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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 2, 2017 11:54:54 GMT -5
I think now that the leagues are up and running that we should update the definitions regularly used on this thread just so peeps are all on the same page.
Tanking - The act of intentionally losing a match to drop your league ranking. Usually done by ditching or idling. (I have excluded beacon capping here as actively trying to win will earn you 2 cups even with no damage given).
Capper - One who specializes in capping beacons.
I also think we need new terms to define say a pure ECU Cossack beacon capper as opposed to say a balance capper with Garies, Carnies and stalkers. Capper is too generalized of a term. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 12:19:01 GMT -5
Tanking - Can be done by ditching or capping and involves what the above post said.
Idling - Sitting at spawn the entire game, usually resulting in a loss. Might result in a loss, depending on how good your team is.
Ditching - Leaving the match after 1-2 minutes. Always results in -20.
Capping - Aiming for capture as many beacons as possible while doing as little damage as possible. Might result in a loss (-20) or a win (+5 gold and +1-2 rating points)
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 13:17:32 GMT -5
Tanking - The act of intentionally losing a match to drop your league ranking.
Yes. Any time a player is not using their top damage scoring hangar, they are tanking (win or lose). |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 13:38:47 GMT -5
Tanking - The act of intentionally losing a match to drop your league ranking.
Yes. Any time a player is not using their top damage scoring hangar, they are tanking (win or lose). So if I use a Trident Carnage instead of my Trident Fury, am I tanking? |
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 2, 2017 13:50:53 GMT -5
Tanking - The act of intentionally losing a match to drop your league ranking.
Yes. Any time a player is not using their top damage scoring hangar, they are tanking (win or lose). So If I hold a beacon instead running down the center and try mech out everyone I'm tanking? Sniping from the back or lobbing zenits, I'm tanking. I could go on too |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 14:13:36 GMT -5
Yes. Any time a player is not using their top damage scoring hangar, they are tanking (win or lose). So If I hold a beacon instead running down the center and try mech out everyone I'm tanking? Sniping from the back or lobbing zenits, I'm tanking. I could go on too LMFAO. Lobbing Zenits is always tanking. Carefully reread what I wrote and you will see that I agree with you. |
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Post by Cdr. Crimmins on Mar 2, 2017 14:28:35 GMT -5
Take note people!
Heavy hardpoint? Thunder or Trident or you're tanking.
Medium? Orkan. We might give a pass for a Tauran but remember to keep that plasma flowing!
Light? Piñata. Aphids. Magnums. Or get out.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 2, 2017 14:50:18 GMT -5
So If I hold a beacon instead running down the center and try mech out everyone I'm tanking? Sniping from the back or lobbing zenits, I'm tanking. I could go on too LMFAO. Lobbing Zenits is always tanking. Carefully reread what I wrote and you will see that I agree with you. Ok you got me there. But technically that's camping. |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 15:06:03 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 15:12:21 GMT -5
No, blastronaut, I think running different bots for variety or experimentation is not Tanking. Anyone can run suboptimal gear so long as they try to win once they are in battle. It is how you drive the bots on the field that determines if you are Tanking or not. |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 15:20:12 GMT -5
No, blastronaut , I think running different bots for variety or experimentation is not Tanking. Anyone can run suboptimal gear so long as they try to win once they are in battle. It is how you drive the bots on the field that determines if you are Tanking or not. Its a gray area. Running suboptimal gear to control your damage output (not gain too many league points) is tanking. It's a little hard to differentiate. I'd say if you are just experimenting with different setups on one bot out of a hangar of 4 or 5 while still trying your best to win, that would not be tanking. If you are swapping out a something like a Lancelot for a Golem, it's a straight up tank job. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 15:32:25 GMT -5
blastronaut, agreed it is a grey area. But here's the thing - if I am teamed up with a Golem, and that Golem fights like an angry badger, then my gaming experience is not impacted at all. I would never know that pilot left a Lance out of his hangar for that battle. But if a Lance driver stays at spawn, parks in a corner, and never engages the enemy, then his in-game behavior is affecting those around him. I see your point, that intentionally controlling your damage output is a form of lowering your overall effectiveness to manipulate league score, but I really define Tanking in terms of how it affects others in the game itself.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 15:44:36 GMT -5
@heavypanda don't just consider your teammates on Blue, if you are dropping your league score you will be facing weaker players than you should on Red.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 15:52:31 GMT -5
True, blastronaut, but if you fight your best, I maintain it doesn't matter what you drive. Your point is that if you use the golem to drop, so that you can then insert Lance and fight guys at low levels, then okay, that would qualify as something - more of a slow decent though. |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 15:57:44 GMT -5
True, blastronaut , but if you fight your best, I maintain it doesn't matter what you drive. Your point is that if you use the golem to drop, so that you can then insert Lance and fight guys at low levels, then okay, that would qualify as something - more of a slow decent though. It all depends on what your established league is. In respect to where the MM has placed you, you will always be hurting the Blues on the way down and Clubbing Reds on the way up. everytime. You should really defer to me here because I am an expert on this topic, I have tanked more than most. At the end of the day, it's all pretty much the same. |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Mar 2, 2017 16:01:49 GMT -5
Smurfing: Pretending to be a new player in order to be matched against inexperienced opponents, usually involving starting a new account.
Sandbagging: Choosing to not play your best, usually to set up your opponents for hustling.
Twinking: Exploiting equipment systems to give low level characters high level gear.
None of these things can be perfectly applied to War Robots, but all of them are closely related to things in War Robots that's bothering so many of us. I'm afraid any attempt at building a consensus of definitions is doomed to endless prattle due to differing opinions. It all depends on what your definition of "is" is.
Tanking (MMORPG): Playing a low to medium damage and high endurance defensive character, intended to keep the attention of the majority of hostile units and 'boss' so that support characters can lay waste unhindered.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 16:03:53 GMT -5
Yes, i know your credentials on the subject blastronaut. Its an interesting philosophical discussion - whether being a demon in a golem, while leaving a Lance on the bench, makes you a tanker. I still think it does not, but I will let it go. Cheers mate. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 16:07:06 GMT -5
I'm afraid any attempt at building a consensus of definitions is doomed to endless prattle due to differing opinions. "Endless prattle due to differing opinions" is not the forum's motto? Anyway, good prattling with you blastronaut |
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