[NovR]101Rangers
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Post by [NovR]101Rangers on Mar 2, 2017 12:48:28 GMT -5
Most likely the game and the league system will continue to evolve. Things might get better. Meanwhile just play and enjoy it your way. I did. You can also try stuff you don't normally do - knife fighting, MR, ambush, capping. Learn to use different bots and setups. Become a more all-rounded player. Try getting demoted and promoted. Think iutside the box. Have fun
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Post by boomsplat on Mar 2, 2017 12:51:03 GMT -5
yes,,maybe i go little harsh with the guy with the song...it is cool song btw;) And i was thinking that this is General Discussion so we could talk about game and what we like and do not like but for some is just a joke i see. I relly love this game,,got me hook up first time i play and hurt me to go from tactical game in just one big mess....and was hoping to see if im the only one who see that new system leauge is ruinning the game......just grownup Discussion.....so kids please just go around this theme....thank you......... Yes the game has changed and will continue to change. I still like the old version better but I don't control that decision. The game play and premise is still there....it is just hyper competitive for me now so the desire for casual gaming is lost....I play a lot less because I can't do mindless gaming, but the graphics and fun of running bots is still there. so if you want to discuss it, saying you are leaving is a not a discussion, it is a declaration. Saying you are on the fence about leaving and looking for reasons to stay or go prompts discussion....as others have said, saying you are leaving and then sticking around means you have no idea of what you are really doing so why bother discussing it with you.
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Post by SlowReflexes on Mar 2, 2017 13:02:29 GMT -5
What is the catch with video....i saw this guy joker Saltesers just posting some nonesense music video on others people threds...now you..dont get it at all.....why spam ? Are you competing who will make more post,,is it a new game.....or just promoting some singers on lots of forums......relly would love to know? No, if you took it the wrong way then sorry. It was just a funny way of encouraging you to not worry so much about the league points but just to enjoy the matches. Because this is still a pretty cool game all complaints (and I've complained too) aside.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 13:08:10 GMT -5
nettrick If you want your teammates to care about beacons you are out of luck. Losing league points isnt a bad thing though, eventually you'll be playing in a League your your avg damage while holding beacons will match the avg your teammates get while suiciding into the Reds. I'll miss having you in the higher leagues to absorb the -20 points when we lose though.
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Post by loren on Mar 2, 2017 13:16:00 GMT -5
So..it is like this ,,,to exsplain my self a bit. I am team player..love tactic and strategy play...love to catch beacons ,,hold them defend them get opponents away from them cause i love them blue;) Cause of this new system league counting points i get no points and im a valuble player in team....my score is often that damage dont go over 300k(it cant go cause i holding beacons)i get ,4 or 5 kills and 4 beacons in average...................and when we win i get 3 points and when we loose i get -15 ponst....so you see where i going with this...no point to play strategic game. Now is just mess in gameplay,,,guys dont care about beacons ,,just passing next to them( i saw it many times)and go for damage to be in top 3 rank when match is over,,no matter if they win or loose for them is important to be in first 3 to secure points. From amazing tactical game you made a mess...you bring savages ............ I invest money in this game and i would invest more but ,,,Nah.........gona find game worth investing.. Just to let you know that those who going for damage just want gold...free gold...and i think you cant live from that....but it is nice to be good...and you pixonic are very good ...but you forgat about yourself;) see you,,was amazing game...gona leave with broken heart but still...bya..bya Lots of frustration with recent changes have some people feeling this way, I know my clan took a hit once it went live on Android. I rage quit for a week but found my way back. My game play took a down turn due to the frustration but there really is no other real option other then to make the best of it. I have totally changed my game play style and it has kept me going and I have even found a new way to enjoy the game. Hang in there, maybe take a small break and come back after the itch starts in again.
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Post by diabolique on Mar 2, 2017 13:35:48 GMT -5
I also feel that the point system is abit extreme. -20 on losing team is crazy considering you get 3 to 13 points for winning. Adjustments needs to be made. An example of this could look like this.... Winning team gets 10 points for top spot and 4 points for last place on winning team. Losing team may look like this....Top spot gets 5 , second place 4 and 3,4 and 5 should get - 3 , - 4 AND - 5. JUST A suggestion. Thanks
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nettrick
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Post by nettrick on Mar 2, 2017 14:01:06 GMT -5
yes,,maybe i go little harsh with the guy with the song...it is cool song btw;) And i was thinking that this is General Discussion so we could talk about game and what we like and do not like but for some is just a joke i see. I relly love this game,,got me hook up first time i play and hurt me to go from tactical game in just one big mess....and was hoping to see if im the only one who see that new system leauge is ruinning the game......just grownup Discussion.....so kids please just go around this theme....thank you......... Yes the game has changed and will continue to change. I still like the old version better but I don't control that decision. The game play and premise is still there....it is just hyper competitive for me now so the desire for casual gaming is lost....I play a lot less because I can't do mindless gaming, but the graphics and fun of running bots is still there. so if you want to discuss it, saying you are leaving is a not a discussion, it is a declaration. Saying you are on the fence about leaving and looking for reasons to stay or go prompts discussion....as others have said, saying you are leaving and then sticking around means you have no idea of what you are really doing so why bother discussing it with you. Me leaving the game and being dramatic is because i take everything with great passion...cause i like to progress-------that is the way i live. And you dont need to disscus only with me,,i just open thred to show the possible problem of ruinning game....so why some people get catch what is not the pioint here.........i having pause from game but why i cant stick around the forum and see if any changes are possible ....maybe something happen if people who have problem with this system come out of dark and support new changes.....can you think in that direction.................focus on problem who bother a lot of people....why focusing on me...relly cant get that....sorry I like idea what was suggested here in this thread.....That loosing team dont get any points..so beacons will start to be important again...problem solve...what you think about that....and the those who catch beacons get more contributions points in winning team........when you wage damage and beacons....it must be the same?
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 2, 2017 14:09:48 GMT -5
If I'm going for damage, I avoid beacons. But if it's a close match or we're losing the beacon battle, I'll drop into a light bot and start capping them. If I can tell we are going to mech the other team for sure, I'll purposefully walk around a red beacon so that the game doesn't end quicker.
There's a difference between doing that when you're winning and doing it when you're losing though.
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 14:16:58 GMT -5
If I'm going for damage, I avoid beacons. But if it's a close match or we're losing the beacon battle, I'll drop into a light bot and start capping them. If I can tell we are going to mech the other team for sure, I'll purposefully walk around a red beacon so that the game doesn't end quicker. There's a difference between doing that when you're winning and doing it when you're losing though. I've seen too many matches turn in the final minutes to be purposely avoiding beacons.
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nettrick
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Post by nettrick on Mar 2, 2017 14:17:21 GMT -5
If I'm going for damage, I avoid beacons. But if it's a close match or we're losing the beacon battle, I'll drop into a light bot and start capping them. If I can tell we are going to mech the other team for sure, I'll purposefully walk around a red beacon so that the game doesn't end quicker. There's a difference between doing that when you're winning and doing it when you're losing though. yes..but you still looking will you win or loose...but lots of guys dont care if they will win or loose,,just want to secure first 3 places to not loose points....big differnet in way of looking .......you like to win and you will switch to light bot ,,but lots of them will just hurry up to make more damage even if there is possibilty with changing bots and getting beacons they can still win the game.........
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Post by mijapi300 on Mar 2, 2017 14:23:14 GMT -5
If I'm going for damage, I avoid beacons. But if it's a close match or we're losing the beacon battle, I'll drop into a light bot and start capping them. If I can tell we are going to mech the other team for sure, I'll purposefully walk around a red beacon so that the game doesn't end quicker. There's a difference between doing that when you're winning and doing it when you're losing though. I've seen too many matches turn in the final minutes to be purposely avoiding beacons. I really only do it if we have their spawn surrounded and there aren't any reds outside of it.
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 2, 2017 16:19:32 GMT -5
Can I get 5000 likes too if I throw in the towel dramatically?
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Post by whatttupG on Mar 2, 2017 16:39:35 GMT -5
So..it is like this ,,,to exsplain my self a bit. I am team player..love tactic and strategy play...love to catch beacons ,,hold them defend them get opponents away from them cause i love them blue;) Cause of this new system league counting points i get no points and im a valuble player in team....my score is often that damage dont go over 300k(it cant go cause i holding beacons)i get ,4 or 5 kills and 4 beacons in average...................and when we win i get 3 points and when we loose i get -15 ponst....so you see where i going with this...no point to play strategic game. Now is just mess in gameplay,,,guys dont care about beacons ,,just passing next to them( i saw it many times)and go for damage to be in top 3 rank when match is over,,no matter if they win or loose for them is important to be in first 3 to secure points. From amazing tactical game you made a mess...you bring savages ............ I invest money in this game and i would invest more but ,,,Nah.........gona find game worth investing.. Just to let you know that those who going for damage just want gold...free gold...and i think you cant live from that....but it is nice to be good...and you pixonic are very good ...but you forgat about yourself;) see you,,was amazing game...gona leave with broken heart but still...bya..bya Gotta agree with this finding. I too try to be team first and that is now a very punishing stance. If you just call the win or lose world a 50/50 deal, you see this point even clearer. Last place on the winning team gets like +2, last place if losing is -20. Your numbers look like 5th place I think, but I'm going off memory from a coffee shop while on my phone. I could be off, but +3 and -15 are pretty much the same thing. Team play is penalized now and it's worse than the already sacrificial stance that had already given up the gold to others. Now not only are you very unlikely to get gold, odds are horrible that you'll get anywhere in a league. If you are a team guy, support instead of Rambo and take the cards as they lay, at +2 vs .20 you'd need to win 10 games to 1 just to break even. Hmm.. no wonder my "rating" doesn't move now.
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nettrick
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Post by nettrick on Mar 2, 2017 16:55:29 GMT -5
Can I get 5000 likes too if I throw in the towel dramatically? if you have secret pervension and you get turn on by likes ,,why not,,i will throw one to make your day bro...i would give you 1000 likes if i can just to myke you happy........i just "like" your new "another" meanningles post you put here....if you put some more i will "like" it also,,is it a deel?
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Post by sochilli (Saltesers) on Mar 2, 2017 16:59:35 GMT -5
Hah.
I can tell by how much you're triggered by me that you only made this thread for pity. The fact that I'm not giving you any makes you mad.
Well, take your pity as it comes.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 2, 2017 17:27:39 GMT -5
There are better ways to make a point than to insist dramatically that you're leaving, when you have no intention of doing so. Please forgive my skepticism but I've seen similar behavior in other forums too often to continue indulging it on my own part. If your main evidence that changes were bad is your own impending departure, the least you can do is live up to the promise. Otherwise you're just being dishonest, or perhaps (in the most charitable interpretation possible) disingenuous. No matter how you cut it, his point (that he is leaving) is completely invalid unless and until he actually leaves. Perhaps he was looking for some validation. Scarce on delivery with some of the pricks you find these days. I mean, it's not like he doesn't have a valid point or 2. Jesus, I can't believe these forums sometimes.
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 2, 2017 17:31:41 GMT -5
Can I get 5000 likes too if I throw in the towel dramatically? I find it very telling, who you are and what kind of person you are trying to be, that you could possibly find anything "dramatic" in a post. No voice, no invective, just someone feeling frustrated with the game. And you decide to mock him? Maybe you should take your jerk attitude somewhere more fitting with your venomous personality.
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tagnal
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Post by tagnal on Mar 2, 2017 17:45:06 GMT -5
Just ignore league points. It isn't a big deal. Every league season you will get free gold from being placed in a league. After that, just play and have fun.
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Post by waninggibbous on Mar 2, 2017 17:57:05 GMT -5
I haven't seen many "this is why I'm leaving" posts since my MMO days. Back then I would have been like... Why waste our time by posting this, just go already. (and, wait for it... Here it comes... Can I have your stuff?)
But nettrick struck a chord with me. He's right. I've been frustrated with the game for a while now. Im running all light bots in Private League still battling heavy bots. I get around 100,000 damage a game.
Would I prefer to battle bots only in my "league"? Yes of course. It's too early to jump ship. Hang in there its going to get better... I hope.
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Post by ou812gr8m8 on Mar 2, 2017 17:57:48 GMT -5
Just ignore league points. It isn't a big deal. Every league season you will get free gold from being placed in a league. After that, just play and have fun. I'm not sure that's true, unless you place higher than before. I placed in S3 first time and S3 second time, but only got gold the first time. It seems to be a ladder where going up via the "challenge" at the top of a league, or placing higher monthly, gets you a one-time gold boost.
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Post by Thumpmonkey1 on Mar 2, 2017 17:57:51 GMT -5
How this thread has lasted this long without being moved to the rants board I will never know...
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Post by tagnal on Mar 2, 2017 18:03:09 GMT -5
Just ignore league points. It isn't a big deal. Every league season you will get free gold from being placed in a league. After that, just play and have fun. I'm not sure that's true, unless you place higher than before. I placed in S3 first time and S3 second time, but only got gold the first time. It seems to be a ladder where going up via the "challenge" at the top of a league, or placing higher monthly, gets you a one-time gold boost. How could you have been placed in S3 a second time if we are still in the first league season? A season lasts 30 or 31 days. Yes, you can only get the reward for advancing into a certain league once per season.
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tagnal
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Post by tagnal on Mar 2, 2017 18:05:19 GMT -5
So once you've made it as high as you are going to get for a given season, you've earned all the gold you are going to get, so just play and have fun and ignore your ranking until the start of the next season.
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nettrick
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Post by nettrick on Mar 2, 2017 18:37:05 GMT -5
So once you've made it as high as you are going to get for a given season, you've earned all the gold you are going to get, so just play and have fun and ignore your ranking until the start of the next season. Lets forget about points and gold for a moment,,leave that a side...what relly got me frustrated is that old good gameplay is gone...nobody anymore going for strategy and tactic,,helping eachother to get the beacon..........now is just who gona get first to other bot so it can make damage,,,guys just getting Grifins and flaying and striking and then take another one and again and again................i love rankings cause i am competitive pearson but would trade all points and ranking for old gameplay...it was so neet;)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 19:43:39 GMT -5
Um,....huh?
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Post by Thunderkiss on Mar 2, 2017 19:55:16 GMT -5
Don't be deliberately obtuse. This is thinly veiled ad hominem. You know exactly what he's saying. Grow up.
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Post by ewing411 on Mar 2, 2017 19:58:27 GMT -5
PS: I guess this thread is not a general one but more in rants direction... The only reason to put this thread in the rants section is to burry the valid point about game play and over importance of the top 3 placement. Today MM finally rolled me good and I got a -20 on the score. A couple more of those and even I'll be forced to consider alternative play styles just to regain some kind of control now that this new game stat is thrust out there. Up until now it was nice since KDR or W/L didn't feel of any importance. But the league points do.
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Post by ewing411 on Mar 2, 2017 20:05:56 GMT -5
Just ignore league points. It isn't a big deal. Every league season you will get free gold from being placed in a league. After that, just play and have fun. That's a healthy mental attitude. The gold infusion was just phenomenal. Most of us need to send Pixonic a thank you card.
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Post by SGT D00M! on Mar 2, 2017 20:21:22 GMT -5
OK, so on the old MM, Au was based on....... damage(and winning). So with the the new MM, Au is based mostly on Damage (and some on winning). So the huge big change that Pixo has done to TOTALLY RUIN THE GAME AND FORCE EVERYONE TO QUIT...is errr...ummm...what exactly again?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 20:34:25 GMT -5
Don't be deliberately obtuse. This is thinly veiled ad hominem. You know exactly what he's saying. Grow up. You clearly have no clue regarding what I am saying or why. If I have to explain it you just wouldn't get it. Whiskey tango foxtrot!
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