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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 4, 2017 17:19:32 GMT -5
What the heck is a "stuka"? And how did the name come about?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 17:23:07 GMT -5
Stuka is an Aphid Orkan Griffin.
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Mar 4, 2017 17:24:02 GMT -5
... something to do with dive-bombing I presume. :-)
"The Junkers Ju 87 or Stuka was a German dive bomber and ground-attack aircraft."
Isn't it related to the Griffin jumping up, unloading... repeat?
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 4, 2017 17:30:43 GMT -5
Would you say that aphid/orkan griffins are too passive to run 2 in a hangar?
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Post by [apotheosis] on Mar 4, 2017 18:14:38 GMT -5
Would you say that aphid/orkan griffins are too passive to run 2 in a hangar? I run two of them and my damage is up from the choice. A few volleys of aphids around a corner to soften em up, and then double orkan to seal the deal. Jump to escape when something goes wrong. Depends on the rest of your hanger I suppose but I am loving it. |
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Post by phoenix232 on Mar 4, 2017 18:37:17 GMT -5
I tried running two of them.. I found it a questionable choice. If I'm pulling rockets out, it's to do splash against shields. Aphids don't do that, leading to a split-capability bot - something typically frowned upon in the community.
Sure, you can get some aphid chip in, but taken by themselves for their typical application (anti shield), two orkans are a bit.. Weak? I can run a Rog that's faster, or a regular DB for the more concentrated firepower it brings when needed.
From my expierence, the output is good, but not great. The Stuka(sp?) shine on occasion, but never truly stand out as a premiere bot load out.
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Mar 4, 2017 18:42:15 GMT -5
Aphids have higher DPM than Pinatas, but thats theoretically speaking, since Aphids are dumb missiles and will not hit 100% of the salvo.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 18:44:52 GMT -5
Would you say that aphid/orkan griffins are too passive to run 2 in a hangar? Definitely not. |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 4, 2017 18:46:35 GMT -5
I dunno, i just found that you cant kill bots outright with the aphid/orkan griff like the classic DB can. A good bot of course, just takes up more time to get the job done.
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Post by ✧✦Ŋɫתʃɑ✦✧ on Mar 4, 2017 19:23:49 GMT -5
I dunno, i just found that you cant kill bots outright with the aphid/orkan griff like the classic DB can. A good bot of course, just takes up more time to get the job done. For every pro there is a con, also with Aphids you can start to damage your target earlier because of the 50m advantage, and reload sooner than Pinatas. I feel that Aphids makes Griffin last longer since you can poke from cover and not need to expose yourself too much, heavier bots have no chance to dodge Aphids anyways so the dumb precision isnt a thing. |
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Post by mechtout on Mar 4, 2017 19:26:00 GMT -5
Would you say that aphid/orkan griffins are too passive to run 2 in a hangar? That would be the splash bros |
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Post by ewing411 on Mar 4, 2017 22:30:51 GMT -5
... something to do with dive-bombing I presume. :-) "The Junkers Ju 87 or Stuka was a German dive bomber and ground-attack aircraft." Isn't it related to the Griffin jumping up, unloading... repeat? Now that you point this out it totally reminds me of WWII film footage of those dive bomb attacks. Someone's been watching too much of the History Channel. |
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Post by The VVatcher on Mar 4, 2017 22:34:27 GMT -5
I tried running two of them.. I found it a questionable choice. If I'm pulling rockets out, it's to do splash against shields. Aphids don't do that, leading to a split-capability bot - something typically frowned upon in the community. Some of its missiles tend to go over solid shields. And the Lance is so wide that it's bib can't cover enough of the spread. And because the opponent has to move a certain way to dodge them, the Griffin can swoop in and let's you anticipate easily where to lead your shots. The best part imo tho is how much damage it does to energy shields. So you can soften up an Ancilot before you dive in. Even if it's behind low covers like in Power Plant. |
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Post by Prowler on Mar 4, 2017 22:40:45 GMT -5
What the heck is a "stuka"? And how did the name come about? was wondering the same thing |
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 4, 2017 22:41:18 GMT -5
I dunno, i just found that you cant kill bots outright with the aphid/orkan griff like the classic DB can. A good bot of course, just takes up more time to get the job done. For every pro there is a con, also with Aphids you can start to damage your target earlier because of the 50m advantage, and reload sooner than Pinatas. I feel that Aphids makes Griffin last longer since you can poke from cover and not need to expose yourself too much, heavier bots have no chance to dodge Aphids anyways so the dumb precision isnt a thing. The aphids have utility in a number of situations where piñatas don't. The overall effect is you get more chances to do damage with the aphids and probably do more damage overall, but you give up some of a DB's 'home run swing'. |
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 4, 2017 22:42:53 GMT -5
What the heck is a "stuka"? And how did the name come about? was wondering the same thing There was a contest on the forum. The name was suggested and decided on in a forum thread, right here.
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Post by Prowler on Mar 4, 2017 22:49:19 GMT -5
... something to do with dive-bombing I presume. :-) "The Junkers Ju 87 or Stuka was a German dive bomber and ground-attack aircraft." Isn't it related to the Griffin jumping up, unloading... repeat? isn't that what a DB & RDB are doing ? |
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 4, 2017 22:54:32 GMT -5
... something to do with dive-bombing I presume. :-) "The Junkers Ju 87 or Stuka was a German dive bomber and ground-attack aircraft." Isn't it related to the Griffin jumping up, unloading... repeat? isn't that what a DB & RDB are doing ? Just shooting rockets could be any ground attack aircraft. Firing aphids mid leap, watching them arc down above shields..... Like a dive bomber dropping bombs. Adds a certain something. |
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Post by Prowler on Mar 4, 2017 23:35:18 GMT -5
isn't that what a DB & RDB are doing ? Just shooting rockets could be any ground attack aircraft. Firing aphids mid leap, watching them arc down above shields..... Like a dive bomber dropping bombs. Adds a certain something. still why stuka ? A griff does belong to the TMF not GER fraction. Its like putting a croc skin on a gepard (leopard) stay within the theme FCOL. Curtiss SB2C "Helldiver" or the Douglas SBD "Dauntless" and if you like the wing design the Douglas BTD Destroyer has the same bend wings as a stuka. Small detail the griff's design is based on the Boeing B-29 Superfortress bomber.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 4, 2017 23:50:05 GMT -5
Just shooting rockets could be any ground attack aircraft. Firing aphids mid leap, watching them arc down above shields..... Like a dive bomber dropping bombs. Adds a certain something. still why stuka ? A griff does belong to the TMF not GER fraction. Its like putting a croc skin on a gepard (leopard) stay within the theme FCOL. Curtiss SB2C "Helldiver" or the Douglas SBD "Dauntless" and if you like the wing design the Douglas BTD Destroyer has the same bend wings as a stuka. Small detail the griff's design is based on the Boeing B-29 Superfortress bomber.
Chill. A name is a name. |
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Post by Paps on Mar 5, 2017 0:05:43 GMT -5
I didn't think it was that big a deal, boy howdy. Stuka is the go-to when people think dive bomber, regardless of national origin. I think it's fitting. So do a majority of people who voted in the poll, there's also that.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 5, 2017 0:34:15 GMT -5
Just shooting rockets could be any ground attack aircraft. Firing aphids mid leap, watching them arc down above shields..... Like a dive bomber dropping bombs. Adds a certain something. still why stuka ? A griff does belong to the TMF not GER fraction. Its like putting a croc skin on a gepard (leopard) stay within the theme FCOL. Curtiss SB2C "Helldiver" or the Douglas SBD "Dauntless" and if you like the wing design the Douglas BTD Destroyer has the same bend wings as a stuka. Small detail the griff's design is based on the Boeing B-29 Superfortress bomber.
Factions are dead, nobody cares. And yes, a name is a name. False on the B-29. Not even a mild resemblance. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handley_Page_Victor |
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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 5, 2017 0:54:59 GMT -5
was wondering the same thing There was a contest on the forum. The name was suggested and decided on in a forum thread, right here.
Yep, the stuka name was just something picked in a forum poll of a few dozen users a few weeks ago, mostly in response to another popular hybrid build getting regularly used name (the Hellfire rhino - mag orkan). Several names got tossed out and some were put in a poll. Unlike DB/PDB/RDB (which are widespread in use), I don't think it has really spread much beyond this forum (and even here, it's just as likely to get called an ADB/aphid death button or aphid orkan). Some folks do like and use it. I've never heard one of the YouTubers adopt the name in their videos or heard a clan mate use the term. |
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Post by The VVatcher on Mar 5, 2017 12:11:25 GMT -5
. Its like putting a croc skin on a gepard (leopard) stay within the theme FCOL [/p][/quote] Lol I didn't think about that Anyway, they also took the name RDB from us ? |
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Mar 5, 2017 14:35:14 GMT -5
I was runnin an orkan/aphid Griffin.. Didnt like it so much.I switches the orkans out for tarans. Now she's Daddy's little murder factory. I know everyone on the forum is in love with orkans. But i aint particularly fond of them.
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 5, 2017 14:39:13 GMT -5
I was runnin an orkan/aphid Griffin.. Didnt like it so much.I switches the orkans out for tarans. Now she's Daddy's little murder factory. I know everyone on the forum is in love with orkans. But i aint particularly fond of them. i dont like using orkans either. Hell, I hate them. One wrong move woth them and you'll be unloading your salvo into the air, having to wait for another reload pretty much defenseless. |
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Post by DirtyLikaRat® on Mar 5, 2017 14:42:45 GMT -5
I was runnin an orkan/aphid Griffin.. Didnt like it so much.I switches the orkans out for tarans. Now she's Daddy's little murder factory. I know everyone on the forum is in love with orkans. But i aint particularly fond of them. i dont like using orkans either. Hell, I hate them. One wrong move woth them and you'll be unloading your salvo into the air, having to wait for another reload pretty much defenseless. Agreed. They a major pain in the hind quarters. Especially when doing an airborne attack. They trail off of target easily |
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 5, 2017 14:44:43 GMT -5
Agreed. They a major pain in the hind quarters. Especially when doing an airborne attack. They trail off of target easily unfortunately they are fairly necessary, in te fact that they take out most shield bot setups the most efficiently. |
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