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Post by wildboar on Mar 2, 2017 8:14:40 GMT -5
As per the title
I see Griff Tulum /Pin ... (RDB?) 500m Range rockets ... but is it a good build for a Galahad?
Most talk seems to be Plasmahad - Taran/Mags
I have a Lvl 1 Galahad that still smells showroom fresh but have another upgrade running so can't boost it ... was just wondering what to stick on it while it is a little squishy & slow ..
I have a lvl 8 ork and 2 mags in the short term...
otherwise I will have to re-jig all bots & weapons to give it a plasma load out
I have 2 tarans(8) on a plasma griff (8) with 2 mags(8) - nice level build
Au/WSP weps available ...
2 Orkans
2 tarans
2 hydras
2 tridents
several mags (7 I think)
Gecko (oops - early purchase)
plus the various Tulumbas /Pinatas/pins / spirals
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Post by K A Z on Mar 2, 2017 8:18:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 8:18:32 GMT -5
No, you are making the Galahad's ability useless if you put midrange on it. You may as well use a Pin Patton for better DPS. Do not use it when it is squishy and slow, only use it after you level it to 6.
And the Plasma Galahad should replace your Plasma Griffin. Plasma is one of the worst sets you can put on the Griffin.
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Post by wildboar on Mar 2, 2017 8:39:40 GMT -5
My poor Plasma Griff ... has just gone off sulking ... he thought he was pretty cool... What would you put on the griff ? Orkans/Aphids? - forgot to mention I had 2 aphids in my list  No Tulum /pin for the Galahad [roger] ... maybe have to pinch a taran from the Griff while it is getting an oil change |
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Post by Blurred Vision on Mar 2, 2017 8:45:06 GMT -5
Plasmahad is a great setup; I run two in my hangar. For the Griff, I've tried RDB (CRV Pins + Tulumbas), DB (Orkans + Pinatas), and Stuka or ADB (Orkans + Aphids). I also tried Plasma but as others have noted, Griff is not the best platform for Mags & Tarans.
After lots of experimentation, the RDB and Stuka work best for me.
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Post by K A Z on Mar 2, 2017 8:48:03 GMT -5
My poor Plasma Griff ... has just gone off sulking ... he thought he was pretty cool... What would you put on the griff ? Orkans/Aphids? - forgot to mention I had 2 aphids in my list No Tulum /pin for the Galahad [roger] ... maybe have to pinch a taran from the Griff while it is getting an oil change I'm running 3 Grifs at the moment and it's difficult to choose one as they serve different purposes: - PDB (TaranMag) - lots of firepower, good on bubbles, but no good against shielded opponents. Short life span. - DB (AphidOrk) - a new purchase - brutal on shielded bots, not so good on bubbles. Medium life span. - RDB (TuluPin) - oldest one in the line-up, a good all-rounder and ambusher; output is so-so but with careful play can cumulate a lot of damage. Medium to long lifespan. - Gunner (Molots) - not in use atm, quite surprising sometimes, feels like lacking a punch but can sometimes survive entire match collecting over 400k dmg at Molots on L6. Does not attract too much attention. Long lifespan...unless you make a mistake or have bad luck. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 8:57:42 GMT -5
My poor Plasma Griff ... has just gone off sulking ... he thought he was pretty cool... What would you put on the griff ? Orkans/Aphids? - forgot to mention I had 2 aphids in my list No Tulum /pin for the Galahad [roger] ... maybe have to pinch a taran from the Griff while it is getting an oil change Tulumbas Pin. Orkan Pinata / Aphid Taran Aphid Plasma Griffins were the coolest thing in the world in silver of the old MM. |
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Post by wildboar on Mar 2, 2017 9:09:28 GMT -5
Bugger ... my Griff was cool(ish) ... but not longer is ... just looking to see if I can get a 'dad jumper' paint job for him
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Post by [apotheosis] on Mar 2, 2017 9:17:44 GMT -5
Galahad really excels sporting plasma. There is a reason its what everyone recomends. The right hand smack loadout is really fun to play, but isnt as effective.
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Post by sonofsam on Mar 2, 2017 9:45:38 GMT -5
The RDB setup has several flaws on Galahad
1) the shied is there to protect you from plasma. Going midrange generally attracts attention from other mid/long bots. The two most common weapons you will face are Trident and Trebuchet both will ignore your shield.
2) You just lack the punch of a RDB Griffin the extra Tolumbus adds 50% more firepower 24 vs Galahad's 16.
3) The RDB Griffin can jump to shoot over an obstacle or hill you don't get this with Galahad.
The biggest reasons are 1&2 especially 2
BTW right hand smack is a setup I'm not familiar with what is it?
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Post by wildboar on Mar 2, 2017 9:49:08 GMT -5
I've just asked for it to be added to the glossary
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Post by K A Z on Mar 2, 2017 10:18:48 GMT -5
The RDB setup has several flaws on Galahad 1) the shied is there to protect you from plasma. Going midrange generally attracts attention from other mid/long bots. The two most common weapons you will face are Trident and Trebuchet both will ignore your shield. 2) You just lack the punch of a RDB Griffin the extra Tolumbus adds 50% more firepower 24 vs Galahad's 16. 3) The RDB Griffin can jump to shoot over an obstacle or hill you don't get this with Galahad. The biggest reasons are 1&2 especially 2 BTW right hand smack is a setup I'm not familiar with what is it? A minor correction  Ad 1 - I guess you meant Trident and other RDB setups not treb, as this one is being nicely blocked by shield I'm using RDB Grif, and the aspect No3 of your list (jump) is imo the key one; you can play peek-a-boo with each jump while some awareness may keep you safe at the time of jump; a big deal for the Grif survivability. |
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Post by wildboar on Mar 2, 2017 10:58:27 GMT -5
Right ... played musical chairs with the weps at my disposal Now have Gepard (5) - tri-mags (7-8-7) - kept in reserve for emergency beacon running - very squishy - maybe I should stick spirals on it and stay 600m away Griff (8) with Aphid/Orkan (all 8) - liking this already Boa (8) Thunder/Taran (8/8) - old favourite Carnage (4) - Tridents (6/7) - still haven't learned to stay out of the melee with this one , DOH! Galahad (1) - Taran/Mags (all 8) - can feel the potential - just a bit squishy priority after current upgrade (trident to 7) finishes in 12hours  is Galahad - concentrate on getting him to 8 ... maybe bring carnage in parallel |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Mar 2, 2017 11:08:28 GMT -5
Heh, methinks this thread is a little more in-depth than those others, but I would ask for a merger as all three have excellent points. The Meta-build of a Galahad is the Plasmahad, hands down. This is why few bother with a Plasma Griff, it's lack of a shield puts it at a huge disadvantage. For every 'meta', there is a counter-strategy, like a reflected echo, or an anti-meta if you will. If you pilot a Galahad, your biggest threat will be fighting another one, so what are the best strategies to counter the Plasmahad? So I'm stupid, I sometimes like to swim upstream... I just (finally) bought a Galahad on my iOS account. To kit it out, I made a 'fraken-build' out of my Griffin. ATM: L5 Gally w/ L9 Taran & 2xL7 Aphids; L8 Griff w/ 2xL8 Orkans & L9 Magnums. ( Yeah, guess what I'm upgrading) By now I'm sure some pilots are snickering at me, but meet me on the field of battle... I dunno what to call her load-out, but my Gally eats Plasmahads, and is a significant threat to anything with a shield, bubble or not. My Griffin, in turn, is doing fine in it's ambusher role, but now it stings more through the bubble shields that the Orkans can't penetrate well. On my Android account, I've lost my mind. I bought a Lancelot. I have too many long range weapons. I'm getting 'creative' in my builds. ATM: L10 Gally w/ L9 Punisher Mk2 & 2xL10 Pins; L8 Lancelot w/ 2xL9 Orkans & L8 Zeus or Trident (can't make up my mind). This Gally is my counter to the meta-builds of Ancilots (and anything else with a bubble shield). The Lance does well with holding beacons or kiting the enemies in a close-range assault role. My beloved, painted L8 Griffin, however, has resorted to Plasma... and it's now a worse glass cannon than my L10 Thunder-Carny. More shuffling to do. Added: I'm going to be buying/upgrading a pair of Aphids for my Android account now that I saved up the impossible for a Lance, they are quite useful. I have no idea what to get next for either account though, hence my interest in the thread. Anyways, to nod to the OP, don't be too afraid to think outside of the Meta box |
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Post by cypho on Mar 2, 2017 11:09:05 GMT -5
Right ... played musical chairs with the weps at my disposal Now have Gepard (5) - tri-mags (7-8-7) - kept in reserve for emergency beacon running - very squishy - maybe I should stick spirals on it and stay 600m away Griff (8) with Aphid/Orkan (all 8) - liking this already Boa (8) Thunder/Taran (8/8) - old favourite Carnage (4) - Tridents (6/7) - still haven't learned to stay out of the melee with this one , DOH! Galahad (1) - Taran/Mags (all 8) - can feel the potential - just a bit squishy priority after current upgrade (trident to 7) finishes in 12hours is Galahad - concentrate on getting him to 8 ... maybe bring carnage in parallel Nice line up. You've had good advice from the others on here. Eventually you'll find that you have to drop the Gep and then the Boa but the other three should serve you well for quite a while. |
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Post by Blurred Vision on Mar 2, 2017 11:14:12 GMT -5
I ran a 9/10 Right Hand Smack Galahad (Orkan + Pinatas), and while it's obviously great vs. other Brit Bots, it has -50m range on the Plasmahad, and the Pinatas reload time is a detractor too. It's fun as a change-of-pace, and I swap to rockets for practice & to stay sharp, but for regular play I'm finding two Plasmahads to be more effective.
BTW, Galahads don't really become effective until L7. Carnage needs to be 9 or higher. Just my $0.02.
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 2, 2017 11:26:29 GMT -5
No, you are making the Galahad's ability useless if you put midrange on it. You may as well use a Pin Patton for better DPS. Do not use it when it is squishy and slow, only use it after you level it to 6. And the Plasma Galahad should replace your Plasma Griffin. Plasma is one of the worst sets you can put on the Griffin. Say what? Plasma Grif's will eat a Carnage as a snack...and there are a lot of those tasty treats out there. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2017 11:28:10 GMT -5
No, you are making the Galahad's ability useless if you put midrange on it. You may as well use a Pin Patton for better DPS. Do not use it when it is squishy and slow, only use it after you level it to 6. And the Plasma Galahad should replace your Plasma Griffin. Plasma is one of the worst sets you can put on the Griffin. Say what? Plasma Grif's will eat a Carnage as a snack...and there are a lot of those tasty treats out there. Most Carnages are in tridents. Good luck getting close to one of those. Plasma Griffin is not a really good bot once the Galahads take over. |
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Post by ł⸰§ĦȺĐ◎ŴƧŦḀɌ on Mar 2, 2017 11:32:02 GMT -5
No, you are making the Galahad's ability useless if you put midrange on it. You may as well use a Pin Patton for better DPS. Do not use it when it is squishy and slow, only use it after you level it to 6. And the Plasma Galahad should replace your Plasma Griffin. Plasma is one of the worst sets you can put on the Griffin. Say what? Plasma Grif's will eat a Carnage as a snack...and there are a lot of those tasty treats out there. I disagree in part, especially if I can get the drop on one in close range (<200m) and have both Thunders fully loaded on my Carny. A Zeus Carny is a pretty good counter to a Plasma Griff as well. I mean, PDB Griffs aren't useless, don't get me wrong, just a little outmoded by some of the new meta-builds. |
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Post by wildboar on Mar 2, 2017 11:47:25 GMT -5
Thanks fellas ... some painful upgrade wait times ahead The Gep is there because in the early days I was constantly being seal clubbed by the f***ers  ( i bought 2 ) - reluctant to let it go because of its speed I'm sure I'll find something to replace it |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 2, 2017 12:02:32 GMT -5
Galahad really excels sporting plasma. There is a reason its what everyone recomends. The right hand smack loadout is really fun to play, but isnt as effective. You can't play both setups the same way. Plasmahad excel at what it does but dies quicker because it is out in the open more. I wouldn't say one is better than the other, I actually prefer the RHS Galahad and Plasma on Gareth. |
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 2, 2017 12:35:43 GMT -5
Say what? Plasma Grif's will eat a Carnage as a snack...and there are a lot of those tasty treats out there. I disagree in part, especially if I can get the drop on one in close range (<200m) and have both Thunders fully loaded on my Carny. A Zeus Carny is a pretty good counter to a Plasma Griff as well. I mean, PDB Griffs aren't useless, don't get me wrong, just a little outmoded by some of the new meta-builds. Key word being, "if". I know it happens, but I've shredded more than got me. 350m away a Carnage ain't gonna make it. |
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Post by amoebastudios on Mar 2, 2017 13:55:51 GMT -5
I'm seeing a ton of mid-range splash in diamond it's not even funny. RDB grifs, trident carnage, Tulus everywhere.
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Post by moody on Mar 2, 2017 20:03:04 GMT -5
While not ideal, Based on a suggestion I have used Orkan / Pins on Galahad. Good for harassing and can hold their own if charged.
I have however gone back to full plasma - but with no other option it's ok.
Other option would be punisher / orkan or punisher / punisher T
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is Galahad - concentrate on getting him to 8 ... maybe bring carnage in parallel
( i bought 2 
