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Post by RightOn on Nov 10, 2016 14:39:07 GMT -5
I wonder if you wear 2 Ancile on the Heavy, they will remain active at the side?
That's 190k shield strength. Or 1900 recovery /sec
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 10, 2016 21:32:15 GMT -5
Can someone give me a quick summary of all the new bots and weaps?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 11, 2016 10:12:51 GMT -5
Can someone give me a quick summary of all the new bots and weaps? No new weapons yet. New Prototype bots are all the same basic premise... 2 weapons active, 2 in reserve on the back... that can reload while in the rest position. They can switch between the pairs of weapons, but there is a cooldown for the switch ability that lasts a long time for the Med and Heavy prototype. I'm not sure the exact times without looking at the thread, of the Med and Heavy, but here's a summation: 1. Light bot: 4 Light weapon hardpoints, 5 sec cooldown for the weapon switch mechanic 2. Medium bot: 4 Medium weapon hardpoints 20-25 sec cooldown? 3. Heavy bot: 4 Heavy weapon hardpoints, 30 sec cooldown? |
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Post by SGT D00M! on Nov 11, 2016 10:27:23 GMT -5
Sounds like there needs to be a reduction in the medium and heavy cooldown and either a substantial speed or hp bump or a moderate bump to both of them. Am I the only one that really wants to see more Ag bots even if it is just different combinations of hardpoints and speed/hp without special gee-whiz abilities?
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Nov 11, 2016 10:41:21 GMT -5
I feel like, if the stats are kept where they are, that these will be Ag... at least, they should be.
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 11, 2016 11:40:04 GMT -5
Well peeps, looks like were going to have more news on the bots soon. Get ready for the test server. It opens in about 17 hours.
The light bot is there, so well have news on that. Im looking forwards to an aphid setup on that, or maybe even a pin setup.
The prototypes are also getting more hp, but only 10k acording to the list. I wonder if they have bwwn coloured.....the light had. It's some odd maroon colour. Or red. Or purple. Cant really tell yet. Im bad at naming colours.
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Post by Neg0Pander on Nov 11, 2016 17:51:10 GMT -5
Yep. New Test Server stuff coming soon. Looks like they took the feedback to heart.
Honestly, if these bot just cost silver, I think they will be fine. If they are gold or WSP its gonna be another story.
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Post by Neg0Pander on Nov 11, 2016 17:53:33 GMT -5
I wonder if you wear 2 Ancile on the Heavy, they will remain active at the side? That's 190k shield strength. Or 1900 recovery /sec This is an idea worth testing. Sounded dumb at first, but perhaps not.... |
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 11, 2016 18:10:09 GMT -5
I wonder if you wear 2 Ancile on the Heavy, they will remain active at the side? That's 190k shield strength. Or 1900 recovery /sec This is an idea worth testing. Sounded dumb at first, but perhaps not.... The Ancile cant be equipped to the heavy prototype. Im not sure why... |
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Post by [ita]SirKenzoY2J on Nov 12, 2016 8:25:07 GMT -5
i see 40seconds cooldown to switch heavies and 30seconds to switch mediums,i thinks it's right to still this way, are they stronger enought with 4 harpoints
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Post by SuperHero on Nov 12, 2016 9:04:13 GMT -5
There is also a light version of the switchbot that nobody seems to be talking about.
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Post by Scorpio Snow on Nov 12, 2016 9:14:01 GMT -5
Do they cost gold? Or silver? Or WSP?
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Post by BlackGrouse on Nov 12, 2016 9:18:02 GMT -5
There is also a light version of the switchbot that nobody seems to be talking about. It is now in test server 12-13th november (android platform). Started thread about it, but I didn't have time yet to log in to test server (now closed about 5 hours in my timezone) Here is the thread |
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 12, 2016 20:34:29 GMT -5
i see 40seconds cooldown to switch heavies and 30seconds to switch mediums,i thinks it's right to still this way, are they stronger enought with 4 harpoints Er...no. Just no. Thwybare quite underpowered. The number of hardpoints dont kean crap, and it is much healthier to treat them as "speeding up the relaoding of two hardpoints temporarily" and "Switching ammo." |
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 12, 2016 20:36:21 GMT -5
There is also a light version of the switchbot that nobody seems to be talking about. It is now in test server 12-13th november (android platform). Started thread about it, but I didn't have time yet to log in to test server (now closed about 5 hours in my timezone) Here is the threadThe light bot has a cooldown of 17 seconds....it had 5 before, and it looked fine that way. They still have toaster syndrome though. And the health obly made a marginal difference. |
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Post by Deadalready on Nov 12, 2016 22:12:31 GMT -5
What does "toaster syndrome" mean?
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Post by Strayed on Nov 12, 2016 22:53:21 GMT -5
When you lose all of your weapons on a boa.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Nov 13, 2016 7:53:56 GMT -5
What does "toaster syndrome" mean? Their weapons keep popping off. |
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Post by RightOn on Nov 13, 2016 10:57:52 GMT -5
i see 40seconds cooldown to switch heavies and 30seconds to switch mediums,i thinks it's right to still this way, are they stronger enought with 4 harpoints Er...no. Just no. Thwybare quite underpowered. The number of hardpoints dont kean crap, and it is much healthier to treat them as "speeding up the relaoding of two hardpoints temporarily" and "Switching ammo." I don't think it's underpowered. Generally speaking, the whole team is relatively spread out. What kills is numbers, and the time it takes to move back in position. These bots take advantage of that. You could off 2 bots in one Weapon flip (Orkans). By the time they get back to you, Weapon flip is ready rinse repeat. |
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 13, 2016 11:41:34 GMT -5
Er...no. Just no. Thwybare quite underpowered. The number of hardpoints dont kean crap, and it is much healthier to treat them as "speeding up the relaoding of two hardpoints temporarily" and "Switching ammo." I don't think it's underpowered. Generally speaking, the whole team is relatively spread out. What kills is numbers, and the time it takes to move back in position. These bots take advantage of that. You could off 2 bots in one Weapon flip (Orkans). By the time they get back to you, Weapon flip is ready rinse repeat. Im just gonna take a guess that you havent been on the test server at all. |
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Post by RightOn on Nov 13, 2016 12:00:33 GMT -5
Given that I play on iOS, you'd be right. But after watching videos and using my experience, I have an idea how that would work out. These bots (in particular Orkans or Thunders) can produce more damage than anything else yet, in the given short period of time.
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 13, 2016 12:18:01 GMT -5
Given that I play on iOS, you'd be right. But after watching videos and using my experience, I have an idea how that would work out. These bots (in particular Orkans or Thunders) can produce more damage than anything else yet, in the given short period of time. Well, I actually happen to be ON the test server. Where the Boas and Pattons are currently invisible, too. Not to mention, the new bots ARE underpowered. The theoretical damage means nothing if you get yiur weapons knocked off by some guy across the map. For yhe same reason a tri-orkan fujin isnt the king of top teir, these things are underpowered. All the potential they have is simply potential. |
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Post by Neg0Pander on Nov 13, 2016 13:08:30 GMT -5
Man, the light bot in particular is far from under-powered. If anything, it may be too good.
The medium in my opinion is just about right. The faster cool down and extra HP were just what it needed.
The heavy is still just OK, decidedly better than before though.
If these bots cost silver (and that's my hope) they are awesome as is. The light maybe even needs a Nerf. If they are gold, well, that will suck since the last new boots were gold too. WSP? Please don't do that to us unless you give us faster ways to earn WSP.
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 13, 2016 17:26:57 GMT -5
Man, the light bot in particular is far from under-powered. If anything, it may be too good. The medium in my opinion is just about right. The faster cool down and extra HP were just what it needed. The heavy is still just OK, decidedly better than before though. If these bots cost silver (and that's my hope) they are awesome as is. The light maybe even needs a Nerf. If they are gold, well, that will suck since the last new boots were gold too. WSP? Please don't do that to us unless you give us faster ways to earn WSP. The light is in neednof a nerf? Interesting. Might I ask for you to clarify your reasoning? |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 13, 2016 18:35:42 GMT -5
Man, the light bot in particular is far from under-powered. If anything, it may be too good. The medium in my opinion is just about right. The faster cool down and extra HP were just what it needed. The heavy is still just OK, decidedly better than before though. If these bots cost silver (and that's my hope) they are awesome as is. The light maybe even needs a Nerf. If they are gold, well, that will suck since the last new boots were gold too. WSP? Please don't do that to us unless you give us faster ways to earn WSP. The light is in neednof a nerf? Interesting. Might I ask for you to clarify your reasoning? Nothing about the light bot as it is now makes it good. You can roughly use it as a faster quad pinata platform that has to fire 2 different salvos. That's about it. |
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Post by Neg0Pander on Nov 13, 2016 18:50:24 GMT -5
Are you guys considering that these will not be running against maxed hangars? Ever? Its a light bot and i took out maxed Lancelots with it. IF it doesnt get an MM penalty (not sure what the likelyhood of that is), it will be able to bring maxed weapons into silver tier battles. 4 of them. Thats basically a fast moving Patton with like 30% bigger guns than the actual pattons it will face.
You cant properly gauge these light & medium bots against maxed hangars. If you compare their specs against similar bots we already have, they fit in nicely.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Nov 13, 2016 19:00:35 GMT -5
Are you guys considering that these will not be running against maxed hangars? Ever? Its a light bot and i took out maxed Lancelots with it. IF it doesnt get an MM penalty (not sure what the likelyhood of that is), it will be able to bring maxed weapons into silver tier battles. 4 of them. Thats basically a fast moving Patton with like 30% bigger guns than the actual pattons it will face. You cant properly gauge these light & medium bots against maxed hangars. If you compare their specs against similar bots we already have, they fit in nicely. Well yes, if they don't suffer mm penalties then the light bot will be useable, but still slightly worse than the gepard, the others are still crap. |
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Post by Curry Pot on Nov 15, 2016 19:30:46 GMT -5
The light bot doesn't look all that bad; it's basically a fast patton, and might actually be survivable up top considering that bots only have to go faster than 50 kph to be invulnerable to orkans and pinatas, and the light bot's speed exceeds that. If it doesn't cost gold then it would be worth buying even in its current form.
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Post by [ita]SirKenzoY2J on Nov 17, 2016 9:46:01 GMT -5
thinking about med one... 4x tulumbass could create a very efficent hit by hitting first the active two, then switch, fire reload and then re-fire again with 3rd and 4th before re-swithc on 1st and 2nd.... hitting with 4x lv 10-11-12 S.25 tulumbass means 80k damages every 16 seconds from 500m...
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Post by Mechronis on Nov 17, 2016 21:52:41 GMT -5
thinking about med one... 4x tulumbass could create a very efficent hit by hitting first the active two, then switch, fire reload and then re-fire again with 3rd and 4th before re-swithc on 1st and 2nd.... hitting with 4x lv 10-11-12 S.25 tulumbass means 80k damages every 16 seconds from 500m... That is, if the cooldown is 16 or less. |
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