Poll: Did you like the Old MM better or the New One? (2)

This. This. Cannot be repeated often enough. This.

Any and all other complaints aside, just by itself this is enough to kill the game for me. The primary reason I have (had!) for playing this game was to be able to play with some people I know IRL.

I'm a somewhat stronger player and my highest gear is higher than theirs, but in the old MM that didn't matter. We could all load up the same level gear and play. I even paid the coins to start a clan just so we could always play together.

Now? I'd have to tank brutally to lose, oh 800 league points so I could squad with them without causing them to get slaughtered. Think about that.

I suppose if you were comparing apples to apples...Judging a car that is 1/4 assembled vs a fully assembled one is absurd. Its obvious the MM is not even close to what Pix wants it to be - let it ripen.

Obvious troll is obvious. I don't know why I still bother.

It's been a month or so into the new MM, I'd say it's pretty much settled given the shift in priority on how to improve Leagues further (tanking/clubbing issues). Or rather how much time do you want players to give Pix? The current "improvements" (damage-control more like) are only urgently scheduled because Pix didn't have the foresight to curb said problems. The meek response by them on their Fb page has also explicitly stated that they're only just completing data collation from Leagues and are finally prepared to take the next step forward (no solutions as of yet mind you, still brainstorming for solutions) at this instant.

Btw, with your warped mindset, I could just as easily argue that the old MM wasn't entirely complete and that more improvements can be made. Ultimately, OP's question is pretty straightforward: Old (Gear) vs. New (Dmg). It's not apples and oranges, neither is it rocket science. Glad the board is pretty unanimous about the former.

While it is hardly flawless and needs fine tuning, I prefer the new matchmaker over the old one. I had only been playing a few weeks in the old system when the new one arrived and the painful deficiencies of the old one in the lower tiers wère already glaring to me. The prior system required you to artificially stunt your progression within certain bot and weapon levels and avoid lots of interesting bots or be chucked into the shark tank of the next tier(s). The granularity of progression was awful, providing way too much incentive to be a big fish in a small pond for a very long time.

Most importantly, my matches in the old system were way more lopsided (tons of cakewalks or crushing defeats). I might grumble now and then but the current system does a far better job of putting me in games with players who challenge but don't easily overwhelm me. Battles often go down to the wire now. I win about as much as I lose and I've slowly edged up in league points as my gear upgrades and I learn.

I like being able to run whatever bot I feel like and being matched based on my track record (i.e. what I can do with my bots), not suddenly chucked up a tier because a single bot or weapon upgrade tipped me over. When I got lucky in an event and won some britbots, I was able to field them after a few quick levelings instead of waiting the months it would take me to have a gold hangar. When my kid wanted to spend his allowance on a Gareth, it didn't screw his entire matchmaking.

I do wish some mechanism was in place to allow me to play with a handicapped hangar in a lower league with my young kid but honestly, I'm very happy that the new matchmaker let's him play fair matches and have fun solo instead of just being cannon fodder for mag geps or worse.

Maybe the old system was better for players with very high level hangars. I honestly wouldn't know. I do know that I'd have been less likely to have stuck with War Robots this long with the unpleasantly jagged progression patterns and clubbing of the old system.

Funny how standards change.

So a month after a global product rollout, which is a complete and total replacement of the old product, and one the developers have been working on feverishly for ages.....

It's too soon to judge because we 'haven't seen the finished product yet'.

Uh, if this isn't a finished playable reviewable judgeable stand-on-its-merits *product*, why did they release it into production?

My standard has been I like the new MM. That hasn't changed-And I have had my moments with the MM too. The only real issues I see are people who are allergic to change and get easily triggered about it...  Then then go off taking on a detrimental aspect in the game and on this forum. At this point I would be better served not coming here anymore...Frankly, It ain't worth the time to slog through emotionally fragile people here in relation to a game...I would be better off for it.

Why does any software company release anything...Cause Bill Gates always released a finished product.lol ..It will always be release it, get feedback and adjust..

The Q/A with Pix is admission of the fact that they are looking to alter the MM with new metrics. Some of those metrics can alter the "finished product", as you state, quite a bit.

Holding out on the hope that Pix will somehow return to the old MM at this point is just raising your expectations to places that only bring rage and blood pressure pills.

As a maxed player, I like the new MM as it consistently gives me close matches with similar pilots, which is a huge plus compared to the old MM when most matches (especially in a squad) were blowouts. I think there's likely some negativity bias at play in the poll here, although I admit that there are some good points made here that I hadn't even considered before reading this thread.

It kinda sucks when my 7/8 Death Button Griffin cannot even take out a 12/12 Galahad in 1 load at point blank. 

Actually I have maxed people complaining as well. They also don't like seeing underpowered folks in blue. Don't forget that it also makes life harder for them if the reds are all maxed.

That being said, some of the issues are not all due to MM. The league System DOES try to match according to skill. That sucks I know. Cos no matter how good u are, there is only so much you can do against a maxed pilot even if he sucks.

I'm not maxed but I have regularly outscored maxed pilots. But I know that in general it's not fair. What makes it worse is when some maxed pilots (who suck) suddenly realise they're not so good and tank just to "seal club" in lower leagues. Let's see how they tank now with leaver protection in place now.

OMG ...I am "affirming such said practices"...One out of the two of us likes the game. I am here because I like the game...what exactly are you doing?