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Post by amidf on Mar 20, 2017 20:40:37 GMT -5
I'm glad this thread has been resurrected because I'm sure all the people we see complaining about how it was possible to lose 20 pts but not win 20 points are ready to jump back in and praise the new symmetrical point system!
-Amid
Edit: typos
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 20, 2017 22:52:30 GMT -5
I'm glad this thread has been resurrected because I'm sure all the people we see complaining about how it was possible to lose 20 pts but not win 20 points are ready to jump back in and oraise the bew symmetrical point system! -Amid I like it. The participation trophies for the losing side was just too PC for me. Losing is always 50% of the game. The real losers are the people who can't accept that fact and cry and throw a hissy fit about it. We just call those types p*ssies where I'm from. |
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Post by zr on Mar 20, 2017 23:29:49 GMT -5
Just manage to climb up a league, silver 2 up to silver 1.
Could not quite do this in the last MM.
Manage it with the new MM.
Did not last long, already back down to sliver 2. Got my 70 gold.
Unless you pay for upgrades, no way of upgrading fast enough to play a higher league.
I don't know what level silver 1 would be, I see a lot of gold league players.
I was playing with 8/8 hangar.
Lost the incentive to play now, in theory would be better to tank now, until next months new league.
I won't tank not my style.
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 21, 2017 5:30:26 GMT -5
zrDoing the same at the moment, up/down up/down. But it no longer bothers me. Because I know that eventually my equipment is going to catch up. But in the mean time I'm learning valuable lessons about cover, not sticking my head out so much and making myself a target, combining fire with other players to take down opponents quickly, that sort of stuff. Maybe by the time my bots are upgraded to a decent level I can compete at the higher levels. Right now when I play with my high silver and above clanmates I feel like a shaved ewe thrown into a pool of ravenous pirahna. I'm always lowest scorer and feel cr*ppy when my team loses because I know I should have done better but simply didn't measure up skill or equipment wise. But my momma didn't raise no quitter. I'll get there eventually. Just got my 60Au for low silver. It was a real surprise to me considering not 24 hrs earlier I was just a lowly private. But I'm a yoyoer. I play all my bots according to my mood. So I get kicked down quite a bit. I figure it's Pixonic's problem, not mine. They shouldn't have made playing with light bots so much fun without providing the rewards for their proper usage as well. I like beacon hunting. It's the #1 objective to the matches. Problem is finding people who do the same and protect them so I haven't wasted my efforts getting them so we can win. I also enjoy the ability to snipe. It rarely gets me high damage points but it's very satisfying just to drop opposing players armor and royally tick the opponents off or simply make the timid even timider. I don't understand why people with a couple of snipers on their team get ticked off because they can't take enough beacons or kill enough bots to win the match. Instead they want to blame the guy trying to cover their 「bum-bum」es for their failures. Awesome. Noone will believe this but those of us who played it because noone bothered to record it, but the other day a couple of my clanmates and three other clan players all dropped into Yama with nothing but snipers. Won the match in less than 7 min losing not one bot and all but one of us ending up in the enemy's spawn point. I laughed so hard my sides still ache. I'll never believe that snipers are why my team loses from that point to infinity.
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Post by amidf on Mar 21, 2017 9:00:15 GMT -5
Just manage to climb up a league, silver 2 up to silver 1. Could not quite do this in the last MM. Manage it with the new MM. Did not last long, already back down to sliver 2. Got my 70 gold. Unless you pay for upgrades, no way of upgrading fast enough to play a higher league. Time. -Amid |
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Post by Still Learning on Mar 21, 2017 10:02:29 GMT -5
I would agree with you, except that I've collected data after my solo games, and I review the profile of every one of my "teammates", as well as those from my opponent. When my opponents are all maxed, and most of my teammates are level 8 and 9, with level 8 weapons, that is textbook "not fair". So, I grab 6 beacons, and triple their scores. My reward? -15. Meanwhile, a player who "earned" positive points on the other team, scored 87,000 and most likely lost connection or quit. I guess he "earned" his points? I have no problem giving everyone on a winning team something positive. Even if they were just tag-alongs. But effort on the losing squad should be rewarded, unless you finished third on your team. Pixonic had it perfect until the last update. At least for good players who weren't afraid to play alone. They are a dying breed now. Most of the good players you will only see when they are in a full squad. If you're actually playing games where you are all 8/8 and your opponents r mostly maxed- congrats, you have better tactics than most people playing. It should mean that by the time u r maxed out, your win % will start to rise well above 50. This doesn't make the game unfair, it makes it more challenging. If u want fair, u have to max your gear- that makes sense bc this is a pay2win game. In the meantime, I can't help but point out the irony that you're arguing u should get some points for contribution even if u lose, bc u can get so many beacons and still go down in points- that was exactly the argument beacon runner people used to say the old system was messed up, bc u could lose a game but still get + points just for being top in damage. I suppose what you might b trying to say is that rank and points in general should b sorted based on beacons more. But then everyone would only need the cheap light bots to advance in points- and that means fewer heavy purchases (as well as fewer weapon purchases)AND cheaper upgrade costs, all of which spells trouble for pixonic. You want to know what's fair- this game is free! Edit: and u know that doesn't really make the game broken, bc theoretically if u pay enough u will have all the max level gear u want, at which point u can balance your hangar and focus on win%. It makes sense that if it's pay2win, u have to either pay or play a TON b4 the rankings r meaningful. Until then, lower rankings r all basically skewed by people spending money, which makes sense, since they should literally b able to pay to win more. I don't think you're understanding me. I am maxed. Most of my teammates are not even close to being maxed. In my league, you won't win that way. Ever. So, you are correct in that it makes the game more challenging for me, the same way that banging your head against a wall is challenging. I can play the game of a lifetime, but my team won't win in my league against a full, maxed, squad. And also, in my league, cheap light bots won't get you the beacons. They will give you the first one or two, before the battle starts. Then, they will hurt the squad because they will be easily destroyed, when they could have been a heavy bot that deals some damage. That's why I haven't seen a stalker in my league in about 5 months. An exception to this is the gareth. So, focusing on winning percentage is what I do every battle. So, if I'm paired up with bad players, I shouldn't be punished for that. I should be rewarded for putting up a fight (not dealing the most damage -- putting up a fight). |
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Post by whatttupG on Mar 21, 2017 11:05:02 GMT -5
I have to finish first or second to consistently get anywhere? Great system. Forget the hurt-bus, this approach is straight from the short bus. Whoever designed this point system is clearly familiar with it. This is not targeted at whatttupg but THIS POST is one of the more ignorant I've seen on the issue. It's embarrassing u don't understand just how well the system works; and even if it has flaws, u seem to ignore the pay2win aspect of the game? U know what, I think u should put your resume in to pixonic and tell them all about your new idea how by implementing more points for cheap light bots into the ranking system, it will become more fair and thus make more money for the company. But I suppose u just don't bc they would probably just stare back at you in their seizure helmets, drooling and karate chopping their chests Equally embarrassing how much of a horse's end you've made your self out to be, in your non pointed jabs from some soap box stance. FYI usually when someone disagrees, it tends to indicate an above average understanding of the topic and real world experience to back it up. Hint: this is the case. Perhaps your wizardry can accompany take your opinion back to grade school, where you can repeat English, it they still teach it. |
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Post by amidf on Mar 21, 2017 11:08:59 GMT -5
I don't think you're understanding me. I am maxed. Most of my teammates are not even close to being maxed. In my league, you won't win that way. Ever. So, you are correct in that it makes the game more challenging for me, the same way that banging your head against a wall is challenging. I can play the game of a lifetime, but my team won't win in my league against a full, maxed, squad. And also, in my league, cheap light bots won't get you the beacons. They will give you the first one or two, before the battle starts. Then, they will hurt the squad because they will be easily destroyed, when they could have been a heavy bot that deals some damage. That's why I haven't seen a stalker in my league in about 5 months. An exception to this is the gareth. So, focusing on winning percentage is what I do every battle. So, if I'm paired up with bad players, I shouldn't be punished for that. I should be rewarded for putting up a fight (not dealing the most damage -- putting up a fight). So you often fight against full squads as a random? And those squads tend to be maxed while your random teammates can vary? Sounds rough. Only solution I can see is to play in squads yourself. I assume this has knocked you back and you are around 50% wins, but the wins you do get are usually largely due to your actions. -Amid |
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Post by zr on Mar 21, 2017 11:24:53 GMT -5
@amid Not only time! The other 5 players on your team make or break you. As you do them!
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Post by WHOPHARDED on Mar 22, 2017 0:22:43 GMT -5
I feel like my opponents sandbagged to get lower placement in the league bracket.
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Post by Tonka on Mar 22, 2017 0:31:43 GMT -5
@amid Not only time! The other 5 players on your team make or break you. As you do them!  Hate it!!!!! |
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Post by HEATHEN HERETIC on Mar 22, 2017 5:35:41 GMT -5
I haven't been mismatched beyond my hanger capabilities by much while soloing unless I squad with higher ranked players. I'm in the high bronze/low silver bracket but if paired with any player/s of a higher ranking I find that nearly every single opposing player is at my teammates level or higher, making it really tough if my team has no other players to match them. I think some work still needs to be done to level out each side in some matches. But overall I'm pretty happy with how my solo matches have been mixed thus far. I think I'll just stick to soloing for awhile. That's if the frustration levels with the game's morons, idiots & fools doesn't drive me to chuck my tablet against the wall. Here's my message to those 「bum-bum」hats. "GRAB THE F***ING BEACONS, YOU F***ING F***ED F***TARDS!!!"
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