chumba
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Post by chumba on Jul 1, 2019 16:18:06 GMT -5
Doesnt fix the problem. With the amount of Ares running around folks just add another to the rotation and BAM! Ares train continues.
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chumba
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Post by chumba on Jul 1, 2019 16:21:56 GMT -5
How many Ares do you count? I get 4, possibly 5. We were 3 capped half this match until they brought out there Ares. This is how bad it is.
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Post by AcuityAxiom on Jul 1, 2019 16:31:24 GMT -5
It would be better if it (shieldbreaker) "disrupts" the shield instead of taking it down fully. ie. making it flicker on and off for x secs, thereby allowing a y amount of damage through.
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Post by alphaomega001 on Jul 1, 2019 16:44:05 GMT -5
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Post by orionpax on Jul 1, 2019 18:44:19 GMT -5
I personally think we, as a community should boycott until they do something. This will never happen for the same reason the shieldbreaker wont go live. The pay to win base (the only ones who mean anything to pix) wont allow it. This leaves the begrudging pay players, myself included, frustrated and angry because we cant compete against the Ares but stuck in a game that blows badonkadonk because we have what we (me) consider to be a decent amount invested. There are enough players registered on these boards that if we got together we could make an impact. Just need to get some P2W players on board and we are golden. . We tried the boycott thing a bunch of times and it doesn’t work.
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Post by S1E1 on Jul 1, 2019 18:47:13 GMT -5
I would be happy just with shorter duration and longer cooldown personally. Exactly ^^^ Ditto plus some speed reduction.
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Post by foxypotato on Jul 1, 2019 19:03:28 GMT -5
I would be happy just with shorter duration and longer cooldown personally. And a massive nerf to the built in weapons. The shield should have to absorb a lot of damage to output the sort of retribution damage it does currently while having little to no absorbed damage. It also needs a speed nerf. Greatly decrease base retribution damage Reduce absorber shield duration Reduce speed Increase cool down time
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chumba
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Post by chumba on Jul 1, 2019 19:41:16 GMT -5
If they did it to Ares they would almost certainly do it to the other two. My Nemesis ability damage is pathetic as is at lvl 9. I just want the shield breaker so I can run a bunch of fast bots and strictly hunt Ares lol. The hate is real!
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Post by >bobby_digital< on Jul 1, 2019 21:23:07 GMT -5
I personally think we, as a community should boycott until they do something.... ...because that's always worked out so well in the past...
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chumba
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Post by chumba on Jul 1, 2019 23:33:17 GMT -5
I personally think we, as a community should boycott until they do something.... ...because that's always worked out so well in the past...
Honestly folks keep saying that. I havent been involved in any of them so dont know how they turned out but I cant see a company not careing so much about there money that people not spending, not watching advents, hell not playing wouldnt have an impact. We as a community just need to stand together. I watched a video about pixonics financials and was shocked to find out that 90% of there money comes from 4% of the player base.....THATS NUTS! Now we just need to isolate half of that 4% and get them on board with standing up to these guys. When a company loses 40% of its income I bet they would wonder whats up. I could be wrong, they may REALLY not give 2 shats about how we feel but I bet they love there money.
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Post by linearblade on Jul 1, 2019 23:47:45 GMT -5
I personally think we, as a community should boycott until they do something.... ...because that's always worked out so well in the past... there is only one way to do it. and that is by yourself, like I do. lead by example, others will follow. dont run the ares. dont run the ao jun. First everyone will laugh at you, but they will see your right.
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Post by [CK]erazor on Jul 1, 2019 23:53:25 GMT -5
Exactly. Their main priority is increasing the profits. If you start a new dummy account you can see how many discounted offers are being pushed to you up to level 28 account. The lower leagues are crazy Pay 2 Win now. You can see Haechis, Pursuers, Falcons or Inquisitors clubbing baby seal Destriers, Cossacks, Gareths and Gepards. It's crazy unbalanced environment in Bronze, Silver and Gold leagues. And as one who has started several smurf accounts: It's no fun at all if you don't spend at least a few bucks. Game #11 is your Destrier against Leos and Natashas. No wonder the player base is collapsing, if you push f2p players out of the door. 100% spot-on. The lower leagues don't even exist from my point of view, as you got "high level" bots like Au Qin on offer on offer after playing very few games with a new account. I currently have a RDB Griffin with level 6 weapons and still do good at FFA, but don't stand a chance in regular modes. Offers I got so far: Fujin + Gold Skin + 3* Taran + 750 gold + 1m silver at 10 bucks Ao Qin at 5 bucks 1000 gold at 1 Lance + Ancile + Orkans at 5 (That's crazy. Remember how long you had to play in the past to grind those items?) 5000 gold at 3 bucks 2* Tarans at 1 A Hover at 3 Two Orkans at 1 7500 gold at 5 Fury and 3*Zeus at 5 10 days premium at 1So, in conclusion, the pay to win starts after having played 10 to 15 matches. If a game asks players to pay money at that early stage, it will lose players. All of these offers occured while I have the following items in my hangar: Stalker (4) with two Punishers (5) Doc (1) (bought it to get the four level 5 Tulumbas) Jesse(1) with four Pinatas (5) Cossack for nostalgia Destrier (1) Well, it's the first bot you get as you all know With these bots, I face all kind of advanced weapons and bots down in Bronze I. P2W from the start. Pixonic seems to blatantly ruin the player base.
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chumba
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Platform: Android
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Post by chumba on Jul 1, 2019 23:59:04 GMT -5
Lol I couldnt run an Ares if I wanted to. By the time I built it, then built the weapons, then maxxed the modules, then maxxed it, then maxxed the weapons.....The meta will have changed, the zombie apocolypse will have come and gone, Jesus will have been resurected and crucified again, dang Dixonic may even be out of buisness by then. NO NO I definently wont be running an Ares unless a nice shiny one drops from the superchest. Then I will use it to hunt other Ares lol.
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Post by $$SupportsNewHires/NewContent on Jul 2, 2019 1:43:54 GMT -5
Plan B, Pix is going to release the Shield converter ammo. Changes purple shield to energy shield, maximum protection from rockets.
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Post by hyderier on Jul 2, 2019 3:04:26 GMT -5
I personally think we, as a community should boycott until they do something. Sorry to say this, but there is no "we, a community". There are some subgroups, such as people of this forum, but we in particular are a tiny tiny fraction of the whole, and irrelevant as such. There is no single subcommunity containing large enough portion of the player base for any boycott to have an effect, even if this subcommunity would somehow agree on a boycott.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 3:21:29 GMT -5
I personally think we, as a community should boycott until they do something. This will never happen for the same reason the shieldbreaker wont go live. The pay to win base (the only ones who mean anything to pix) wont allow it. This leaves the begrudging pay players, myself included, frustrated and angry because we cant compete against the Ares but stuck in a game that blows badonkadonk because we have what we (me) consider to be a decent amount invested. There are enough players registered on these boards that if we got together we could make an impact. Just need to get some P2W players on board and we are golden. good luck with that
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Post by Wife is Pissed on Jul 2, 2019 5:41:25 GMT -5
And as one who has started several smurf accounts: It's no fun at all if you don't spend at least a few bucks. Game #11 is your Destrier against Leos and Natashas. No wonder the player base is collapsing, if you push f2p players out of the door. 100% spot-on. The lower leagues don't even exist from my point of view, as you got "high level" bots like Au Qin on offer on offer after playing very few games with a new account. I currently have a RDB Griffin with level 6 weapons and still do good at FFA, but don't stand a chance in regular modes. Offers I got so far: Fujin + Gold Skin + 3* Taran + 750 gold + 1m silver at 10 bucks Ao Qin at 5 bucks 1000 gold at 1 Lance + Ancile + Orkans at 5 (That's crazy. Remember how long you had to play in the past to grind those items?) 5000 gold at 3 bucks 2* Tarans at 1 A Hover at 3 Two Orkans at 1 7500 gold at 5 Fury and 3*Zeus at 5 10 days premium at 1So, in conclusion, the pay to win starts after having played 10 to 15 matches. If a game asks players to pay money at that early stage, it will lose players. All of these offers occured while I have the following items in my hangar: Stalker (4) with two Punishers (5) Doc (1) (bought it to get the four level 5 Tulumbas) Jesse(1) with four Pinatas (5) Cossack for nostalgia Destrier (1) Well, it's the first bot you get as you all know With these bots, I face all kind of advanced weapons and bots down in Bronze I. P2W from the start. Pixonic seems to blatantly ruin the player base. Where are these offers on MY platform?
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Post by [CK]erazor on Jul 2, 2019 5:53:10 GMT -5
100% spot-on. The lower leagues don't even exist from my point of view, as you got "high level" bots like Au Qin on offer on offer after playing very few games with a new account. I currently have a RDB Griffin with level 6 weapons and still do good at FFA, but don't stand a chance in regular modes. Offers I got so far: Fujin + Gold Skin + 3* Taran + 750 gold + 1m silver at 10 bucks Ao Qin at 5 bucks 1000 gold at 1 Lance + Ancile + Orkans at 5 (That's crazy. Remember how long you had to play in the past to grind those items?) 5000 gold at 3 bucks 2* Tarans at 1 A Hover at 3 Two Orkans at 1 7500 gold at 5 Fury and 3*Zeus at 5 10 days premium at 1So, in conclusion, the pay to win starts after having played 10 to 15 matches. If a game asks players to pay money at that early stage, it will lose players. All of these offers occured while I have the following items in my hangar: Stalker (4) with two Punishers (5) Doc (1) (bought it to get the four level 5 Tulumbas) Jesse(1) with four Pinatas (5) Cossack for nostalgia Destrier (1) Well, it's the first bot you get as you all know With these bots, I face all kind of advanced weapons and bots down in Bronze I. P2W from the start. Pixonic seems to blatantly ruin the player base. Where are these offers on MY platform? No idea. The offers I listed were on a new Anroid War Robots account, but I got similar offers on IOS in the past. If you'd start over, you'd get the very same offers and could build a pretty good hangar for 20 or 30 bucks, including the gold for speeding upgrades. I won't do that due to a long list of reasons as I, in short, don't support Pixonic's business model.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 2, 2019 5:59:08 GMT -5
You missed a term in your translation and the last sentence. I fixed it for ya.
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Post by Rollo Tomasi on Jul 2, 2019 6:07:05 GMT -5
I personally think we, as a community should boycott until they do something. This will never happen for the same reason the shieldbreaker wont go live. The pay to win base (the only ones who mean anything to pix) wont allow it. This leaves the begrudging pay players, myself included, frustrated and angry because we cant compete against the Ares but stuck in a game that blows badonkadonk because we have what we (me) consider to be a decent amount invested. There are enough players registered on these boards that if we got together we could make an impact. Just need to get some P2W players on board and we are golden. . We tried the boycott thing a bunch of times and it doesn’t work. I have boycotted the ares since the beginning. Ask me how that’s working out, lol.
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Post by britaindragon on Jul 2, 2019 10:30:57 GMT -5
i bet most of the Ares pilots spent lots of money and making up a big part of Pix's income. i don't have an ares and i really look forward to shield breaker module. There were others say how easy ares can be tackled, but the fact now i seen ares in Champions League could take down multiple pilots before re-spawn the same ares. shield breaker indeed a pretty effective module to stop this BS. either way pix should nerf ares; even like 50-100% decrease weapon damages from the ares while shield is up. It doesn't make sense to hav an impenetrable and energy absorbing shield up while you could fire from inside.
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Post by orionpax on Jul 2, 2019 13:07:01 GMT -5
. We tried the boycott thing a bunch of times and it doesn’t work. I have boycotted the ares since the beginning. Ask me how that’s working out, lol. . Yeah I’m over mine already. I want to keep one and replace the others. Upgrading my Tyr then my fenrir. Josh is killing it with his so I’ll just follow his lead.
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Post by orionpax on Jul 2, 2019 13:10:08 GMT -5
i bet most of the Ares pilots spent lots of money and making up a big part of Pix's income. i don't have an ares and i really look forward to shield breaker module. There were others say how easy ares can be tackled, but the fact now i seen ares in Champions League could take down multiple pilots before re-spawn the same ares. shield breaker indeed a pretty effective module to stop this BS. either way pix should nerf ares; even like 50-100% decrease weapon damages from the ares while shield is up. It doesn't make sense to hav an impenetrable and energy absorbing shield up while you could fire from inside. . I think it depends on which kind they run. I won 2 of the green ones for next to nothing in the last event.
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Post by britaindragon on Jul 2, 2019 14:32:25 GMT -5
. I think it depends on which kind they run. I won 2 of the green ones for next to nothing in the last event. O man~! good for you ~ but at least you purchased the tokens for the spins, right? I didnt purchase any token and didnt win any bot. I also mean those with couple of ares and already reached at least lv 12 and above. if i hav one ares from the spin, i really dont care that much.
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Post by orionpax on Jul 2, 2019 14:44:29 GMT -5
. I think it depends on which kind they run. I won 2 of the green ones for next to nothing in the last event. O man~! good for you ~ but at least you purchased the tokens for the spins, right? I didnt purchase any token and didnt win any bot. I also mean those with couple of ares and already reached at least lv 12 and above. if i hav one ares from the spin, i really dont care that much. . I sure did. But hey I used to spend $500.00 to go snowboarding for a weekend. Thatâ??s 3 days. I play this game everyday and have been for 3 and 1/2 years so I feel as though any money spent on this game is well worth it. To each their own I guess. I donâ??t get butt hurt over the whole pay to win free to play bull?dookie?. Way bigger things in life to worry about then who who pays for what and who pays for nothing. Itâ??s just a game in the end. After work and family this is the only form of entertainment for me personally. ð??© A pack of cigarettes is $10 here in Cali. Donâ??t buy five packs of cigarettes and you can get a nice haul from any event. Just saying.
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chumba
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Post by chumba on Jul 2, 2019 17:23:04 GMT -5
Thats the mindset Dixonic and other predatory game developers are looking for, justified passive spending. At least join the begrudging spenders and complain about it lol!
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Post by leecher123 on Jul 2, 2019 17:53:23 GMT -5
And as one who has started several smurf accounts: It's no fun at all if you don't spend at least a few bucks. Game #11 is your Destrier against Leos and Natashas. No wonder the player base is collapsing, if you push f2p players out of the door. 100% spot-on. The lower leagues don't even exist from my point of view, as you got "high level" bots like Au Qin on offer on offer after playing very few games with a new account. I currently have a RDB Griffin with level 6 weapons and still do good at FFA, but don't stand a chance in regular modes. Offers I got so far: Fujin + Gold Skin + 3* Taran + 750 gold + 1m silver at 10 bucks Ao Qin at 5 bucks 1000 gold at 1 Lance + Ancile + Orkans at 5 (That's crazy. Remember how long you had to play in the past to grind those items?) 5000 gold at 3 bucks 2* Tarans at 1 A Hover at 3 Two Orkans at 1 7500 gold at 5 Fury and 3*Zeus at 5 10 days premium at 1So, in conclusion, the pay to win starts after having played 10 to 15 matches. If a game asks players to pay money at that early stage, it will lose players. All of these offers occured while I have the following items in my hangar: Stalker (4) with two Punishers (5) Doc (1) (bought it to get the four level 5 Tulumbas) Jesse(1) with four Pinatas (5) Cossack for nostalgia Destrier (1) Well, it's the first bot you get as you all know With these bots, I face all kind of advanced weapons and bots down in Bronze I. P2W from the start. Pixonic seems to blatantly ruin the player base. Here is a scary thought: if I start my 2nd smurf account, I will probably gladly pay for those discount deals, especially after I know how much they would be if I try to acquire them later in game. And the scary part is that I have, and probably a lot of the player base of this game, has the disposable income to throw at Pix and don’t really care (my lunch is anywhere from $10 to $30 in midtown Manhattan). Starting a smurf is more convenient than going through all the trouble to tank down from champ, especially after pix “fixed” the honor system. I wonder how much of Pix income is generated from these dirt cheap deal at start of game..
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chumba
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Post by chumba on Jul 2, 2019 18:09:57 GMT -5
The financials video I watched said 4% of players are pay players so, unless alot play smurfs I dont think it would be much. On the other hand with high champs stockpileing gold and silver for 5 years maybe its not the champs causeing the inbalance, maybe its the new "smurfs" skyrocketing up into the higher tiers and haveing no idea what there doing. Thats me minus the smurf, skyrocketing and getting a good deal....I just suck at Ares Robots....I mean moneyhungry Dixonic-robots...I mean War Robots.
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chumba
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Post by chumba on Jul 2, 2019 21:01:18 GMT -5
This kind of crap is why War Robots just sucks. The name says it all. Know Skillz? I know a skillfull credit card user when I see one.
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Post by icyfire on Jul 3, 2019 4:15:09 GMT -5
Another Idea. Make the absorber shield directional and proportional to the intended job of the bot. example, make the Ares shield cover only the forward 120 degree arc. or give it the same shield duration, cooldown and built-in weapon firing duration of Nemesis.
The engineer in me is asking, where is this bot getting the necessary power to sustain the shields for a long time, then fire those freak weapons with the shield still up and maintain such highspeed mobility.... (maybe it's built by aliens.. wait, that's the invader...but the invader makes sense...)
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