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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 19:25:37 GMT -5
Accounting my experience over 5 matches in diamond 1.
My starting team, mostly griffs, i used my okran/pin griff. Lvl 6 with lvl 7 oaks/6 pins. Not a serious mech, just a stand in.
Squad: tt fury, griffs and one stalker. other than stalker, everyone missles.
My griff didn't last too long. Longer missles took me out. I switched to Lancelot, did some decent damage but eventually got cornered and blown up with missles.
Switched to plasmahad, lasted a while, saw 2 rhinos with oaks and dropped shield and ran the other way. I survived till end of match.
We lost. I got +3.
I promise not to talk about the 2 letters between LL and NN.
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 11, 2017 19:43:06 GMT -5
So the moral of the story is Missles..Got ya! You know where the rant board is, its where your last rage spam-gasam got booted to. I am not sure what you are trying to achieve.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 19:43:37 GMT -5
Match 2: I drop my Griff first. 3 others do as well, 1 trident carnage, one stalker.
My griff drops to fire from 2 other griffs, i maybe got one kill.
Other team fields Lancelots, carnages, more griffs with missles. I'm not seeing Leo's out at all.
I drop my plasmahad, lasts a while but drops to missles form a Lancelot.
I drop my Lancelot. Lasts till end, At the end I'm nearly half health, my entire team is on other side of map on right when i get to middle, I see a lone carnage/trident and close the distance. Taking 2 in the face on the way. I'm hitting him with my shotgun and a few shorts of tarans. He drops behind cover, i hit my boost but he easily out runs me. I only have the chance in last 5 seconds or so because he turns to take some more damage points. I'm able to win, just barely as I take more tridents to the face.
We won, +7
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 19:44:23 GMT -5
Hey man, I'm not messing up your thread, why do you have to come here and mess up mine. Go bother someone else. It's a free message board.
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Mar 11, 2017 19:53:27 GMT -5
So basically duplicating your previous thread, without actually saying "matchmaker".
Got it.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:00:34 GMT -5
Match 3:
My squad started with 3 Ancelots, 2 tt carnages and my griff. Griff wilted quickly under heavy fire from other team. Some Zeus, some missles.
Switched to my plasmahad, did ok. Took missles to the face in the center, flipped the beacon with half health. Didn't last too much longer.
Dropped Lancelot. Did ok. Lots of griffs and other lancelots at this time. They had a ttfury on overwatch. And they sent a stalker with a side shield out to retake beacons towards the 1min mark.
I killed that stalker, end game.
win, + 3.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:01:22 GMT -5
What are you? His rah rah buddy? I'm just making a thread, being cool. Why so negative? What harm is this to you bro? Be cool.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 20:13:25 GMT -5
What are you? His rah rah buddy? I'm just making a thread, being cool. Why so negative? What harm is this to you bro? Be cool. Look, i you want to escape splash, drop to Diamond 3-2. There is a big difference.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:16:40 GMT -5
Match 4
A Cossack caught my attention. Several carnages. My griff and a brave Galahad with Oakran.
Match was pretty even throughout the game the thing that organizes matches did a decent job. It was mostly missles and a few Zeus bots.
I had to stay moving to try to avoid as much splash as possible. Even so, a few mechs melted quickly. I needed up being chased down by a ancelot/oaks which took me down. He was paired up with a db griff so i was trying to avoid them both and it wasn't possible.
Last 2 minutes I sat out of game, out of mechs. Need that 5th hangar open. Halfway there....
Won
+3
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:17:27 GMT -5
That's super nice of you, thanks bro.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 11, 2017 20:19:48 GMT -5
What are you? His rah rah buddy? I'm just making a thread, being cool. Why so negative? What harm is this to you bro? Be cool. Look, i you want to escape splash, drop to Diamond 3-2. There is a big difference. No there isn't. Not on android anyway. Been splash EVERYWHERE for literally months now. Since at least Xmas. I shelved my galahads for a while in frustration. Still everywhere, from diamond II up so far.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:19:59 GMT -5
So these last 4 matches have been +'s for me. I cant say a balance though, the thing that shall not be named is working it's magic i guess. I was down 35 from a -20 and -15 earlier today. I was around 75 this morning in diamond 1. I'm in the 60's now.
When you take a hit, you take a big hit. When you do well it's a small increase. So, working as intended as i understand they want it hard to work your way up.
So I'm really considering, based on this experience today, swapping oaks on my griff to tulumbas for range. And buying more tulumbas and maybe a couple tridents to diversify my hangar more. Have maybe 1 plasma bot, rest missleboats. Ugh...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 20:23:30 GMT -5
That's super nice of you, thanks bro. Master 2 Meta Bots: Trident Fury, Ancile Lancelot, Orkan / Taran Aphid Griffin Expert 3 Meta Bots: Ancile Lancelots, Trident Fury and assorted Griffins. Diamond 1 Meta Bots: Orkan Pinata / Aphid Griffin, Ancile Lancelot, Trident Fury / Carnage Diamond 2 Meta Bots: Taran Magnum Griffin, Thunder Aphid / Magnum / Pinata Leo, Trident Carnage, Plasma Galahad / Orkan Pinata Galahad Diamond 3 Meta Bots: Taran Magnum Griffin, Thunder Pinata / Magnum Leo, Plasma Gareth, Aphid Gepard / Patton Gold 1 Meta Bots: Better Swiss Army Bots (eg. Thunder Magnum Pinata Aphid Leo), Gekko Taran Griffin I think I played a Gold 3 match while squadding with one of my clan members, but it's comparable to the lower range of High Silver (lots of Thunder Leos, Natashas and Plasma Griffins). Hope this helps.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:25:56 GMT -5
I have to agree with thunderkiss. Brit bots are sqishy now due to splash damage. Shield is only really useful against plasma these days. I say this because most hangars are now plasma light and nobody uses guns. Shield is ineffective against missles so it's a good move to drop those shiny gold bots. Ancelot excepted as you have some small shielding going on. My ancelot has one more day for lvl 10.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:29:42 GMT -5
I think it would be cool to make plasma relevant again by:
Increasing range to 450m Adding splash from plasma. It's a superheated gas (that changes state to liquid as it cools during trave and produces........SPLASH!).
That would make it competitive again imo. I haven't done the math so don't bite my head off. Just sayin.
The splash would be smaller and do less damage along with the nature of plasma weps.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:31:48 GMT -5
This would make a Galahad competitive to the relatively cheap griffin due to range matching. Galahad still has useless shield but maybe griff would need to maneuver more and play hide and seek less.
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Post by Strayed on Mar 11, 2017 20:32:08 GMT -5
That's super nice of you, thanks bro. Master 2 Meta Bots: Trident Fury, Ancile Lancelot, Orkan / Taran Aphid Griffin Expert 3 Meta Bots: Ancile Lancelots, Trident Fury and assorted Griffins. Diamond 1 Meta Bots: Orkan Pinata / Aphid Griffin, Ancile Lancelot, Trident Fury / Carnage Diamond 2 Meta Bots: Taran Magnum Griffin, Thunder Aphid / Magnum / Pinata Leo, Trident Carnage, Plasma Galahad / Orkan Pinata Galahad Diamond 3 Meta Bots: Taran Magnum Griffin, Thunder Pinata / Magnum Leo, Plasma Gareth, Aphid Gepard / Patton Gold 1 Meta Bots: Better Swiss Army Bots (eg. Thunder Magnum Pinata Aphid Leo), Gekko Taran Griffin I think I played a Gold 3 match while squadding with one of my clan members, but it's comparable to the lower range of High Silver (lots of Thunder Leos, Natashas and Plasma Griffins). Hope this helps. Once again, you forgot the galahads.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:36:16 GMT -5
I think that because the Galahad don't have a place in upper tiered leagues.
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Post by Strayed on Mar 11, 2017 20:38:00 GMT -5
There is a vox player on here who uses three galahads in his hangar. In addition to this, the galahad is the most used plasma bot in the higher tiers, it is a meta bot. DarkAngel apparently doesn't think so because it's apparently overused, which is the exact definition of meta.
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 20:40:21 GMT -5
Mr strayed, please check your pm's.
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Post by Strayed on Mar 11, 2017 20:44:00 GMT -5
Sorry, was busy for a bit there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 20:54:42 GMT -5
Master 2 Meta Bots: Trident Fury, Ancile Lancelot, Orkan / Taran Aphid Griffin Expert 3 Meta Bots: Ancile Lancelots, Trident Fury and assorted Griffins. Diamond 1 Meta Bots: Orkan Pinata / Aphid Griffin, Ancile Lancelot, Trident Fury / Carnage Diamond 2 Meta Bots: Taran Magnum Griffin, Thunder Aphid / Magnum / Pinata Leo, Trident Carnage, Plasma Galahad / Orkan Pinata Galahad Diamond 3 Meta Bots: Taran Magnum Griffin, Thunder Pinata / Magnum Leo, Plasma Gareth, Aphid Gepard / Patton Gold 1 Meta Bots: Better Swiss Army Bots (eg. Thunder Magnum Pinata Aphid Leo), Gekko Taran Griffin I think I played a Gold 3 match while squadding with one of my clan members, but it's comparable to the lower range of High Silver (lots of Thunder Leos, Natashas and Plasma Griffins). Hope this helps. Once again, you forgot the galahads. I played in all of those Leauges. Didn't see Galahad as a dominant or common bot there so I didn't put it there.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 11, 2017 20:55:57 GMT -5
Once again, you forgot the galahads. I played in all of those Leauges. Didn't see Galahad as a dominant or common bot there so I didn't put it there. Heck dude that's not true. I haven't had a game without a Gally (excl me) yet...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 20:56:07 GMT -5
Completely forgot the Rhino. Orkan Magnum Rhino is a meta bot in Diamond 2 and 3.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 11, 2017 20:57:16 GMT -5
Completely forgot the Rhino. Orkan Magnum Rhino is a meta bot in Diamond 2 and 3. Agree. These are really strong and common.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 20:58:22 GMT -5
I played in all of those Leauges. Didn't see Galahad as a dominant or common bot there so I didn't put it there. Heck dude that's not true. I haven't had a game without a Gally (excl me) yet... I said 'common'. Usually for every Gareth I see, I see another Galahad. Excluding me, you can usually see 2-3 Galahads in the lower Diamond and ~5 in Diamond 1. I see a whole lot less Galahads in Expert, probably because they get taken out by Trident Furies too fast.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 11, 2017 20:59:39 GMT -5
Heck dude that's not true. I haven't had a game without a Gally (excl me) yet... I said 'common'. Usually for every Gareth I see, I see another Galahad. Excluding me, you can usually see 2-3 Galahads in the lower Diamond and ~5 in Diamond 1. I see a whole lot less Galahads in Expert, probably because they get taken out by Trident Furies too fast. Thanks for rejecting my point by agreeing with it?
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Post by missleboatssuck on Mar 11, 2017 21:01:21 GMT -5
Last match, mostly griffs still, then a bunch of lancelots, and again fury tt, overwatch.
I could have sworn that we were winning. Then at last moment we lost.
I did 645k damage
-4.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2017 21:36:48 GMT -5
I said 'common'. Usually for every Gareth I see, I see another Galahad. Excluding me, you can usually see 2-3 Galahads in the lower Diamond and ~5 in Diamond 1. I see a whole lot less Galahads in Expert, probably because they get taken out by Trident Furies too fast. Thanks for rejecting my point by agreeing with it? I will put it in this way. For every Galahad I see, there are 3 Furies / 5 Griffins or 3 Lancelots.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 11, 2017 21:51:51 GMT -5
Thanks for rejecting my point by agreeing with it? I will put it in this way. For every Galahad I see, there are 3 Furies / 5 Griffins or 3 Lancelots. Fair enough. But PDB Galahads are still meta bots.
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