ability on and off? It only takes a bit more than a second to activate and deactivate it.
Also, can we buff Fujin yet?
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Oct 18, 2019 11:09:02 GMT -5
My Fenrir needs lots of love. Go TS!!! Unfortunately it's not the shield regen speed that needs the love, it's the running speed. Good grief Pix, stop screwing with the shocktrains. I think that change nets a loss in damage, but just don't touch it. I hate seeing rebalance lists with shocktrain even on it... friggin idiots will never learn. Dear lord, they're buffing the marquess again? Didn't they get a 15% buff last rebalance. Those things hit hard already, but cost a fortune to upgrade. Ya know, I'd love to see an "Item Pricing Rebalance List". Marquess -$15 mil from lvl 11 to 12, -$11 mil from lvl 10 to 11, etc. The running speed of Fenrir is excellent for a tank of it's firepower. It runs faster than a base Weyland or Mender. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 11:13:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately it's not the shield regen speed that needs the love, it's the running speed. Good grief Pix, stop screwing with the shocktrains. I think that change nets a loss in damage, but just don't touch it. I hate seeing rebalance lists with shocktrain even on it... friggin idiots will never learn. Dear lord, they're buffing the marquess again? Didn't they get a 15% buff last rebalance. Those things hit hard already, but cost a fortune to upgrade. Ya know, I'd love to see an "Item Pricing Rebalance List". Marquess -$15 mil from lvl 11 to 12, -$11 mil from lvl 10 to 11, etc. The running speed of Fenrir is excellent for a tank of it's firepower. It runs faster than a base Weyland or Mender. It needs Ageis 30% stronger than max Bully.....regen speed ok with pilot skills....bigger hit pool works, too....and DR to 65% |
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Post by Desc440 on Oct 18, 2019 11:23:09 GMT -5
As said, the regen speed of the Fenrir's shield is not what the issue is... Also, if Tyr heals 20k each time it goes into support mode, you'll do more healing my continuously switching back and forther between assault and support mode than by staying in support mode. Doesn't really make sense. LOL, yeah I bet they didnt even realize that. So now they'll put a cooldown on switching modes. They seriously are clueless. It took me all of 2 seconds to realise the problem with their idea... so yeah, pretty clueless. |
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Post by josh378 on Oct 18, 2019 11:25:06 GMT -5
Rebalance list: Fenrir: +10% aegis regenerarion speed Tyr: When going to Support mode Tyr instantly repairs 20.000 durability in its range Haechi: +15% energy shield durability, -2 sec ability cooldown Kumiho: +15% durability Hussar: +10% damage Marquess: +10% damage Dragoon: +5% damage Shocktrain: +10% damage, 5 charges Blaze: +5% damage Well dang, I might as well throw away my Wayland and mender. It's like they're trying to make tyr the de-facto robot to use for healing and support. Perfer faster Fenrir or more durability buff instead. Or make the agais more durable. |
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Post by The Doctor Is Out on Oct 18, 2019 11:39:53 GMT -5
Rebalance list: Fenrir: +10% aegis regenerarion speed Tyr: When going to Support mode Tyr instantly repairs 20.000 durability in its range Haechi: +15% energy shield durability, -2 sec ability cooldown Kumiho: +15% durability Hussar: +10% damage Marquess: +10% damage Dragoon: +5% damage Shocktrain: +10% damage, 5 charges Blaze: +5% damage Well dang, I might as well throw away my Wayland and mender. It's like they're trying to make tyr the de-facto robot to use for healing and support. Perfer faster Fenrir or more durability buff instead. Or make the agais more durable. It's because no one's going to slog through the Ops Pass without a major buff to Tyr. If Mender or Weyland was at the top of the Ops, they'd be getting the same treatment. Ao Jun needed no adjustment because everyone already know it's a broken as 「dookie」 bot. |
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Post by balrog89 on Oct 18, 2019 11:48:07 GMT -5
My Fenrir needs lots of love. Go TS!!! Unfortunately it's not the shield regen speed that needs the love, it's the running speed. Good grief Pix, stop screwing with the shocktrains. I think that change nets a loss in damage, but just don't touch it. I hate seeing rebalance lists with shocktrain even on it... friggin idiots will never learn. Dear lord, they're buffing the marquess again? Didn't they get a 15% buff last rebalance. Those things hit hard already, but cost a fortune to upgrade. Ya know, I'd love to see an "Item Pricing Rebalance List". Marquess -$15 mil from lvl 11 to 12, -$11 mil from lvl 10 to 11, etc. Dude, I feel you. Upgrade costs really need to be addressed.
I also cannot believe I am saying this, but I also agree with you on Shocktrains. I hated those weapons, but with the advent and proliferation of PS, I see 'Trains as a reasonable counter. They allow players to hit bots hard, instantly, before PS or special abilities can be activated. I am surprised I do not see more out there.
As far as the Fen, better speed would be nice, but a durability buff and fixing the DR bug would go a long way to convincing me to finally put mine in my line up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 11:52:37 GMT -5
Unfortunately it's not the shield regen speed that needs the love, it's the running speed. Good grief Pix, stop screwing with the shocktrains. I think that change nets a loss in damage, but just don't touch it. I hate seeing rebalance lists with shocktrain even on it... friggin idiots will never learn. Dear lord, they're buffing the marquess again? Didn't they get a 15% buff last rebalance. Those things hit hard already, but cost a fortune to upgrade. Ya know, I'd love to see an "Item Pricing Rebalance List". Marquess -$15 mil from lvl 11 to 12, -$11 mil from lvl 10 to 11, etc. Dude, I feel you. Upgrade costs really need to be addressed.
I also cannot believe I am saying this, but I also agree with you on Shocktrains. I hated those weapons, but with the advent and proliferation of PS, I see 'Trains as a reasonable counter. They allow players to hit bots hard, instantly, before PS or special abilities can be activated. I am surprised I do not see more out there.
As far as the Fen, better speed would be nice, but a durability buff and fixing the DR bug would go a long way to convincing me to finally put mine in my line up.
When I started playing 14 months ago, Spectre was just in sunset....ST were nasty.... I always wondered, after Pix castrated ST and Spec, why ST was still 99.99USD each.... Behold! The counter awaits! Pix is anything except clueless........ |
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Post by Garbage game on Oct 18, 2019 11:54:03 GMT -5
As said, the regen speed of the Fenrir's shield is not what the issue is... Also, if Tyr heals 20k each time it goes into support mode, you'll do more healing my continuously switching back and forther between assault and support mode than by staying in support mode. Doesn't really make sense. People are just gonna spam the mode swap like people switching between knife and gun in Counterstrike. |
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Post by balrog89 on Oct 18, 2019 12:03:14 GMT -5
Dude, I feel you. Upgrade costs really need to be addressed.
I also cannot believe I am saying this, but I also agree with you on Shocktrains. I hated those weapons, but with the advent and proliferation of PS, I see 'Trains as a reasonable counter. They allow players to hit bots hard, instantly, before PS or special abilities can be activated. I am surprised I do not see more out there.
As far as the Fen, better speed would be nice, but a durability buff and fixing the DR bug would go a long way to convincing me to finally put mine in my line up.
When I started playing 14 months ago, Spectre was just in sunset....ST were nasty.... I always wondered, after Pix castrated ST and Spec, why ST was still 99.99USD each.... Behold! The counter awaits! Pix is anything except clueless........ Dude, I absolutely hated the ST....still do. I still cuss every time I get hit by them. But if I were to be objective, I cannot see why more are not out there these days. They still hit somewhat hard and it is instant damage. I hate PS. ST can do whatever damage you were going to do to a bot, before PS is activated. Will I use ST? Prolly not. I just wonder why they aren't coming back. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 12:07:39 GMT -5
Did you overlook the 99.99USD part? Maybe 3 1/2 months in WS to outfit a Spec, same as Pulsar Spec....but, I’ve never seen ST giveaways nor on sale in offers...
Pix could make some quick cash.........I’d be tempted.....
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Post by The VVatcher on Oct 18, 2019 13:03:22 GMT -5
Why are they so afraid of buffing the Haechi as if all the whales will of a sudden bring their Haechi army back out.
It’s currently so slow that when i see it coming around the corner behind cover I think is an Ancilot without Ghost. Then it just dies like nothing.
These days anything slower than 45 kph has no business having lower than 180k hp at level 12 MK1.
It’s amazing the disrespect towards the robot that probably made them the most money ever
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Post by Replicant on Oct 18, 2019 13:47:18 GMT -5
As said, the regen speed of the Fenrir's shield is not what the issue is... Also, if Tyr heals 20k each time it goes into support mode, you'll do more healing my continuously switching back and forther between assault and support mode than by staying in support mode. Doesn't really make sense. Actually this makes perfect sense. Optimal healing will now require dynamic use of shape-shift as well as situational awareness to capture as many allied bots as possible during the burst. This would have been an improvement in the play-style even if they'd nerfed the sustained healing to keep over-all healing constant. Assuming Level 8 bots Mender 10,410 x4 / 23 seconds = 1,810 HpS Weyland 3,180 HpS Tyr 1,926 HpS vs. 20,000 / 1.5 (Shapeshift animation time + CD) The probably need to increase the aura HpS and reduce the pulse, but encouraging shapeshifting is a win. |
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Oct 18, 2019 14:04:26 GMT -5
As said, the regen speed of the Fenrir's shield is not what the issue is... Also, if Tyr heals 20k each time it goes into support mode, you'll do more healing my continuously switching back and forther between assault and support mode than by staying in support mode. Doesn't really make sense. Makes perfect sense. Crazy OP so players that don’t have Tyr will buy Ops Pass. About a month later, after everyone has spent game resources (and often RM) to get it leveled up, BAM, Pix realizes that they put the decimal point in the wrong place. Oops, sorry, we meant 2,000, not 20,000. Carry on. |
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Post by shivaswrath on Oct 18, 2019 14:20:18 GMT -5
Rebalance list: Fenrir: +10% aegis regenerarion speed Tyr: When going to Support mode Tyr instantly repairs 20.000 durability in its range Haechi: +15% energy shield durability, -2 sec ability cooldown Kumiho: +15% durability Hussar: +10% damage Marquess: +10% damage Dragoon: +5% damage Shocktrain: +10% damage, 5 charges Blaze: +5% damage They're rebuffing the haechi that they nerfed ages about by that much!!?? And the ST? What the hell.... |
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Post by milty72 on Oct 18, 2019 14:56:13 GMT -5
Just bring back Schutze, Boa and Golem. Add DR on special ability.
Oh that's right they have no 「go solo」y special ability. So just make it permanent DR against all component weapons.
Done?
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