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Post by dms12008 on Mar 9, 2017 18:10:55 GMT -5
Seems most people don't like new mm, say it encourages seal clubbing. Some people don't like how it's 'unfair' (I'm not even going to touch that one lol do people not realize it applies exact same system to every player, and as u approach max level u innately get sorted into higher tiers. It's not that complicated)
But y I need to make this post is, I hope pixonic hears the voice of people like myself who appreciate the hard work that went into developing the rich and exciting new mm.
I love having leaderboards, I love advancing through levels against real people, I love the joy of sometimes beating teams w seal clubbers bc they don't have the battle tactics to back up their rating
To anyone who thinks the new mm is somehow logically unsound somehow it's just silly. Even if it is rigged in a way to make pix money- THIS IS A FREE GAME! REJOICE!
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Mar 9, 2017 18:24:04 GMT -5
"I love having leaderboards, I love advancing through levels against real people, I love the joy of sometimes beating teams w seal clubbers bc they don't have the battle tactics to back up their rating" - You can do all that with the old MM fyi.
While I appreciate your enthusiasm, it can also be said that your appreciation (as well as mine) would fare far better should Pix actually went about improving the old gear-based MM instead of the cluster of mess they created with the current one.
Lastly, enough with the "Free" game red herring. They're not santa claus...it's free for obvious marketing reasons too.
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Post by Feezou on Mar 9, 2017 18:52:07 GMT -5
A poll was done, and basically no one likes it!
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Post by dms12008 on Mar 9, 2017 21:21:49 GMT -5
OK I suppose you could say that I wish pix would make the game was SOOO good that I actually wanted to spend money on it.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 9, 2017 21:55:07 GMT -5
Seems most people don't like new mm, say it encourages seal clubbing. Some people don't like how it's 'unfair' (I'm not even going to touch that one lol do people not realize it applies exact same system to every player, and as u approach max level u innately get sorted into higher tiers. It's not that complicated) But y I need to make this post is, I hope pixonic hears the voice of people like myself who appreciate the hard work that went into developing the rich and exciting new mm. I love having leaderboards, I love advancing through levels against real people, I love the joy of sometimes beating teams w seal clubbers bc they don't have the battle tactics to back up their rating To anyone who thinks the new mm is somehow logically unsound somehow it's just silly. Even if it is rigged in a way to make pix money- THIS IS A FREE GAME! REJOICE! Hey you! Quiet down and stop rocking the boat! Seriously though, don't let the negativity here get you down. If you are enjoying the game keep playing, but you are unlikely to change the minds of people who preferred the old MM.
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Post by Dredd77 on Mar 9, 2017 21:57:58 GMT -5
Moderation: moved to Rants
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Post by amidf on Mar 9, 2017 22:03:01 GMT -5
The tanking/clubbing issue needs to be fixed. But otherwise it is a better system than hangar-based. The reason I write that is because I have the expectation that a game like this will encourage progression. Yes, this means impatient people will spend RM. But the rest of us can still progress.
The old MM meant you would progress to a point to be the big fish in your tier. Then you either stay there and "farm" (club) or you build another hangar in the background.
With this system the tiers are more continuous and you just keep pushing up your main hangar. I personally don't want other hangars. I want one which I can use to play the bots I like and rise to whatever level my skills and equipment allow.
But I can appreciate that others want to go backwards and play lower tiers with appropriate equipment sometimes. That is much more difficult now, and I do empathize.
-Amid
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 9, 2017 22:29:01 GMT -5
The last forum poll done with old vs new MM was at last check 44 for new MM and 55 for old MM...Not sure where the 2 to 1 and nearly everybody hates it nonsense is coming from. If you want to be disingenuous about it then great...
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Post by frunobulax on Mar 10, 2017 6:25:49 GMT -5
Well, I thought the new MM was a good idea when it came out. It took me a while to understand how crappy it is. Just wait, the other players will come around.
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Post by ŞĆĦŇIŦŽ€Ł on Mar 10, 2017 12:55:39 GMT -5
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Post by RightOn on Mar 10, 2017 16:48:22 GMT -5
A poll was done, and basically no one likes it! last I saw was 37 to 50, in favor of old Thing is, you're garnering votes from people who never made a TT hangar
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Mar 10, 2017 16:56:59 GMT -5
A poll was done, and basically no one likes it! last I saw was 37 to 50, in favor of old Thing is, you're garnering votes from people who never made a TT hangar Funny, wouldn't that be a fair assessment since not many players in War Robots actually have TT hangars? Pretty sure Pix didn't design the MM from scratch with the assumption that all players should have TT hangars too yes?
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Post by Feezou on Mar 10, 2017 22:10:08 GMT -5
last I saw was 37 to 50, in favor of old Thing is, you're garnering votes from people who never made a TT hangar Funny, wouldn't that be a fair assessment since not many players in War Robots actually have TT hangars? Pretty sure Pix didn't design the MM from scratch with the assumption that all players should have TT hangars too yes? Please just stop quoting me.
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Mar 11, 2017 2:27:48 GMT -5
Funny, wouldn't that be a fair assessment since not many players in War Robots actually have TT hangars? Pretty sure Pix didn't design the MM from scratch with the assumption that all players should have TT hangars too yes? Please just stop quoting me. Or or or...be an adult and change your notification settings?
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Post by riznfire on Mar 11, 2017 2:55:29 GMT -5
Please just stop quoting me. Or or or...be an adult and change your notification settings? You're a 「wee-wee」
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Post by drjackal on Mar 11, 2017 3:09:28 GMT -5
Seems most people don't like new mm, say it encourages seal clubbing. Some people don't like how it's 'unfair' (I'm not even going to touch that one lol do people not realize it applies exact same system to every player, and as u approach max level u innately get sorted into higher tiers. It's not that complicated) But y I need to make this post is, I hope pixonic hears the voice of people like myself who appreciate the hard work that went into developing the rich and exciting new mm. I love having leaderboards, I love advancing through levels against real people, I love the joy of sometimes beating teams w seal clubbers bc they don't have the battle tactics to back up their rating To anyone who thinks the new mm is somehow logically unsound somehow it's just silly. Even if it is rigged in a way to make pix money- THIS IS A FREE GAME! REJOICE! True it is! I like the game as it s more and more. Maybe it's my league, but the matches are balanced, exciting and challenging. I love it when I drop a 12/12 Lancelot from behind.. If it weren't for the occasional TT Fury, look fe would be perfect.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 11, 2017 10:30:36 GMT -5
last I saw was 37 to 50, in favor of old Thing is, you're garnering votes from people who never made a TT hangar Funny, wouldn't that be a fair assessment since not many players in War Robots actually have TT hangars? Pretty sure Pix didn't design the MM from scratch with the assumption that all players should have TT hangars too yes? Is this Sarcasm? Obviously Pix designed the MM to encourage everyone to spend irl $$ and make TT so they can do some "legitimate" clubbing.
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Mar 11, 2017 13:29:51 GMT -5
Or or or...be an adult and change your notification settings? You're a ?wee-wee? Guess you belong in the same sandbox too... Ffs at least reply like a grown up.
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Post by riznfire on Mar 12, 2017 1:13:52 GMT -5
Guess you belong in the same sandbox too... Ffs at least reply like a grown up. I did.
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Mar 12, 2017 7:44:16 GMT -5
Guess you belong in the same sandbox too... Ffs at least reply like a grown up. I did. Shudder to think what your interpretation of a grown up reply would be.
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Post by riznfire on Mar 12, 2017 9:18:13 GMT -5
Shudder to think what your interpretation of a grown up reply would be. Are you one of those types that can't stop unless you get the last word? Just wondering, because I thought this conversation was done, at least I was done with it.
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Post by notyetnotsosoon on Mar 12, 2017 11:13:28 GMT -5
Shudder to think what your interpretation of a grown up reply would be. Are you one of those types that can't stop unless you get the last word? Just wondering, because I thought this conversation was done, at least I was done with it. The irony...
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Post by lilryry on Mar 12, 2017 12:00:17 GMT -5
I would say overall people that are bad at the game would be in favor of the new mm seeing how it pairs them against lesser geared competition so they can win more. I am the lowest geared player in every battle I que for and it gets exhausting playing against tt hangers with my 6/8 so bads can feel special about themselves
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Post by SGT D00M! on Mar 12, 2017 12:08:51 GMT -5
Funny, wouldn't that be a fair assessment since not many players in War Robots actually have TT hangars? Pretty sure Pix didn't design the MM from scratch with the assumption that all players should have TT hangars too yes? Is this Sarcasm? Obviously Pix designed the MM to encourage everyone to spend irl $$ and make TT so they can do some "legitimate" clubbing. You never turn it off do you? Why are you on a game forum for a game you hate so much? Trolls gonna troll.
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Post by riznfire on Mar 12, 2017 16:45:43 GMT -5
Are you one of those types that can't stop unless you get the last word? Just wondering, because I thought this conversation was done, at least I was done with it. The irony... Last word.
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Post by amidf on Mar 12, 2017 17:17:00 GMT -5
I would say overall people that are bad at the game would be in favor of the new mm seeing how it pairs them against lesser geared competition so they can win more. I am the lowest geared player in every battle I que for and it gets exhausting playing against tt hangers with my 6/8 so bads can feel special about themselves Exhausting or challenging? Doesn't it mean you can't make many mistakes? Have to be doing your best most of the time? I can see why that's exhausting, but it makes the game more exciting too. -Amid
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Post by boomsplat on Mar 12, 2017 17:24:30 GMT -5
I just wish Pixo would have had the forethought to close off tanking before they launched the new MM....some were calling out for that tactic based on other games. And people started to tank within 24 hours of the roll out. Other than that, I'm okay with the new MM only because I think it will allow Pixo to come out with more things that we are requesting - they said they couldn't do that with the old MM. But their last word was that the old MM is not coming back so I've already moved on from it and not looked back.
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Post by lilryry on Mar 12, 2017 18:38:27 GMT -5
I would say overall people that are bad at the game would be in favor of the new mm seeing how it pairs them against lesser geared competition so they can win more. I am the lowest geared player in every battle I que for and it gets exhausting playing against tt hangers with my 6/8 so bads can feel special about themselves Exhausting or challenging? Doesn't it mean you can't make many mistakes? Have to be doing your best most of the time? I can see why that's exhausting, but it makes the game more exciting too. -Amid this argument is so dumb, I'm literally fighting bots that are twice my level that can one shot me...can't possibly be challenging for them. I have no problem keeping some aspects of the new mm but at some point gear needs to be factored in somehow imo. Also there's no way to stop tanking, so if someone does less than "x" damage for 10 matches in a row they get put in the tankers league? Guess what, tankers will find out the threshold and work the system, its impossible to know what someone is thinking, if they're tanking intentionally or if they're defending a beacon legitimately and that's why their damage is low, the whole thing is dumb. Pix is just trying to hold onto and patch in fixes for a system that will never work
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Post by amidf on Mar 12, 2017 19:17:24 GMT -5
Exhausting or challenging? Doesn't it mean you can't make many mistakes? Have to be doing your best most of the time? I can see why that's exhausting, but it makes the game more exciting too. -Amid this argument is so dumb, I'm literally fighting bots that are twice my level that can one shot me...can't possibly be challenging for them. I have no problem keeping some aspects of the new mm but at some point gear needs to be factored in somehow imo. Also there's no way to stop tanking, so if someone does less than "x" damage for 10 matches in a row they get put in the tankers league? Guess what, tankers will find out the threshold and work the system, its impossible to know what someone is thinking, if they're tanking intentionally or if they're defending a beacon legitimately and that's why their damage is low, the whole thing is dumb. Pix is just trying to hold onto and patch in fixes for a system that will never work Wow. Sorry to hear you are losing every match to tankers. -Amid
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Post by lilryry on Mar 12, 2017 20:00:34 GMT -5
this argument is so dumb, I'm literally fighting bots that are twice my level that can one shot me...can't possibly be challenging for them. I have no problem keeping some aspects of the new mm but at some point gear needs to be factored in somehow imo. Also there's no way to stop tanking, so if someone does less than "x" damage for 10 matches in a row they get put in the tankers league? Guess what, tankers will find out the threshold and work the system, its impossible to know what someone is thinking, if they're tanking intentionally or if they're defending a beacon legitimately and that's why their damage is low, the whole thing is dumb. Pix is just trying to hold onto and patch in fixes for a system that will never work Wow. Sorry to hear you are losing every match to tankers. -Amid trust me it isn't tankers, it's bads that have max hangers but can't do damage against equally geared opponents so the mm pairs them against hangers like mine so they can win, that's the basis for this mm, that's what it is at it's core and no amount of leagues or patches will ever change the broken system
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