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Post by dms12008 on Mar 7, 2017 4:32:05 GMT -5
Everyone is saying new mm sucks bc it emphasizes getting most damage as opposed to capping... But maybe we're not truly appreciating how much 'more' important damage is than beacons. Of course u need a balanced approach.
Consider this: the strategy is NEVER just survive the longest, bc u don't win simply by being alive when time runs out. So that means u want to be focusing on beacons or damage from the get go, not just surviving (Natasha's w Noricum. I hope u die). So, u want bots that r strong for taking beacons or doing damage. But here's the thing...
When u destroy a bot and send them back to spawn, u can grab the close beacon they were defending whether u r a stalker or a fury. Thus only super heavy firepower bots are the only ones capable of performing both required roles of dealing high damage AND getting beacons. Thus since bots that do lots of damage r most strategically useful, damage itself comes out as a good stat for play quality.
Not saying beacon-running dedicated bots r useless. But certainly beacon-running dedicated lineups r just silly, and should b unless u want to change the game name to 'beacon-running robots'. Unless it's part of an overall team strategy or st.
I'm sorry u guys can't play crappy lineups anymore. The whole point of the developers job from the beginning was to make u buy a bunch of different bots. Luckily if u don't like this game... It is free...
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Post by Strayed on Mar 7, 2017 4:34:25 GMT -5
This should be in the rants board. Moved it for you.
Flame war in 3...2...1...
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 7, 2017 7:14:40 GMT -5
Oh jeez thanks for telling me my gold purchases were futile. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Thank you for your one sided opinion with no regard for the people affected by the change, who possibly lost heaps of money on "crappy lineups". Very thoughtful and sensitive of you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2017 8:20:10 GMT -5
We also say it sucks because we aren't allowed to use some of out favorite bots anymore. Along with the Rog, the Golem, Vityaz, Cossack, Gepard, Destrier, Sclutze, Patton and a lot of AG mediums are not useless and extinct.
I'd like to quote you on this "The whole point of the developers job from the beginning was to make u buy a bunch of different bots."
I can only use 6 bots / 20-30. Galahad, Fury, Carnage, Griffin, Rhino and sometimes Gareth. Is that a bunch or just a select few?
It's a shame that the majority of players don't have 12/12s and cannot bring themselves to the perspective of a lesser equipped player.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Mar 7, 2017 16:02:34 GMT -5
Also I can, and will, play my 'crappy lineups' constantly. And no-one can stop me! Hahaha! Plus I got another zenit kill this morning in my zenit/tulu/pinata golem. Delicious.
Your statement about dedicated beacon running lineups only makes sense from a team perspective. And by that, I agree that if the entire team ran ecu cossacks then yes, slaughter ensues. It would be funny though....
However, having a team member or two keeping an eye on beacons is a good and useful thing. Beacons, after all, come in two flavors: guarded and unguarded.
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Post by Strayed on Mar 7, 2017 22:07:41 GMT -5
In my opinion, I do agree with him on beacon capping setups, in the high tiers, there isn't really much a dedicated beacon capper can do outside of dying after looking at a trident fury funny and turning a beacon blue for five seconds.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2017 4:52:42 GMT -5
Well since he has it all figured out, maybe he wont post how clueless we really again. Mike Foxtrot Mike
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Post by osang on Mar 8, 2017 10:30:25 GMT -5
The new MM sucks. My bot lineup sucks. Earning low silver sucks. My wife sucks. Ooops.
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Mar 8, 2017 22:44:13 GMT -5
In my opinion, I do agree with him on beacon capping setups, in the high tiers, there isn't really much a dedicated beacon capper can do outside of dying after looking at a trident fury funny and turning a beacon blue for five seconds. I'm willing to concede your statement as I don't exist in the high tiers. I do, however, run an all light lineup, 8/8, in iOS Gold I and I've been quite successful. I have also screenshot just about every team screen afterwards (63 so far, forgot a couple times) and am putting the data in a sheet that as soon as I get a minute hope to pull data from to post on the forum. Of course, I'm happy sloshing around in Gold I and have little interest in pulling out my 'best hangar' and launching myself up the mountain. This is what I'm running and where I am as of a minute ago:
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Post by spawnreaper on Mar 8, 2017 23:12:13 GMT -5
Old mm gets my vote. I've said why on other threads not going to repeat myself.
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