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Post by cav8r on Mar 16, 2019 14:05:00 GMT -5
Started already low 40% War Robots boosted myself to the teeth, played for 2 and a half hours straight eand ended up at 30% War Robots
Kept 900k average dmg and 2 to 3 bcs per match, always 1st to 3rd. and only won ONCE
75% of matches had 2, 3, or full red squads
Not a single match was I allocated to complement a squad, EVERY SIGLE TIME they where reds
When not squads All the big clan Names (CORE, MIJ, 1%, TOXIN, KHAOS, MOAB, TB, OMEGA and so on) where on the red side.
A few times there was one on blue side (NEVER MORE THAN ONE) the rest a bunch of nobodys like myself
It never ceases to amaze me how far can this Pricksonics MF go to 「fluffernutter」 us
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Post by RedRaider on Mar 16, 2019 14:14:57 GMT -5
And so this is how PIX is forcing the boosters. Those players are boosted too and that is what you have to consider on every match. Frankly I dont boost unless I know I am playing for 30 minutes. Usually just the basics keys, honor points, defense and offense. I rarely have a silver boost.
We nonboosted players just have to outplay the handicapped players.
Boosters and mods are forcing players to either pay or get better skills.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 14:41:01 GMT -5
I doubt that what you're seeing is the result of being boosted. Seems counterintuitive given Pixonics track record. More likely, it's your regularly scheduled mm beatdown (happens to me top) that's taking effect. Also, when people (not just you) face squads more than they feel they should, they're usually not considering the probability distribution, i.e. a match has a 5-man squad and 7 randoms - given random distribution you will be against the squad 86% of the time.
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Post by Garbage game on Mar 16, 2019 15:10:42 GMT -5
I loaded up some key boosters, Ag boosters, and attack/defence ones last night and grinded 30m worth of games. Won once lol. Was seeing a lot of players from top clans like Cdxx, 1%, Next
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Post by cav8r on Mar 16, 2019 16:12:06 GMT -5
I doubt that what you're seeing is the result of being boosted. Seems counterintuitive given Pixonics track record. More likely, it's your regularly scheduled mm beatdown (happens to me top) that's taking effect. Also, when people (not just you) face squads more than they feel they should, they're usually not considering the probability distribution, i.e. a match has a 5-man squad and 7 randoms - given random distribution you will be against the squad 86% of the time. That’s a good point and your math on the squad vs randoms adds up, however, I guess it might be pure coincidence that when not boosted I can keep around 50% and up to 60 War Robots, and some 2 or 3 man squads and clan big names are on my side...I guess that for months I have casually managed to boost myself precisely when MM is about to start my beat down cycle. (Sarcasm) maybe it is just happening to me cos the pricks algorithm knows I’m low on Ag and trying to grind, I don’t know man! I didn’t track all the numbers like T34 or kukurukuc do but I been assessing the behavior for months and after today I have no doubt left in my mind as you do my friend...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2019 17:45:02 GMT -5
I doubt that what you're seeing is the result of being boosted. Seems counterintuitive given Pixonics track record. More likely, it's your regularly scheduled mm beatdown (happens to me top) that's taking effect. Also, when people (not just you) face squads more than they feel they should, they're usually not considering the probability distribution, i.e. a match has a 5-man squad and 7 randoms - given random distribution you will be against the squad 86% of the time. That’s a good point and your math on the squad vs randoms adds up, however, I guess it might be pure coincidence that when not boosted I can keep around 50% and up to 60 War Robots, and some 2 or 3 man squads and clan big names are on my side...I guess that for months I have casually managed to boost myself precisely when MM is about to start my beat down cycle. (Sarcasm) maybe it is just happening to me cos the pricks algorithm knows I’m low on Ag and trying to grind, I don’t know man! I didn’t track all the numbers like T34 or kukurukuc do but I been assessing the behavior for months and after today I have no doubt left in my mind as you do my friend... Yeah, I get what you’re saying... There is no doubt in my mind that pix has some real fuzzy logic somewhere deep within the insanity of the mm, so I’m not saying you’re wrong - I’m only saying that it’s not what happens to me when I boost or not boost.
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Post by SuperHero on Mar 16, 2019 20:07:05 GMT -5
That’s a good point and your math on the squad vs randoms adds up, however, I guess it might be pure coincidence that when not boosted I can keep around 50% and up to 60 War Robots, and some 2 or 3 man squads and clan big names are on my side...I guess that for months I have casually managed to boost myself precisely when MM is about to start my beat down cycle. (Sarcasm) maybe it is just happening to me cos the pricks algorithm knows I’m low on Ag and trying to grind, I don’t know man! I didn’t track all the numbers like T34 or kukurukuc do but I been assessing the behavior for months and after today I have no doubt left in my mind as you do my friend... Yeah, I get what you’re saying... There is no doubt in my mind that pix has some real fuzzy logic somewhere deep within the insanity of the mm, so I’m not saying you’re wrong - I’m only saying that it’s not what happens to me when I boost or not boost. Bro, That’s cos even without boosts ur already boosted! Lol.... Ur league Is so high that regardless of boosts ur gonna be the kinda player the lower champs get thrown against as fodder. Lol
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Post by cav8r on Mar 17, 2019 5:58:25 GMT -5
Yeah, I get what you’re saying... There is no doubt in my mind that pix has some real fuzzy logic somewhere deep within the insanity of the mm, so I’m not saying you’re wrong - I’m only saying that it’s not what happens to me when I boost or not boost. Bro, That’s cos even without boosts ur already boosted! Lol.... Ur league Is so high that regardless of boosts ur gonna be the kinda player the lower champs get thrown against as fodder. Lol Nailed it lol...
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Post by T34 on Mar 17, 2019 18:54:38 GMT -5
I reckon boosters affect MM-ing too but I cannot quantify the effects. I have this suspicion that boosted people get matched with other boosteds. But i have no evidence so its nothing more than conjecture.
However, as mentioned by others (like @nixpilot especially ) there are most likely several other things also going on amongst which the most prominent is the MM-er beat down. The beat down cycle is so severe that even boosters wont get you past the line. And even if they would, the effects would be temporary and the follow up beat down would be even harsher (with or without boosters).
Irrespective of what the answer is ⢠Do not boost until the up cycle starts. ⢠There is no benefit to using performance boosters unless you are always using them or you are in or very close to the top competitive zone. ⢠Use them in squad Also when you are in the beat down cycle you might consider tanking if you are the kind that gets frustrated. If you are against tanking than throw some fun bots in and the loss will be more acceptable as a result of using weaker bots/weapons. It will get you through the 「dookie」ty allocation quicker, league points loss will be minimised after the loss of well under 100 points and you are not wasting time and frustrating yourself. It makes no difference to your team mates either because 80% of the time the outcome is going to be the same with or without your involvement. The only time this is not an acceptable strategy is when you are determined to climb the leagues.
Iâve been looking at the current cycle (different to the beat downs of the past) and it seems like MM-er cuddles come in groups of six games where despite of next to zero involvement 4 or 5 out of 6 games is a win. On a beat down Iâd say pay attention and see if there are signs associated with the MM-er cuddle. After the cuddle phase, you will get semi balanced games till the beat down.
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Post by Racerx7394 on Mar 18, 2019 16:03:00 GMT -5
I don't see any correlation. There could be an impact if you are running damage or health boosters. I have been running resource boosters lately (mostly silver) and I don't see any difference. I am in low champions league and the rules seem to be different for champions league in several ways.
As T34 said, use them when you after you get the beat down, usually around 40%, except for champions league. I don't see the MM working to keep me at 50/50 very well. It's currently beat me down to 24% and still matched against full top squads.
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Post by psychopsyd on Mar 18, 2019 20:30:08 GMT -5
I quit using boosters when I was running out...no other changes...inside of a day I went from 30-38% wins to 50-60% and have been staying in the 50% range for 2 weeks...
There is no way I got that good or lucky out of the blue...
Maybe it doesn't happen like that for everyone...but I'm not running them...
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Post by cav8r on Mar 19, 2019 17:19:59 GMT -5
I reckon boosters affect MM-ing too but I cannot quantify the effects. I have this suspicion that boosted people get matched with other boosteds. But i have no evidence so its nothing more than conjecture. However, as mentioned by others (like @nixpilot especially ) there are most likely several other things also going on amongst which the most prominent is the MM-er beat down. The beat down cycle is so severe that even boosters wont get you past the line. And even if they would, the effects would be temporary and the follow up beat down would be even harsher (with or without boosters). Irrespective of what the answer is â?¢ Do not boost until the up cycle starts. â?¢ There is no benefit to using performance boosters unless you are always using them or you are in or very close to the top competitive zone. â?¢ Use them in squad Also when you are in the beat down cycle you might consider tanking if you are the kind that gets frustrated. If you are against tanking than throw some fun bots in and the loss will be more acceptable as a result of using weaker bots/weapons. It will get you through the ?dookie?ty allocation quicker, league points loss will be minimised after the loss of well under 100 points and you are not wasting time and frustrating yourself. It makes no difference to your team mates either because 80% of the time the outcome is going to be the same with or without your involvement. The only time this is not an acceptable strategy is when you are determined to climb the leagues. Iâ??ve been looking at the current cycle (different to the beat downs of the past) and it seems like MM-er cuddles come in groups of six games where despite of next to zero involvement 4 or 5 out of 6 games is a win. On a beat down Iâ??d say pay attention and see if there are signs associated with the MM-er cuddle. After the cuddle phase, you will get semi balanced games till the beat dow Well....sighs...After the incessant boosted bit down , since I won 3 battles in a row it looked like I had started winning again, so as you recommended, I boosted again for one hour thinking it was going to be the up cycle, guess what? Bit down again the whole hour...
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Post by cav8r on Mar 19, 2019 17:22:54 GMT -5
I quit using boosters when I was running out...no other changes...inside of a day I went from 30-38% wins to 50-60% and have been staying in the 50% range for 2 weeks... There is no way I got that good or lucky out of the blue... Maybe it doesn't happen like that for everyone...but I'm not running them... That happened to me before the experience I posted, I was doing good for a long period until I decided to boost. Oh boy! It was like I grabbed Stan’s sister butt or something...
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Post by psychopsyd on Mar 20, 2019 6:41:45 GMT -5
I quit using boosters when I was running out...no other changes...inside of a day I went from 30-38% wins to 50-60% and have been staying in the 50% range for 2 weeks... There is no way I got that good or lucky out of the blue... Maybe it doesn't happen like that for everyone...but I'm not running them... That happened to me before the experience I posted, I was doing good for a long period until I decided to boost. Oh boy! It was like I grabbed Stan’s sister butt or something... Stan would get mad at that ... He wants his sister's butt all to himself...
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