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Post by Humunculus on Mar 1, 2017 8:48:44 GMT -5
So after 3 weeks of playing I have some random Noob observations...
1. I should have looked for a guide or something similar in the threads. See below...
2. I figured that whats gold used for but to speed up the upgrades. I wasted a lot because I was impatient and my bots sucked.
3. Those little stealth bots can be pretty effective. I've been bothered by them, and have seen them go around making life miserable for other players.
4. Plasma weapons can hurt.
5. Walking into a Orkan salvo can hurt too.
6. I dont like yamantua (spelling). I'm not good enough for that level and I dont have any distance weapons. I
7. Too many players wanna be Rambo and jump into a spot with 4 other bots. Of course they die and then leave the battle making it hard on the rest of us. Maybe a good bot but bad skills.
8. I dont like tankers.
9. I'm learning beacon control. I have lost too many times because we are down 3-2 and everyone is all about the kills and damage. Then they get too aggressive and we end up dead any way.
10. Players that can work as a team dominate a group of solo players just running around thinking they can 1 shot everyone.
11. I have a Leo, it is a tank, can do some damage, but is pretty slow. I hope it get batter when I can afford better weapons and upgrades.
12. I'm working on a RDB and its pretty good for me, as a beginner.
13. I started with a spiral patton thinking I could just be a wuss and sit back and hit the red button every once in a while. Its not longer in my hangar...
14. As nice as it is to finally afford a better weapon, being a better player is a must. See #3 on that one...
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 1, 2017 8:51:59 GMT -5
Nice to see you picking up these little things, if you need any help with anything don't be afraid to ask  |
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Mar 1, 2017 8:54:07 GMT -5
A screenshot of your hangar would be nice.
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Post by Humunculus on Mar 1, 2017 8:54:54 GMT -5
Thanks! I have asked some Q's and the ppl on the forum have been very helpful.
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Post by B30RLL on Mar 1, 2017 8:58:46 GMT -5
13. I started with a spiral patton thinking I could just be a wuss and sit back and hit the red button every once in a while. Its not longer in my hangar... I like this guy You'd be surprised how many supposedly 'advanced' players still do this (...and then they get their hands on hydras...) |
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Post by Humunculus on Mar 1, 2017 9:01:10 GMT -5
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Mar 1, 2017 9:02:42 GMT -5
Looks good to me. But the lvl9 griff could make you some trouble.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 9:04:39 GMT -5
You should put pinatas on that Leo
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Post by Humunculus on Mar 1, 2017 9:08:21 GMT -5
I leveled up the Griff right away. And then I saw that ppl were saying try to keep weapons 2 levels above your bot level.
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Post by Humunculus on Mar 1, 2017 9:09:36 GMT -5
I looked at pinatas and they a ranged at 300. The Pins and Thunder are all 500. Is it better to run the Pinatas with the Thunder?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 9:09:49 GMT -5
No, weapons 1 level above your bot. That was pre-matchmaking.
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Mar 1, 2017 9:10:57 GMT -5
I leveled up the Griff right away. And then I saw that ppl were saying try to keep weapons 2 levels above your bot level. That was with the old MM. Nowadays, keep bots and weapons equally leveled. |
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Post by Vindictive999 on Mar 1, 2017 9:11:26 GMT -5
Effective range of a thunder is 200m and under...
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Mar 1, 2017 9:12:41 GMT -5
I looked at pinatas and they a ranged at 300. The Pins and Thunder are all 500. Is it better to run the Pinatas with the Thunder? Thunder is like a shotgun. At 500m it only tickles. Best used <150m. |
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Post by Humunculus on Mar 1, 2017 9:13:28 GMT -5
Ok guys, good info. Just put Pinatas on the Leo. Thx for all the good advice. I am still waiting on my weapons to level. It takes so long....
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Post by CΛΜΡΞΓ™ on Mar 1, 2017 9:14:41 GMT -5
Ok guys, good info. Just put Pinatas on the Leo. Thx for all the good advice. I am still waiting on my weapons to level. It takes so long.... wait till the 10+ Upgrades  |
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Post by nocluevok on Mar 1, 2017 9:22:08 GMT -5
You should put pinatas on that Leo Maybe he likes midrange. Either way, get those puppies level up a bit... till the red bot goes, *poof* when ya shoot em. "We are the knights who say, "poof." ? |
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Post by Humunculus on Mar 1, 2017 9:51:50 GMT -5
For the Leo, I saw a thread that said a thunder and 3 magnums are really good. I like the idea of not having to wait for the Pinatas reload and then trying to avoid other bots with a slow Leo. Anyone have experience with both builds, and if so, whats your take on each?
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Post by [AurN]Zenotaph on Mar 1, 2017 9:56:18 GMT -5
I use one with a Thunder and Pinatas. Nice for ambush. Strafe around a corner,
blast your target with the first volley more than half to death.
Then mop up the rest with the Thunder. Easy kill...
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 1, 2017 10:10:59 GMT -5
I looked at pinatas and they a ranged at 300. The Pins and Thunder are all 500. Is it better to run the Pinatas with the Thunder? The Thunder is only "Technically" 500m range. Any thing over 200M and the damage falls sharply. Thunders are a shotgun type weapon so the larger your target and the closer you are the more damage you will do. Try Pinatas and a Thunder on your Leo but try to avoid engaging until you are as close as possible, you will be amazed how fast you can drop someone at under 150M with a thunder. The following videos show the Thunder being used effectivly at around the level your at now. You will be slower in the Leo compared to a Shultz, Vityaz or Boa but the principle is the same. Utilize cover to close range and don't fire till you see the whites of there eyes. Thunder shultz at the end of this one Thunder Pinata Vityaz & Boa/punisher - get close and wreck steel If you find you like knife fighting with Thunders you will enjoy a dual Thunder Carnage when your ready. Takes more finesse then other close range fighters but well worth it. |
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Post by shaolinrogue on Mar 1, 2017 10:14:09 GMT -5
LOL, in the amount of time I wrote that reply a lanslide of people brought up the effective range on the Thunder ha! One thing to add when corner fighting, try to force your oponent into a position that will favour your right (double light) side.
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Post by gr3ygh05t on Mar 1, 2017 11:06:18 GMT -5
So after 3 weeks of playing I have some random Noob observations... 1. I should have looked for a guide or something similar in the threads. See below... 7. Too many players wanna be Rambo and jump into a spot with 4 other bots. Of course they die and then leave the battle making it hard on the rest of us. Maybe a good bot but bad skills. 8. I dont like tankers. For no. 1 - I blame Pix. Nowhere during the tutorial did they mention anything regarding beacons and how they worked. I had to lose a few matches to figure that out.
For 7 and 8 - That's Pix's fault too. Damage is over emphasized over group tactics. Tanking, while discouraged and harder with leagues, is also being done because of damage based MM.
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Post by zer00eyz on Mar 1, 2017 11:24:20 GMT -5
Dont knock the spiral Patton. With all the cossacks running around the map of late, it can make short work of them. Aphid Pattons can be a big threat depending on map and spawn.
I find the PIN Leo surprisingly effective, you can soften up some targets on the way in rather than have to close with them. Plasmagrifs, Natasha's and anything hiding under cover (splash damage for the win) is going to take some softening up for your thunder.
Don't be afraid of leveling up that thunder either, it will have a life in the future on a carnage!
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Post by [NovR]101Rangers on Mar 1, 2017 11:50:22 GMT -5
Not an expert, but I run 2 Leos as my bread and butter. One armed with Thunder/Pins as mid-ranger (aka troublemaker) and another Thunder/Magnums as KF. Different range for each. The mid-ranger has a Thunder in case someone gets too close...make them pay before I go down  am contemplating a Trident though. |
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Post by ⓣⓡⓘⓒⓚⓨ48 on Mar 1, 2017 12:08:08 GMT -5
Not an expert, but I run 2 Leos as my bread and butter. One armed with Thunder/Pins as mid-ranger (aka troublemaker) and another Thunder/Magnums as KF. Different range for each. The mid-ranger has a Thunder in case someone gets too close...make them pay before I go down am contemplating a Trident though. Even though Trident compliments the Pins Splash, consider the Zeus, if you already have one and not a Trident yet. Still 600m range. The 5 sec reload and no-miss mechanics make it a good Mid-Range weapon. If you are hitting physical shields it is a pain, but you can keep hitting them with the PINS too, which not only does splash damage to the bot, but to the shield also. Zeus+Pins hammering away at a shield will knock it down in a decent amount of time (assuming everything is at similar levels). Also, with the amount of Anciles out there now, the Zeus is a definite plus. Last reason, for close in fighting the Zeus does better against non-shielded bots or flanked shielded bots. Again, 5 sec reload compared to total Trident cycle time of 10 secs. Trident is still good, though, so either one will do you right, but just pointing out that both weapons can be used effectively for the Leo with PINS. Good Luck! |
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Post by blastronaut on Mar 1, 2017 12:26:14 GMT -5
Looks good to me. But the lvl9 griff could make you some trouble. Nah, with the new/current matchmaker bot level doesn't matter. |
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Post by Giant's Toe on Mar 1, 2017 12:36:04 GMT -5
For the Leo, I saw a thread that said a thunder and 3 magnums are really good. I like the idea of not having to wait for the Pinatas reload and then trying to avoid other bots with a slow Leo. Anyone have experience with both builds, and if so, whats your take on each? Try a thunder, 2mags and a pinata. anciles seems to be the craze from my tier. |
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Post by cakeordeath on Mar 1, 2017 15:01:01 GMT -5
I looked at pinatas and they a ranged at 300. The Pins and Thunder are all 500. Is it better to run the Pinatas with the Thunder? The Thunder is only "Technically" 500m range. Any thing over 200M and the damage falls sharply. Thunders are a shotgun type weapon so the larger your target and the closer you are the more damage you will do. Try Pinatas and a Thunder on your Leo but try to avoid engaging until you are as close as possible, you will be amazed how fast you can drop someone at under 150M with a thunder. The following videos show the Thunder being used effectivly at around the level your at now. You will be slower in the Leo compared to a Shultz, Vityaz or Boa but the principle is the same. Utilize cover to close range and don't fire till you see the whites of there eyes. Thunder shultz at the end of this one Thunder Pinata Vityaz & Boa/punisher - get close and wreck steel If you find you like knife fighting with Thunders you will enjoy a dual Thunder Carnage when your ready. Takes more finesse then other close range fighters but well worth it. Nicely done videos for new players! I'll be pointing any of my friends who try the game out in your channel's direction. |
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Post by ashanbhatoa on Mar 1, 2017 15:29:41 GMT -5
It's good that your making observations. Continue making these observations. It's important for a player to perform that.
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Post by ashanbhatoa on Mar 1, 2017 15:30:12 GMT -5
I use one with a Thunder and Pinatas. Nice for ambush. Strafe around a corner, blast your target with the first volley more than half to death. Then mop up the rest with the Thunder. Easy kill... Yep is a good tactic. |
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