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Posts: 1
Karma: 0
Pilot name: ⛧⛧ℳ☣ℵᵴҭ℮Ԇ⛧⛧
Platform: Android
League: Top
Favorite robot: Zeus
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Post by ҉ ℳ☣ℵᵴҭ℮Ԇ ҉ on Mar 5, 2017 11:09:43 GMT -5
Orkans and piñatas have been changed server-side to detonate at full range. Previously those weapons were set to detonate at target range, making it possible to outrun with light robots and certain mediums/heavies.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 5, 2017 11:20:13 GMT -5
This sucks. Its an indirect nerf of Galahad and Gareth
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 5, 2017 11:29:56 GMT -5
Would be interesting to see what a change like would do to Tridents.
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Post by Golden Sabre on Mar 5, 2017 11:35:00 GMT -5
This sucks. Its an indirect nerf of Galahad and Gareth Not if you run plasma  |
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 5, 2017 11:41:58 GMT -5
This sucks. Its an indirect nerf of Galahad and Gareth Not if you run plasma Yes it is. He's referring to those two bots' ability to outrun Pinata missiles, not them using them. |
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Post by blognio on Mar 5, 2017 11:45:08 GMT -5
so now we actually have to hit them?
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Post by Golden Sabre on Mar 5, 2017 11:46:25 GMT -5
In that case , I don't see a difference. Those bedamned rockets always seem to land square on my arse no matter what. It seems the only time this will matter is if said britbot is behind cover and the rockets fail to hit a surface close to it. Do we even have a reliable source for this info ? |
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Post by Golden Sabre on Mar 5, 2017 11:47:40 GMT -5
so now we actually have to hit them? Buh-bye splash damage |
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 5, 2017 11:52:52 GMT -5
So they are like bullets then?
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Post by Team Alpha Strike on Mar 5, 2017 12:07:13 GMT -5
I'm not understanding this --- if they explode a full range then you have to actually hit a target?
This change would be something I'd expect for the Trident, not Orkans or Pinatas.
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Post by The VVatcher on Mar 5, 2017 12:16:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure about this either.
So you can't splash damage people behind cover anymore? But then people can't back up against it anymore?
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phoenix232
GI. Patton
Posts: 132
Karma: 74
Pilot name: Phoenix-232
League: Diamond
Server Region: North America
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Post by phoenix232 on Mar 5, 2017 12:29:56 GMT -5
When did this happen? iOS or Android? Has there been any tests to confirm this?
Need a little more information.. A big change like that 'on a whim' seems sketchy.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 5, 2017 12:33:57 GMT -5
So they are like bullets then? Yes and no. Yes in that they will travel in the direction you aim them until they hit something, or reach their max range. No in that when they hit something or reach their max range, they explode and do splash damage. |
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Post by petevb on Mar 5, 2017 12:37:11 GMT -5
I was still outrunning Orks in a Galahad as of an hour ago on iOS?
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Post by Ⅎ₹ѺC₭₩ELDEℲ₹ on Mar 5, 2017 12:38:47 GMT -5
Ahh ok..so no proximity fuse...Tridents need the same.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 5, 2017 12:42:22 GMT -5
I was still outrunning Orks in a Galahad as of an hour ago on iOS? Indeed. Two things to discuss here: 1) What such a change would mean. That's mostly been what we're mulling over. 2) That's a serious change. Do we have serious evidence that it's happened? Not so sure on that one. |
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Post by wildboar on Mar 5, 2017 12:56:06 GMT -5
I read somewhere that they will explode at enemy range if the lock is used... I might be imagining that  |
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Pateras
Destrier
Posts: 122
Karma: 34
Pilot name: Pateras
Platform: Android
League: Diamond
Server Region: Europe
Favorite robot: Ancilot
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Post by Pateras on Mar 5, 2017 13:40:21 GMT -5
So unless your target is at 300m you wont do any damage?
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Post by gothopie on Mar 5, 2017 14:39:00 GMT -5
My take, if I understand it correctly:
Loss: Can't hit people hiding around corners (unless RIGHT at weapon range).
Any missed shots at close/mid range are gone, 0 damage (unless next to a wall/uneven ground)
Gain: Target running backwards can still be hit
Over all I do not like the idea of this change, and would prefer things stay as they are.
I think the optimal use for rockets will become jumping Griffs, the rockets (I HOPE) will explode when they hit the ground, all around the target, even if they "miss"
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Post by carnage on Mar 5, 2017 14:49:07 GMT -5
My take, if I understand it correctly: Loss: Can't hit people hiding around corners (unless RIGHT at weapon range). Any missed shots at close/mid range are gone, 0 damage (unless next to a wall/uneven ground) Gain: Target running backwards can still be hit Over all I do not like the idea of this change, and would prefer things stay as they are. I think the optimal use for rockets will become jumping Griffs, the rockets (I HOPE) will explode when they hit the ground, all around the target, even if they "miss" That would be bad news, the game is already invaded of Griffins everywhere. Giving them an additional advantage in comparison to other robots would make the problem even bigger. I'm not saying Griffins are OP, Gareth and Galahad are by far the most OP robots in the game. But you have to question if Griffin is also not somewhat OP since it is basically everywhere. Especially considering the Griffin is a silver bot... |
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Pateras
Destrier
Posts: 122
Karma: 34
Pilot name: Pateras
Platform: Android
League: Diamond
Server Region: Europe
Favorite robot: Ancilot
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Post by Pateras on Mar 5, 2017 14:50:59 GMT -5
This is total bull「dookie」. This will kill the game and wont give it any diversity.
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phoenix232
GI. Patton
Posts: 132
Karma: 74
Pilot name: Phoenix-232
League: Diamond
Server Region: North America
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Post by phoenix232 on Mar 5, 2017 14:53:47 GMT -5
Tested this on Android.. Bout ten games now. I can't see any evidence that this change has actually occurred. Missiles still detonate around targets just as they did before. Perhaps OP was underestimating the explosive trigger radius?
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Pateras
Destrier
Posts: 122
Karma: 34
Pilot name: Pateras
Platform: Android
League: Diamond
Server Region: Europe
Favorite robot: Ancilot
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Post by Pateras on Mar 5, 2017 15:57:47 GMT -5
Tested this on Android.. Bout ten games now. I can't see any evidence that this change has actually occurred. Missiles still detonate around targets just as they did before. Perhaps OP was underestimating the explosive trigger radius? I have also only noticed that the radius that the missiles explode is about 50% from Before and that is ok with me as long as they dont need direct hits. |
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Mar 5, 2017 16:44:02 GMT -5
Don't see this at all - an hour ago unloaded a dbg at a stationary db rhino while jumping backwards from about 200m away. He lost half his health, while I lost about 10k while his missiles exploded in front of me.
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dude
Destrier
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Karma: 26
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Post by dude on Mar 5, 2017 16:47:56 GMT -5
Not seeing them work this way on iOS. They work as they've always worked.
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Mar 5, 2017 17:04:57 GMT -5
Is there any reliable confirmation on this anywhere?
Or are we all getting worked up over a troll from a first-time poster here?
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popsicleandhammer
GI. Patton
Posts: 134
Karma: 75
Pilot name: Popsicle&Hammer
Platform: Android
Favorite robot: Rog
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Post by popsicleandhammer on Mar 5, 2017 19:20:18 GMT -5
If this change did happen, there is a pinata patton in my last game (painted bright red too) that needs his money back. My Cossack bounded to safety every time. (Android OS)
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